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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hills17 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2022 at 12:09
Originally posted by seagoon seagoon wrote:

Originally posted by Count Ford Count Ford wrote:

Leicestershire 12 - 101 Cheshire. Not sure who can benefit from a game like that.

With 11 Caldy players in the starting XV , what did you expect?  Wink

Exactly. The nature of the beast this season with caldy and sale in the top 2 in National 1. Rugby in that area is obviously strong.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sid James Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2022 at 13:53
Anyone who doubts the importance, credibility or relevance of County rugby should have been at the Yorkshire v Lancashire match yesterday. Two totally committed County Squads battling it out in the sunshine, in front of a large crowd at WP Leeds. The photo in The Rugby Paper says it all.
Yorkshire won 33-31 thanks to a last minute penalty score and now have max points fron their 2 games but, they have to wait on Cheshire's next result before knowing if they will progress to Twickers. Odds are against them following Cheshire's massive win against Leicestershire. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Count Ford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2022 at 14:22
Originally posted by hills17 hills17 wrote:

Originally posted by seagoon seagoon wrote:

Originally posted by Count Ford Count Ford wrote:

Leicestershire 12 - 101 Cheshire. Not sure who can benefit from a game like that.


With 11 Caldy players in the starting XV , what did you expect?  Wink


Exactly. The nature of the beast this season with caldy and sale in the top 2 in National 1. Rugby in that area is obviously strong.




Cheshire are bound to be strong this year with an abundance of Caldy and Sale players, but they can potentially make the final having played neither Yorkshire or Lancashire (with all due respect to Leics and Northumbria) the stronger of the other counties in the North. I'm not a fan of this format

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Richard Lowther Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2022 at 15:13
Originally posted by Count Ford Count Ford wrote:

Originally posted by hills17 hills17 wrote:

Originally posted by seagoon seagoon wrote:

Originally posted by Count Ford Count Ford wrote:

Leicestershire 12 - 101 Cheshire. Not sure who can benefit from a game like that.


With 11 Caldy players in the starting XV , what did you expect?  Wink


Exactly. The nature of the beast this season with caldy and sale in the top 2 in National 1. Rugby in that area is obviously strong.




Cheshire are bound to be strong this year with an abundance of Caldy and Sale players, but they can potentially make the final having played neither Yorkshire or Lancashire (with all due respect to Leics and Northumbria) the stronger of the other counties in the North. I'm not a fan of this format

What is the format?


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Robb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2022 at 16:44
Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

Originally posted by Count Ford Count Ford wrote:

Originally posted by hills17 hills17 wrote:

Originally posted by seagoon seagoon wrote:

Originally posted by Count Ford Count Ford wrote:

Leicestershire 12 - 101 Cheshire. Not sure who can benefit from a game like that.


With 11 Caldy players in the starting XV , what did you expect?  Wink


Exactly. The nature of the beast this season with caldy and sale in the top 2 in National 1. Rugby in that area is obviously strong.




Cheshire are bound to be strong this year with an abundance of Caldy and Sale players, but they can potentially make the final having played neither Yorkshire or Lancashire (with all due respect to Leics and Northumbria) the stronger of the other counties in the North. I'm not a fan of this format

What is the format?



I think that counties only play 2 games rather than 3. In south Div 1, Kent are only going to play 1 since Surrey have pulled out completely apparently. So what does that mean? They get the full 5 points and a 28-0 win?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote stato Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2022 at 18:16
Leicestershire battled to the end yesterday, but only 5/6 of the starters could be deemed regulars at National 2. Syston from Level 5 provided a good number as well but there were 3 lads who had never played men's rugby before this campaign and a good number from Level 6 and Level 7 in there. Both Hinckley and Lions have had their squads ripped apart with injuries in the last couple of months and it wasn't far off last man standing in the county to get 22 in the match day squad, with a 39 and 44 year old in the front row and the forwards coach having to start in the second row. Cheshire deserve a lot of respect however, not just for their performance but their humility and attitude throughout the game which was extremely professional and respectful
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DICKON Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2022 at 20:14
Kent have already played their game, a 44-43 win at Hampshire, who subsequently lost 78-12 in Cornwall yesterday. I suspect Cornwall will have to win at Herts next Saturday to qualify from the South group.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Count Ford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2022 at 22:32
Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

Originally posted by Count Ford Count Ford wrote:

Originally posted by hills17 hills17 wrote:

Originally posted by seagoon seagoon wrote:

Originally posted by Count Ford Count Ford wrote:

Leicestershire 12 - 101 Cheshire. Not sure who can benefit from a game like that.


