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Camquin 
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 Posted: 03 May 2022 at 11:33 |
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Is Level 6 sticking to the current divisions, or is there scope for some sorting out on the margins? The boundary between London and South West is currently based on Victorian rail timetables, with the clubs served from Waterloo being in London and those from Paddington and Marylebone in South West. So Eastleigh is i London and Windsor in the South West.
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Front Jumper
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Posted: 03 May 2022 at 10:04 |
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Yes I have seen that before. The SW - Thornbury and St Austell dropout and replacements will be Lydney and Devonport Services. But Level 6 becomes more interesting I would think!
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Mark W-J
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Posted: 03 May 2022 at 08:57 |
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Here's a link to a post from a couple of months ago which shows the draft leagues at L5 at that point in time:
A few things have changed since then, but it gives you an overall view of the likely boundaries.
Edited by Mark W-J - 03 May 2022 at 08:59 |
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Camquin
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Posted: 02 May 2022 at 21:02 |
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If I get time, I might take a guess at the Southern leagues, but we are waiting for announcements from Lancashire, which could have huge impacts on the Northern leagues. Level 7 is 16 leagues, but really depends on which counties have accepted 2nd XVs
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Posted: 02 May 2022 at 20:20 |
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I believe that is correct and could be interesting
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Posted: 02 May 2022 at 20:03 |
Am just getting my head around the 72 level 5s. Isn’t it 12x12 level 6 leagues?
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The older I get, the more the RFU leave me confused.
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Posted: 02 May 2022 at 19:08 |
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Any news on Level 6 teams yet?
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Camquin
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Posted: 02 May 2022 at 18:11 |
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Yes I mean Oundle not Peterborough, apologies to Oundle.
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Posted: 02 May 2022 at 18:02 |
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Wondering where Oundle have gone to?
Or has Peterborough post code overwritten Oundle? Edited by kempstonblue - 02 May 2022 at 18:06 |
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The older I get, the more the RFU leave me confused.
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Camquin
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Posted: 02 May 2022 at 12:19 |
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Yes, there are no level transfers, they simply redraw the leagues each year. Now I think that will also see the same sides swapping leagues over time, albeit slightly different ones than when there were four leagues.
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Posted: 02 May 2022 at 10:56 |
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Civil Service may switch with Sidcup, assuming CS are still going.
Plenty of new away grounds to visit either way.
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Mark W-J
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Posted: 02 May 2022 at 10:54 |
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I think that the make-up of the leagues is going to be more fluid year-by-year as we don't have the structure in place for teams to feed from L6 to L5 and from there to L4. I know we've always had level transfers, but if you look at the situation with where Chester are likely to be placed, I do feel that the powers-that-be will review and potentially rearrange the boundaries every season to get a best fit.
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Posted: 02 May 2022 at 10:47 |
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First apologies for not posting this earlier, to get the points on the map, I needed to use coordinates and I failed to save the spreadsheet with names and locations. Always back up your work. Second, this is NOT official. Having said that, here are the leagues I came up with. Remember, take with a large pinch of salt. South West Brixham Cambourne Chew Valley Devonport Services Drybrook Exmouth Ivybridge Launceston Lydney Okehampton Old Centralians Weston-super-mare London South Bournemouth Bracknell Brighton Camberley Civil Service Havant Medway Royal Wooton Bassett Sutton & Epsom Tunbridge Wells Westcombe Park Wimbledon London North Banbury Bedford Athletic Colchester Harpenden Hertford London Welsh Maidenhead Oxford Harlequins Shelford Sidcup Sudbury Tring Midlands Broadstreet Bromsgrove Burton Derby Dudley Kingswinford Kennilworth Lichfield Nuneaton Pavoirs Peterborough Syston West Bridgeford North West Bridgenorth Burnage Firwood Waterloo Lymm Macclesfield Manchester Northwich Rossendale Sandbach Stockport Stoke on Trent Wirral North Alnwick
Billingham Blackburn Cleckheaton Doncaster Phoenix Driffield Heath Ilkley Kirby Lonsdale Sandal SKiwifruithorpe York |
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Posted: 01 May 2022 at 11:46 |
. That’s similar to the expectations the Alnwick President had when they visited us for our North Premier game a few weeks ago. |
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Posted: 01 May 2022 at 11:24 |
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I think NE Prem will be more like Alnwick, Billingham, Cleckheaton, Derby, Doncaster Phoenix, Driffield, Heath, Paviors, Sandal, Sunny Scunny, West Bridgford & York. Only my guess. Possibly Dronfield as opposed to Cleckheaton (who have more points) if they want to have an even split between Mids and North.
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Posted: 01 May 2022 at 11:17 |
I think that's probably Royal Wootton Bassett, Carlos. Eastern Counties off to play Dorset and Wiltshire there next weekend in the County Championship - I can report back here on travel times! The problem with dealing with mileages in London division is that the gravitational pull of the smoke distorts the space-time continuum. I agree a North/South makes more sense than East/West - not least because that fits better with the lower league set-up for promotion/relegation.
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Posted: 01 May 2022 at 11:11 |
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Looking at the map, doesn't north/south (for us in the London region) make more sense? Getting from the south coast up to deepest darkest Herts/Cambs/Essex can be a nightmare journey.
By the way, who is that halfway to Bristol?
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Posted: 01 May 2022 at 10:30 |
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CQ got told yesterday that there's a big announcement due on the Leagues in the North West this week.
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Camquin
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Posted: 01 May 2022 at 09:41 |
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I did say it was my best guess and NOT official. I assumed a North South split because of the Thames, North-South travel gets forced through a few pinch points which lead to travel delays. But I have not fully checked travel times, nor would I be surprised by any decision by the RFU/NCA. The decision as to which side North of Manchester goes North is going to be a tough call as they have extra travel. And which of the goes into Manchester and which to the Midlands is also a big decision. There will be just as many hard calls at level 6 and level 7. |
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Mark W-J
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Posted: 30 Apr 2022 at 19:35 |
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From what I understand, the southern split will be east/ west rather than north/ south as implied by this graphic.
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