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Camquin ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 12080 |
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The 'owd tin cup is older than anything Rugby League organises. The first three winners all joined the Northern Union. Bradford now play Soccer. Thornes is apparently defunct. The first extant union club to win was Otley. In its early days, it drew larger crowds than the FA Cup.
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islander ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 17 Mar 2010 Location: jersey Status: Offline Points: 7954 |
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formal deadline for what?!
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Rothman2 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Rotherham Joined: 20 Jan 2010 Location: Location Status: Offline Points: 12586 |
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The Blues ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Status: Offline Points: 5224 |
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Bedford Blues have been drawn alongside Ampthill, Bath and Bristol Bears in Pool 4 of the revamped 2024/25 Premiership Rugby Cup.
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castleparknight ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Jun 2012 Location: Doncaster Status: Offline Points: 3075 |
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Doncaster have Sale, Newcastle and Caldy
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Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Bombay Duck ![]() First XV squad ![]() Joined: 24 Feb 2011 Status: Offline Points: 45 |
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Pirates have Exeter, Gloucester and Hartpury
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maire23 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Apr 2019 Location: Nottingham Status: Offline Points: 349 |
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Nottingham have Tigers, Northampton and Coventry.
Incredibly excited!!!
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cheshire exile ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Status: Offline Points: 2662 |
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This will be the first time visiting Kingsholm for us. A big day out.
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islander ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 17 Mar 2010 Location: jersey Status: Offline Points: 7954 |
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And finally, a London pool with Quins, Sarries, Ealing & Scottish...
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gerg_861 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jun 2017 Location: Ealing Status: Offline Points: 3028 |
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I like these pools. Fingers crossed that they support some nice gates for the clubs involved. Hope Bath enjoy their trip to Ampthill.
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FHLH ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Cambridge Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Location: Cambridge Status: Online Points: 5641 |
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Statement from Cambridge Chairman
With today’s announcement of this season’s Premiership Cup competition’s groups and fixtures, the RFU have outlined the reasons for the non-invitation and participation of both Cambridge Rugby and Chinnor RFC. An RFU Spokesperson said: “The RFU, Premiership Rugby and Championship Executive worked together on the format for the Premiership Cup for the 2024-25 season. It was agreed that a 20-team competition provided the optimum competition format as the competition evolves this coming season, with discussions on future formats and qualification processes already happening. Last season’s format with 22 teams was felt by the clubs to take place over too many weekends and the bottom two teams did not play any home games against Premiership sides.” Cambridge Rugby chairman Tim Hague had this to say: “We are hugely looking forward to our next Championship season, despite the disappointment over exclusion from the Premiership Rugby Cup. In the face of direct funding cuts from the RFU, PRL have insisted that the Cup competition comprises 10 sides from the Premiership and 10 from the Championship, so two sides have to miss out. This was decided on a ‘seeding’ basis – with ourselves and Chinnor losing out on two home Premiership fixtures and another against a Championship side. “Whilst this is logical, it’s not really ‘fair’. As such we have asked for significant compensation to offset substantial income loss from both missing out on bumper Premiership fixtures and the consequent loss of home gates and hospitality income. The other issue is a 7-weekend hole in our fixture list, which means a lack of continuity and momentum. We are, therefore, working hard on securing fixtures for these dates, and have many irons in the fire. We’ll confirm these soon – and there are some very attractive options. We move on, and we have contingency plans, as this has been a possibility for a while”. |
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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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FHLH ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Cambridge Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Location: Cambridge Status: Online Points: 5641 |
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BBC
Championship clubs' exclusion from cup 'appalling'
Two Championship clubs have said it is "appalling" and "unfair" that they have been excluded from this season's Premiership Rugby Cup. The competition has been rejigged for the 2024-25 season with only 10 of the 12 second-tier sides competing against the 10 Premiership clubs. Cambridge and newly-promoted Chinnor both miss out. All Championship clubs were involved in the competition last season, marking the first time in 18 years that Premiership sides faced lower-tier teams in a cup. "It’s not great to be honest to have the rug pulled out from under you," Chinnor director of rugby Nick Easter told BBC Radio Oxford. A spokesperson for the Rugby Football Union (RFU) told BBC Sport that the format for the Premiership Cup had been agreed by all parties. The pool stages of this season's competition will have five regional groups of four clubs competing against each other home and away across six rounds. The first three rounds, starting on the first weekend of November, take place during the Autumn internationals window, with the final three group matches taking place in February during the Six Nations. The five pool winners and the three best second-placed sides will qualify for the knock-out stages in early March, before the final on the weekend of 15 March. Chinnor, who are based in Thame, Oxfordshire, won promotion last season from National One to the Championship for the first time in their history. "[The cup] was something we were looking forward to last season, we’re very disappointed. I’d say it’s a pretty appalling decision," former England international and Harlequins forward Easter said. "The big issue from my side is trying to arrange games with some big gaps we’ll have from not competing in the competition. We have a period of five and seven weeks where we won't have any games." An RFU spokesperson said: "The RFU, Premiership Rugby and Championship Executive worked together on the format for the Premiership Cup for the 2024-25 season. "It was agreed that a 20-team competition provided the optimum competition format as the competition evolves, with on-going discussions on future formats and qualification processes already happening. "Last season’s format with 22 teams was felt by the clubs to take place over too many weekends and the bottom two teams did not play against Premiership sides." Gloucester won last season's competition, with Championship side Ealing Trailfinders reaching the semi-finals where they were beaten by Leicester Tigers. Edited by FHLH - 20 Aug 2024 at 13:24 |
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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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tulip ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 12 Mar 2012 Location: W Yorks Status: Offline Points: 2238 |
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Who are the Championship Executive who agreed to this format.
