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Not sure if your implying any irregularity but to be clear, Sedge have always done everything by the book and what is legally required.

I may also add unlike some clubs you may know who sign players on mass in pre-season but once the any hope of promotion had gone by January severed the contracts of the same players. We have always honoured contracts.

The latter point may not happen at this level but used to be pretty common in level 2 and 3 when we were there.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Athman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Aug 2016 at 12:59
Yes if BigMal's post is taken at face value then maybe National 3 North would be a good place for the RFU's investigation into illegal payments to players to begin! They can very quickly check how many have been registered as contracted which as we know any player receiving payment for playing has to be!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sedge Tiger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Aug 2016 at 12:57
And add to that 50k on a new drainage for the first XV pitch (no laughing in Sandal please ) plus a further half amount again for drainage for pitches 2/3/4 and a new pitch 5. This on the back of last seasons new electronic scoreboard, solar paneling in the club house plus all new highly efficient electrics and lighting and a total revamp of our club house thanks mainly to our sponsors. Finally and not forgetting preparation work on the south terracing for a new covered stand opposite the main stand. We do put a more than a tad into the fabric of club rather than just contracts.

One things for sure we pay what we can afford and always have done but we have greater balance on investment structure into the club and facilities.

Max and Tom are very welcome at the club as are the other 13 new signings this season.

Good luck to Loo and all clubs this coming season

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As we all know certain clubs pay and pay well. However they have not done it "through the books" and the recent RFU edict about third party (sponsor) payments is a clear reminder of those rules.
 
Certain clubs at Level 5 have an interesting time ahead of themselves.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Loo fighters Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Aug 2016 at 12:30
Suppose I have...haha. all I was thinking was, this boy is steady with the odd top performance & no more. What i was thinking is this, look at their 1st team squad, now if 6-8 are on this money, then the next 6 are on half that & the rest are on expenses, that all adds up to a fair amount.
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Originally posted by Loo fighters Loo fighters wrote:

I'm lead to believe that certain positions (prop) are very much under subscribed, therefore a clamor to recruit the best available is leading to possible over payment especially at level 5. Other positions are also at a premium, this was made clear when I was informed that a player had left Loo in favour of sedgley for what can only be described as a "toe curling" amount per game, utterly gobsmacked. If that is indicative of payment across their squad, god only knows how they can afford it.

Your own posting answers it though - payments like that aren't 'across their squad',  and are only for positions 'at a premium'.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pristine Shorts Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Aug 2016 at 11:14
Ilkley are a CASC and don't pay players and I believe Sandal and Billingham don't either.
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I'm lead to believe that certain positions (prop) are very much under subscribed, therefore a clamor to recruit the best available is leading to possible over payment especially at level 5. Other positions are also at a premium, this was made clear when I was informed that a player had left Loo in favour of sedgley for what can only be described as a "toe curling" amount per game, utterly gobsmacked. If that is indicative of payment across their squad, god only knows how they can afford it.
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Originally posted by Bigmal Bigmal wrote:

It would appear that players at Nat 3 level now expect to be recompensed in some way - and many of the clubs are willing to risk financial meltdown in order to survive at that level. I am aware that at least one club has now resisted this trend but only time will tell whether or not it will survive.
 
How many clubs in the current N3N DON'T pay?

Bigmal... Lymm have never, and I hope and pray will never provide recompense to players, apart from covering the odd train journey for students but I believe our coach usually dips into his own pocket for this. We simply wouldn't be able to sustain it, we're a tiny village with very little by the way of major sponsorship and no sugar daddy to note. The money that is sometimes very generously donated to the club is almost always invested straight back into maintaining our facilities.

I'm led to believe Wirral are a similar set up. I think both Lymm and Wirral benefit from strong links with their respective local schools and rely heavily on a lot of home grown players. 
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Originally posted by Loo fighters Loo fighters wrote:

Originally posted by Collapsingmaul Collapsingmaul wrote:

Its always great to hear of young talent coming through,johny roberts i believe is the young 9s name.who played front row,did david gairns play many minutes,i heard we had signed an ex scottish premiership loosehead from fylde,how did he do?


Mustn't have played, front row got creamed for most of the game. Gairns played majority of the game.. A number of colts & 2's/3rds so result was understandable but certainly not the end if the world.


Having just see his mugshot, I believe he was playing. Could be wrong but didn't he come off injured?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bigmal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Aug 2016 at 08:19
It would appear that players at Nat 3 level now expect to be recompensed in some way - and many of the clubs are willing to risk financial meltdown in order to survive at that level. I am aware that at least one club has now resisted this trend but only time will tell whether or not it will survive.
 
How many clubs in the current N3N DON'T pay?
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Waterloo offering accommodation match fees and jobs well I never......
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New coach he likely has his own way of doing things such as scrummaging being an ex international tighthead.i wouldn't go writing every player off just yet,i doubt it was just the front row getting dicked if indeed it was a young pack 2-3 xv i imagine the opposition had a significant weight advantage across the whole pack.roll on when universities come back
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Originally posted by Collapsingmaul Collapsingmaul wrote:

Its always great to hear of young talent coming through,johny roberts i believe is the young 9s name.who played front row,did david gairns play many minutes,i heard we had signed an ex scottish premiership loosehead from fylde,how did he do?


Mustn't have played, front row got creamed for most of the game. Gairns played majority of the game.. A number of colts & 2's/3rds so result was understandable but certainly not the end if the world.
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Its always great to hear of young talent coming through,johny roberts i believe is the young 9s name.who played front row,did david gairns play many minutes,i heard we had signed an ex scottish premiership loosehead from fylde,how did he do?
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Originally posted by TooOldToScrum TooOldToScrum wrote:

The result refelected the game.

They got mullered


They did indeed get mullered, in the scrum especially. I was told 10 players missing but most were backs so the need up front was obvious.
On the bright side some good young talent on show, Radcliffe at 13 was the standout along with the boy at 9 & blonde chap playing 7. Best summer signing Mr Reeve was back pulling the strings & Jack Weare was Mr reliable even at 4 but was missed in the back row where I thought the new lad @ 8 was more than steady. As I've said before, the sun hasn't fallen out of the sky at Loo, but maybe the clouds have dimmed it's brightness...for now anyway. COYGB.
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The result refelected the game.

They got mullered
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Sten, News at Loo, Dan King posted on Linked in advertising for Front Row and 2nd Row players offering accommodation, help finding a job and match fees.

I think the need was obvious at last Saturdays pre season game inspite protestations form DoR on Facebook saying that there were 9 First Teamers out.  I think the question is will they be back?


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I didn't manage to catch the game yesterday.How did the game go despite the result,who from last years squad played,did the new signings play,who impressed.
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Originally posted by Friendly prop Friendly prop wrote:

Originally posted by Loo fighters Loo fighters wrote:

Congratulations to Newport on their victory today..albeit against a near 2nd/colts XI. Well deserved all the same & good luck for the rest of the season.


It's no wonder they lost then playing XI v XV LOL


Haha....yeah, still in cricket mode, although it did look like at times, but as many as 10 firsts missing yesterday.
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