With 11 Caldy players in the starting XV , what did you expect?  Wink


Exactly. The nature of the beast this season with caldy and sale in the top 2 in National 1. Rugby in that area is obviously strong.




Cheshire are bound to be strong this year with an abundance of Caldy and Sale players, but they can potentially make the final having played neither Yorkshire or Lancashire (with all due respect to Leics and Northumbria) the stronger of the other counties in the North. I'm not a fan of this format


What is the format?




It's very possible I'm wrong on this..but previously it was groups of 3 and they all played either other. But now it's groups of 5 and they play only 2 of that group?? Please correct me if wrong

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I note that Warwickshire were battered again.
But then, with just one NL2 player in the squad, and the rest playing at Midlands Prem and quite a few below that, it's not too surprising.
Such a shift away from the dominant 'Coventryshire' days (with the one token Nuns player).
I sometimes wonder what the point of the competition is.

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There is none, and any serious reorganization would scrap it, unless you are from Lancashire or Cornwall, when it is the most prestigious title in community rugby.
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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

There is none, and any serious reorganization would scrap it, unless you are from Lancashire or Cornwall, when it is the most prestigious title in community rugby.

Or Cheshire.

Having said that, the County championship is a unique type of competition which has possibly had its day. Having said that, any player who represents their county do so with justifiable pride no matter what level they're at. 
If we are after meaningful competition however, we might do better with a regional approach, the only issue there would be that given the way the RFU organise things, Cheshire would probably be part of the South West and Leicestershire part of the North East
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Saturnate Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2022 at 11:55
Not sure if this is still the case, but I believe Kent use to limit the number of players from any single team (which I believe was two).  This obviously had the affect of spreading representation further through the league pyramid.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Robb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2022 at 12:23
Originally posted by Saturnate Saturnate wrote:

Not sure if this is still the case, but I believe Kent use to limit the number of players from any single team (which I believe was two).  This obviously had the affect of spreading representation further through the league pyramid.

It's not. They seem to have got rid of it a while ago. For example A few seasons ago, Kent's 7, 8, 9 and 10 were from Tunbridge Wells. Now if you look at their teamsheet, it's mostly Blackheath, Canterbury, Tonbridge and Westcombe Park.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Golden Jackal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2022 at 13:48
Agree Camquin and certainly here in E Counties there is no buy in from any of the senior clubs so we have players from Level  6 7 and 8...great for them, but does it serve any real purpose?
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GJ apparently if a player has played more than a certain amount of games at level 4 he then becomes unavailable for EC. Or so I am told.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2022 at 14:51
The Cambridge squad had been running on fumes, I am not sure how many players we used, but it was less than many years. By May, they needed a break.

Many of our players have traditionally played for East Midlands or Hertfordshire, but we usually provide the Counties with a number of players. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Golden Jackal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2022 at 15:30
i think EC made the decision to drop a level and play primarily those players who had played sub county rugby...therefore L3, 4 and 5 players became ineligible...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2022 at 16:14
Several of the Cambridge Exiles played for Cambridgeshire in the internal sub-county competition, but I do not know if any made the EC team.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pen 15 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2022 at 16:22
Up in the North Lancs where the dominant force with Sedge and Fylde when they where N1 teams ,tables have turned with Cheshire having the Nat 1 teams now ,Caldy and Sale who have supplied the vast majority of the players ,it's just the way things swing.
is it stours year yet
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Is anyone going to Birkenhead Park for the Cheshire game tomorrow? 
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