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John Butler42 ![]() First XV squad ![]() Joined: 26 Aug 2023 Location: Staffordshire Status: Offline Points: 50 |
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Cambridge have said they are working on fixtures to fill both voids.
First point. Yes it has been said many times, but the basics behind leaving out Cambridge & Chinnor are nothing short of disgraceful. Next point, one can only wish them both good fortune in finding alternatives. I cannot fathom where the fixtures might come from. All of Wales & Scotland are surely already committed. Good luck & fortune to both, sincerely meant & intended. |
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Paul10 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 24 Mar 2023 Location: Milton Keynes Status: Offline Points: 964 |
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The Super Rygbi Cymru and URC teams have similar gaps in their fixtures to Chinnor and Cambridge.
Hopefully a few meaningful friendlies can be put together.
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*Stalwart ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 15 Oct 2022 Location: Penzance Status: Offline Points: 353 |
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Very pleased with Pirates group. As Cheshire says, really looking forward to our visit to Kingsholm.
Still think it's a disgrace that Chinnor and Cambridge have been sidelined.
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Rothman2 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Rotherham Joined: 20 Jan 2010 Location: Location Status: Offline Points: 12586 |
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I did post much earlier and thought better of it but I feel I must agree with you, John Butler and others regarding the Chinnor and Cambridge situation. I can’t believe that the other clubs in the Championship would agree to this. Both clubs have worked very hard to get to this level, and the only way to deal with this is complete solidarity by ALL the clubs in the division. It must be a deal for all or none at all. Most clubs thrive on home games & bar takings to keep going. Yet again clubs seem to have been pacified by the offering of a meaningless cup competition, particularly one which excludes clubs in the same league from being involved in, which for me renders the competition meaningless. Why has this been allowed to happen? It begs the question, why clubs would actually want to be involved in such a shambles? National 1 and the 3 National 2 divisions are the only places to watch credible rugby within a proper structured season, and maybe the Championship clubs should consider getting involved with that instead of trying to jump through hoops to get to a Premiership that is a closed shop in all but name, and which, in my view should have been cut adrift long ago.
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Camquin ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 12080 |
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It is notable that the RFU Statement uses the passive voice, so it never actually says who agreed to what. "Last season’s format with 22 teams was felt by the clubs to take place over too many weekends" - this season's lasts two weeks longer. The phrase "bottom two teams did not play against Premiership sides." seems odd, as I am sure I was at matches at Northampton and Bristol. |
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FHLH ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Cambridge Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Location: Cambridge Status: Online Points: 5641 |
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I mentioned this last week only to be shot down in flames. The fact is that you cannot reach the top without an almost bottomless pit of cash. As a former Treasurer and keen rugby player and supporter with some 60 years experience I can confirm once more that no Committee in their right mind would put their club through the wringer for Premiership rugby. For starters, how many grounds, in reality, in Levels 2-4 could house either 5,000 or 10,000 spectators. For example, Bedford might develop to 10,000 but where do you park (nothing personal) I don't know many grounds but know many who could not. I'll start with DMP - but what is the parking and what secondary income opportunities are there to support a Premiership squad à la Exeter? Ground sharing was once mooted but seems to have fizzled out due to pitch damage. Be honest!
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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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Camquin ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 12080 |
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I seem to recall that had Bedford got planning permission to turn the ground and build in the corners, part of the plan was a car park under the pitch.
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