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Steve@Mose
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Players could drop out of game 'at all levels' unless there is change warns head injury foundation
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Camquin
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The article talks of 11,000 contact events a season, which is 30 a day every day of the year. Most of those must be in training - and that suggest they are doing far too much contact training.
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Sweeney Delenda Est
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Steve@Mose
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Steve@Mose
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That's not my edit......
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CJB1
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Tee hee ...
"The football helmet is a piece of protective equipment used mainly made so Tom Brady can't kiss other players on the lips. "
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"What I need is a strong drink and a peer group"
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Steve@Mose
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Sport is 'marking its own homework' on athletes' brain injuries, say MPs
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Steve@Mose
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Surprisingly shoulder pads were created in 1877, only 8 years after the first ever American football match. I guess that in the early days players were looking for every advantage they could get in the tackle. There does not appear to be a comparable list for rugby players, but this 2018 article from Wales Online covers a number of match-related deaths in recent years.
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isleonian
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As Sid James commented above "If you put yourself willingly in the firing line with full knowledge of possible injuries then if it hits you tough sh1* my friend".
Question: when did American Football adopt helmets and all the protective gear worn by payers, and why?
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Steve@Mose
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Concussion in rugby: World Rugby 'stands with' former players in new welfare plan
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Bigmal
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Good points Marigold - problem is we realistically can't go back 40 years and the players are unlikely to shrink or indeed reduce their training load.
I can't help feeling that in some way the game will have to clearly differentiate between the amateur and professional arms with some sort of "semi pro" level to provide a potential gateway to the professional game. Perhaps the powers that be should consult with the likes of Mike Tindall who played at the highest level and yet has still turned out subsequently for his local team. He should be able to at least offer a few thoughts based on personal experience and I'm sure that there are others who could do the same? |
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Sid James
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All I can say is 'Volenti non fit injuria'.
My sympathies with your condition and personal problems but I would ask that please stop this claim as it has the potential to allow the 'PC/Sympathy voting' gang to get involved and ruin the game from which you made a living.
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All Knwoing All Seeing
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marigold
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Have been involved for many years with coaching at full range of ages and can honestly say i have never seen coaches encouraging contact as opposed to running through an available gap. What I have seen is coaches preparing players for the inevitable contact that happens in the game so they can deal with those situations. In fact footwork drills for front five players exist today to help them avoid defenders -never saw that in the days of Beaumont et al. Huge change has been the time spent on coaching defence and in particular on the organisation of team defence. Non tackling fly halves used to be celebrated and even play international rugby-these days they are not considered for selection.
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Monkey Boy
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Years of really poor coaching encouraging contact as opposed to avoiding it. Rugby is classed as an evasion sport but coached by too many people with egos and masculine issues
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billesleyexile
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keep the faith
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Rucking Idiot
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Fully agree with the 3 statements above. Having gone to a grammar school when you had 1 term of rugby with the choice of a 2nd term. Because I boxed I was placed in the front-row. You learnt your trade through the pain of not getting it right. However, didn't get my "Wings" until my 1st adult game v a London Irish XV at the age of 15. I knew the risks but played for the love of the game for another 45 seasons. My back, neck, knees, ankles & hands let me know I played the game. Even so would I do it all over again yes without question. Keep you & yours safe looking forward to meeting for a beer next Autumn....
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If it looks like a duck & quacks like a duck it's just my rucking luck!
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billesleyexile
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Schools spring to mind (my own was - 30 years ago but still today - putting out 4 XVs in each year group per week), as do M&Js - the argument in both cases that the chid isn't competent to make the decision themselves (as in understanding the potential long term consequences). IIRC doesn't someone have to sign a contract on behalf of an under 18, rather than the person themselves? Certainly do for the armed forces - so that's another potential liability in terms of clubs and more particularly academies.
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keep the faith
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Thatbloke
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Have to agree Castle Park Knight! Very unfortunate for those who suffer such consequences but sadly it comes with the territory and is, no doubt, part of the attraction of the sport for those who play it. We have been having such conversations about boxing for many, many years and still there is no shortage of those wishing to sign up and partake.
Can there be any better way to make a living than to get paid for playing a sport that, presumably, you love and enjoy. No-one is forced to play! Many professional occupations come with inherent risks attached. You have mentioned the obvious one in being employed by our armed forces but what about police force, firemen, paramedics, scaffolders, roofers,....... the list is endless. All of these occupations are covered by insurance and compensation schemes and so it should remain with professional sportspeople
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castleparknight
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Is there anything in here about the player knowing in advance of the risks involved in playing a contact sport and accepting those risks - it is a bit like a soldier who signs up during peacetime and when war arises trying to leave because I didn't join up for that....... it is a part of the role. Yes, there is an obligation to try and support the players but the liability doesn't sit with the RFU or the Clubs but with the player as they knew what they were engaging in.
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Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Rucking Idiot
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The game today is all about the big hit. Due mainly by the position you played was by your height, size & shape. For example Steve Thompson & Billy Beaumont. Perhaps the solution would be to take the game back to the 80's when tackles were below the waste and scrums were about technique...
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If it looks like a duck & quacks like a duck it's just my rucking luck!
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