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Originally posted by Stalwart Stalwart wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

I believe Pirates are streaming all their H games at present...

That's right - and a bargain at £7. If you wait until later, when the game is over, it's only £2 I think.
It's another thing the RFU tried to scupper. The first game was streamed, then they decided to impose some kind of minimum criteria regarding cameras etc. Presumably they backed down as it was reinstated fairly soon and I think only one game was missed as a result. Coverage is very good, although be prepared for a somewhat one-eyed commentary because the commentators are usually players who are injured! That said they do a bleddy good job IMO.
Brilliant and a bargain. Begs the question why don't other clubs do it? There are three cameras recording every match at St Peter and the big screen in the NW corner where I stand streams the game live as I assume TVs do upstairs in the clubhouse for the proper people so they can enjoy the game and still spend money in the bar. Clubs regularly claim they have no money but I would gladly pay to watch streamed games. The radio Jersey/Cornwall coverage on Saturday was probably well supported but punters would surely pay for a live-stream service.

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Live streaming is easy these days you can even do it with a mobile connection.
The main difficulty is combining the Camera feed & commentary and then uploading the data to a host like FB who enable you to monetize it.

If you want action replays you need the software, a competent operator and comms between commentary and operator.

All doable if you have the skills available - and if so, a lot more
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Originally posted by Stalwart Stalwart wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

I believe Pirates are streaming all their H games at present...

That's right - and a bargain at £7. If you wait until later, when the game is over, it's only £2 I think.
It's another thing the RFU tried to scupper. The first game was streamed, then they decided to impose some kind of minimum criteria regarding cameras etc. Presumably they backed down as it was reinstated fairly soon and I think only one game was missed as a result. Coverage is very good, although be prepared for a somewhat one-eyed commentary because the commentators are usually players who are injured! That said they do a bleddy good job IMO.

£7 for a live stream is a pretty good deal I reckon. I might stream the game next Sunday when Donny go there and see what it’s about. I’ve heard a lot of people on RM have done it in the past so I might give it a go. I’m surprised more clubs don’t do it when they probably have the capability to stream live. I guess they want to protect their matchday gates. 
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Home - Jersey Reds
Jersey's website state:
No live streaming available at this time
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But nobody West of the Tamar (apart from Geoff DC) have the requisite technical skills!
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Originally posted by Bombay Duck Bombay Duck wrote:

But nobody West of the Tamar (apart from Geoff DC) have the requisite technical skills!


I don't have the skills, but I know very many West of the Tamar that do have the skills, and who were streaming Pirates Games with a 3 camera set up quite some years ago.

An Example of this is a Highlights Package from Pirates TV from 24/11/2013 - Cornish Pirates 21-15 Bristol 
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Originally posted by Geoff DC Geoff DC wrote:

Originally posted by Bombay Duck Bombay Duck wrote:

But nobody West of the Tamar (apart from Geoff DC) have the requisite technical skills!


I don't have the skills, but I know very many West of the Tamar that do have the skills, and who were streaming Pirates Games with a 3 camera set up quite some years ago.

An Example of this is a Highlights Package from Pirates TV from 24/11/2013 - Cornish Pirates 21-15 Bristol 

Do Ealing or any club other than Pirates stream matches?
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Geoff DC  Only kidding fro a previous comment that reckoned only you had the WoT  IT skillset!
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Try lights of the Knights vs Trailfinders game

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Pity we don't have the full 80 minutes to show as that would show the spirit and determination of the whole squad for the full match.
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Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

Try lights of the Knights vs Trailfinders game

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Pity we don't have the full 80 minutes to show as that would show the spirit and determination of the whole squad for the full match.

Part of me is desperate to write this off as a weather-related aberration, but I'm concerned about the ability of Ealing to create opportunities when they can't just overpower the opposition. Shingler is technically excellent, and rarely makes errors, but he also doesn't create something from nothing. Overall, the team that ran out on Saturday for Ealing was very similar to the one that beat Donny in Ealing in the final game of the season 6 months ago.
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Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

Try lights of the Knights vs Trailfinders game

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Pity we don't have the full 80 minutes to show as that would show the spirit and determination of the whole squad for the full match.

Part of me is desperate to write this off as a weather-related aberration, but I'm concerned about the ability of Ealing to create opportunities when they can't just overpower the opposition. Shingler is technically excellent, and rarely makes errors, but he also doesn't create something from nothing. Overall, the team that ran out on Saturday for Ealing was very similar to the one that beat Donny in Ealing in the final game of the season 6 months ago.

