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elitestands ![]() Mini and Juniors ![]() Joined: 30 May 2023 Location: ENGLAND Status: Offline Points: 8 |
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Hi all I have been involved with football all my life so when it comes to ground grading I am clued up from 50 capacity covered stands to enter at step 6 up to the premier leagues 10000k all seater requirement, I know rugby both union and league are not as well funded but I cant seem to find any ground grading regs from the rfu ? As you may have gathered elite stands make container style stands and are looking at both rugby codes for growth but cant seem to find which level to aim at as I cant find any guidance. can anyone post a link for the rfu or the wrfu thanks
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Scrumtime ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 26 Aug 2020 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 905 |
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Ask Ealing last 3 , thats not supposed to be funny either, but they have had a problem for the last 3 seasons as the goal posts move each each depending on what why the win is blowing! Ask for Sue Chandler Edited by Scrumtime - 30 May 2023 at 15:16 |
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Kimbo ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 31 May 2007 Location: 'incleh Status: Offline Points: 6600 |
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Perhaps not that clued up? The Premier League has a requirement for 5000 capacity, not 10k, which makes RU's Prem requirements even more laughable.
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workerbee ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 May 2009 Location: Wirral Status: Offline Points: 943 |
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I think you will find that only the Premier league has a ground criteria. Requiring clubs to have a 10,000 capacity. All leagues below do not. I believe that the RFU made a big mistake when the Rugby went professional and all National leagues clubs received a payment from the RFU plus travel expenses. That was the time to introduce ground criteria for level 2-4 entry levels. Instead the clubs used the money they received to pay players and not improve their grounds. Thus starting the a cycle of destruction in todays Rugby. Unfortunately the one thing you cannot buy is Loyalty.
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Deva Delinquent ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 24 May 2017 Location: Chester Status: Offline Points: 2146 |
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Something like Gloucester City's Tiger Turf stadium? To answer your question, I'd start by contacting Championship and National 1 sides first and see how you get on.
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elitestands ![]() Mini and Juniors ![]() Joined: 30 May 2023 Location: ENGLAND Status: Offline Points: 8 |
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10k hence the lutons dump and there possible move to mk or watford you can enter the championship with 5k capacity and 2k seated but have to be all seater within 2 season or building another ground
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elitestands ![]() Mini and Juniors ![]() Joined: 30 May 2023 Location: ENGLAND Status: Offline Points: 8 |
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yes similar style, planning not always required and can create grounds upto 2k all seater or a mix
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elitestands ![]() Mini and Juniors ![]() Joined: 30 May 2023 Location: ENGLAND Status: Offline Points: 8 |
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is there a level where you require at least seating or could a club go from counties to championship and stay with stay tents pavillions but no seated stand. even when i watched wakefield they were in the 2nd tier had seating at both sides with terracing at both ends
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kempstonblue ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 Jun 2020 Location: Kempston Status: Online Points: 552 |
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Luton’s capacity is not an issue. It is old, so the hospitality boxes are going for tv cameras, media facilities.
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The older I get, the more the RFU leave me confused.
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Halliford ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Feb 2010 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4309 |
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10k is from the legislation - the Safety of Sports Grounds Act. a stadium with 10k+ accommodation requires a licence. The Premier League got a dispensation from that for Bournemouth when they were first promoted and the limit for football was recued to 5k. The RFU didn't seek the same dispensation hence the requirement for Ealing/Jersey/Doncaster to demonstrate a 10k stadium despite the fact that their crowds will probably never fill the stadium.
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elitestands ![]() Mini and Juniors ![]() Joined: 30 May 2023 Location: ENGLAND Status: Offline Points: 8 |
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capacity is those little boxes wont fit the media in also where do the sponsors go ? |
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Camquin ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 12002 |
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Seating is required from step 6 - level 10, albeit only 50 seats at that level. |
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elitestands ![]() Mini and Juniors ![]() Joined: 30 May 2023 Location: ENGLAND Status: Offline Points: 8 |
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correct at step 7 cover is advised but not required seats can be anything, car seat , old sofa, park bench lol
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islander ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 17 Mar 2010 Location: jersey Status: Online Points: 7871 |
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Jersey Reds chairman got quite a bit of 'airtime' for this tweet over the w/e -
Mark Morgan @Markovich1957 I’m was born in Luton and had many seasons watching them at Kenilworth Rd. Marvellous to see them get back in to the Prem yesterday. That will be worth £175m to the club. Reds won the rugby Championship (Luton were 3rd!). Our reward? Not a single penny… @JerseyRedsRugby |
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Paul10 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 24 Mar 2023 Location: Milton Keynes Status: Offline Points: 915 |
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Ampthill are a championship rugby team (same league name as football I think)
Article here is relatively current about the facilities there. Edited by Paul10 - 30 May 2023 at 16:58 |
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Kimbo ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 31 May 2007 Location: 'incleh Status: Offline Points: 6600 |
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Good grief - it's 5k. Over and out (no point arguing with the hard of checking).
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elitestands ![]() Mini and Juniors ![]() Joined: 30 May 2023 Location: ENGLAND Status: Offline Points: 8 |
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yes heard about amphill, puzzling that they dont even have hard standing gods knows what happens in bad weather and for the disabled, they would struggle. That place would not meet step 7 in football as they have not even fenced off the pitch. there player wage versus ground works budget must be the biggest gap in world rugby.
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cheshire exile ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Status: Offline Points: 2603 |
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It’s a great place to watch a match though.
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gerg_861 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jun 2017 Location: Ealing Status: Offline Points: 2925 |
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Ampthill also doesn't have floodlights, so winter games sometimes need an early kickoff. As an Ealing supporter, I am not a fan of harsh ground criteria, but my podunk highschool in a town of 500 had lights and a 500 seat stand.
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Robb ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jan 2017 Location: South East Status: Offline Points: 1678 |
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And of course Jersey could always argue that the Act of Parliament doesn't apply to them!
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