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Will the season finish?

I was scheduled to do Wilmslow Half today but that was postponed at the last minute so now Im facing house arrest as well.
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All rugby suspended I'm hearing
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Exiled in Mann Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Mar 2020 at 21:56
To quote Kenneth Wolstenholme.  They think it is all over - well it is now.
There are other coronavirus threads and nobody seems to have any real clue what will happened now 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MikeGC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Mar 2020 at 08:46
a few of options, I think

1. the leagues are suspended, no promotion/relegation (most likely, I think)
2. the leagues are suspended and results stand with promotion/relegation going ahead with the current league positions (unfair, IMHO)
3. a "pools panel" convene and works out the likely outcome of the remaining fixtures, awarding points accordingly.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Know All Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 2020 at 10:52
I think the RFU will push through league restructure on the resumption of Rugby next season. That way many leagues are diluted so promotion and relegation wont really matter.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bigmal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 2020 at 14:36
Will every club survive until next season ?

Those who can go back to 1962/3 ( I think) will remember that loads of games were cancelled post Xmas and lots of clubs suffered a real drop in revenue. And that was when clubs ran 3,4,5,6 and more teams.

RFU need to focus on what is best for the game as a whole - I also understand that Sir Clive has a new plan but I've not read it yet!
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I reckon there's gonna be a few arguments with  unequal games being played, especially for those being relegated. As it stands, Burnage & York are replacing Carlisle & Ilkley, which I think is right. No play offs, just champs going up. Well done to all at Burnage, well deserved.
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Thanks LF
We’re going to have to weather this financial furore first - all many of parties cancelled, (in)famous car boot sale delayed until...., pitch hire suspended, golf course currently like a swamp (that’s living cheek by jowl with the Mersey for you !)

Fingers and toes firmly crossed
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Has that been confirmed ? Carlisle surely won't be happy
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Nothing confirmed, but they're 2nd bottom when the Whistles been blown. Thems the breaks.
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I think this is going to prompt the long awaited restructure of all leagues. Too many clubs are under serious financial strains every season. This very long break though, with little to no revenue coming in over these next months due to cancellations of booking to use facilities for conferences etc and over the summer is going to see a number of clubs fold I feel...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Oldnknackered Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Mar 2020 at 17:11
Interesting mathematical calculation based on the fact that the teams that deserve pronation and relegation are the ones that are most consistent through the season. To my mind better than a pools panel who don't know individual teams circumstances. 
If you divide the current points total by the number of games played, eg, Burnage played 21 and got 78 points that averages 3.7 points per game x 5 remaining games equals 19 points. Add that to the original 78 =97.
On this context runners up are AK and Northwich (sort that out gents)on 93
Relegated would be Bowdon on 33, Warrington on 22 and Keswick on 14. My belovered Penrith would finish 10th on 52 which Broughton Park on 53.
In the league above Ilkey would be on 13,Carlusle on 44 and Morpeth on 45. 
No doubt somebody can check my maths but is that an ewuitible suggestion? 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bigmal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Mar 2020 at 17:18
No argument with the logic but in this league there have been any number of shock results so plenty of scope for debate.

Burnage has been consistent and the title was for it to lose so no real argument with them going up HOWEVER the ever focussed and objective Mike GC has highlighted the financial problems Burnage ,as well as many other sides, now face.

The Prem clubs are cutting both wages and staff and many of them are holding on to money ( including some of mine) taken for ticket sales. If they are obliged to reimburse both season ticket holders and those who have purchased tickets in advance then that could seriously damage cash flow at a time when, like Burnage,other sources of revenue have dried up.

It is not beyond the realms of possibility that a Prem club could go under BUT the RFU should be focussing on,and supporting,ALL the teams below the Prem BUT NOT by subsidising payments to players.

Will the RFU step up?
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First of all, please excuse atrocious spelling. That's what comes with trying to type on small phones with big thumbs!!
Our County union have asked all clubs to compile their anticipated losses due to the virus. Whether that's just a local initiative or not I don't know but I seem to remember seeing that Rugby League are trying to help community clubs. However given comments by Bill Sweeney in the latest RFU missive about the parlous state of the unions finances I'm not holding my breath. 
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I  can only sympathise with Mike & the Burnage boys, fully deserving to be crowned winners but this predicament of losing valuable revenue knowing the increase required to go up is a tough one. There could well be an argument for status quo from level 5 down & we go again next year.

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In north 1 you wouldn't of put a pound on the winner, anyone in the top six could of realistically of won the league .
It should be a case of asking who inside the top six stands a chance of staying up and i dont think Burnage fall into that category. 
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I think that the whole thing will change in the future as there will no longer be the money to pay payers at regional level.

If the players get a team to the top whoever that is decided then you cant speculate about their ability to compete.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MikeGC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Mar 2020 at 09:21
Originally posted by Keeppushininthescrum Keeppushininthescrum wrote:

In north 1 you wouldn't of put a pound on the winner, anyone in the top six could of realistically of won the league .
It should be a case of asking who inside the top six stands a chance of staying up and i dont think Burnage fall into that category. 

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That’s a pretty fair assessment in my opinion.
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Originally posted by Keeppushininthescrum Keeppushininthescrum wrote:

In north 1 you wouldn't of put a pound on the winner, anyone in the top six could of realistically of won the league .
It should be a case of asking who inside the top six stands a chance of staying up and i dont think Burnage fall into that category. 


That would be very subjective and cause lots of dissent if say the team in 5th was deemed to have won on this basis.

Average points would seem to be the fairest solution
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