What I found is that Ealing tried to persist with kicking the high ball, even when it came back at them, so they gained no advantage in the first half, in the second half the Knights used grubber and torTomato kicks where necessary. Ealing tried to force play and as such made a lot of handling errors, the knights retained possession and were at times driven back until such time as they could find gaps that they then made the most of. The defence by the knights was solid, to keep the scoreboard to nil for 70 minutes says a lot about that - without analysing the try you got in slow motion I suspect that the guy at the front of the breakaway maul detached from the maul and it could have been construed as truck and trailer (offside) if anyone was there to stop it :-) - it was a lovely little breakthrough to be honest.

The Knights Team that ran out this time was quite different to the one 6 months ago though, as the vast majority of our older seasoned players have gone. These guys are just young, hungry and eager to play - I guess that was what made the difference. I am sure we will face a different challenge when we come to yours in a few months time.....
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Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

Try lights of the Knights vs Trailfinders game

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Pity we don't have the full 80 minutes to show as that would show the spirit and determination of the whole squad for the full match.

Part of me is desperate to write this off as a weather-related aberration, but I'm concerned about the ability of Ealing to create opportunities when they can't just overpower the opposition. Shingler is technically excellent, and rarely makes errors, but he also doesn't create something from nothing. Overall, the team that ran out on Saturday for Ealing was very similar to the one that beat Donny in Ealing in the final game of the season 6 months ago.

What I found is that Ealing tried to persist with kicking the high ball, even when it came back at them, so they gained no advantage in the first half, in the second half the Knights used grubber and torTomato kicks where necessary. Ealing tried to force play and as such made a lot of handling errors, the knights retained possession and were at times driven back until such time as they could find gaps that they then made the most of. The defence by the knights was solid, to keep the scoreboard to nil for 70 minutes says a lot about that - without analysing the try you got in slow motion I suspect that the guy at the front of the breakaway maul detached from the maul and it could have been construed as truck and trailer (offside) if anyone was there to stop it :-) - it was a lovely little breakthrough to be honest.

The Knights Team that ran out this time was quite different to the one 6 months ago though, as the vast majority of our older seasoned players have gone. These guys are just young, hungry and eager to play - I guess that was what made the difference. I am sure we will face a different challenge when we come to yours in a few months time.....
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CastleParkKnight I think you are 99% correct on your take on the game . I’m a Ealing supporter who made the journey up on Saturday 🙁, I don’t get all this kick,kick,kick especially in the conditions we had on Saturday. Doncaster certainly fully deserved the win , unfortunately for Ealing you wanted it a lot more than we did . All that said I’ll still think we will beat you at vallis & end up top at the end 🤞😎
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Originally posted by Yeeealing Yeeealing wrote:

CastleParkKnight I think you are 99% correct on your take on the game . I’m a Ealing supporter who made the journey up on Saturday 🙁, I don’t get all this kick,kick,kick especially in the conditions we had on Saturday. Doncaster certainly fully deserved the win , unfortunately for Ealing you wanted it a lot more than we did . All that said I’ll still think we will beat you at vallis & end up top at the end 🤞😎
You could well be right on that - we cannot seem to find a bonus point for love nor money - no bonus points no win this league for sure. However I hope to be at Vallis way to witness us taking the double 😜
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I am travelling to Penzance to support the Knights live. Can any Pirates supporter tell me whether I will be able the view the streamed game when I get back to Doncaster on Monday please?
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Originally posted by JohnLowe JohnLowe wrote:

I am travelling to Penzance to support the Knights live. Can any Pirates supporter tell me whether I will be able the view the streamed game when I get back to Doncaster on Monday please?
The game is definitely available after it has finished, but not sure how long it stays up. 
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Originally posted by JohnLowe JohnLowe wrote:

I am travelling to Penzance to support the Knights live. Can any Pirates supporter tell me whether I will be able the view the streamed game when I get back to Doncaster on Monday please?

Live & Previous games are available to view at https://www.247.tv/champsrugby
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Originally posted by Yeeealing Yeeealing wrote:

CastleParkKnight I think you are 99% correct on your take on the game . I’m a Ealing supporter who made the journey up on Saturday 🙁, I don’t get all this kick,kick,kick especially in the conditions we had on Saturday. Doncaster certainly fully deserved the win , unfortunately for Ealing you wanted it a lot more than we did . All that said I’ll still think we will beat you at vallis & end up top at the end 🤞😎

I also think Ealing will end up top and with the massive investment that has been made in their squad it should be by at least 10 clear points. Its absolutely right that other clubs make them earn it and Pirates & Donny showed how its done. Jersey fell just short of that standard a few weeks ago but will absolutely be trying harder in the return leg and every club target their games against them. Ealing have some great supporters and their owner has delivered the investment so its up to the players and coaches to deliver the result. They will probably never get a better chance.
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