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    Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 12:17
It was explained by one of our 2nd XV referees that for the 50-20 kick to be an attacking line-out the law states the ball has to bounce inside the 22 before going into touch. Last night a Welsh 50-20 kick bounced outside the 22 then into touch inside the 22 without hitting the ground inside the 22 area.
If the above is true should this have been given as a France throw in not a Welsh one? Would be interested to know higher level referee's views.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote islander Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 12:49
I don't believe the above is true... as long it bounces somewhere infield & crosses the line of touch between 22 & corner flag then you get the throw-in. Jonathan Davies & Joe Worsley were also referring to the "50-20" law on TV comms last night, rather than correctly referring to it as 50:22
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve@Mose Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 13:41
Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

I don't believe the above is true... as long it bounces somewhere infield & crosses the line of touch between 22 & corner flag then you get the throw-in. Jonathan Davies & Joe Worsley were also referring to the "50-20" law on TV comms last night, rather than correctly referring to it as 50:22

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cheshire exile Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 16:32
The second XV ref is confusing the new rule with the long-standing Rugby League 50/20.
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Originally posted by cheshire exile cheshire exile wrote:

The second XV ref is confusing the new rule with the long-standing Rugby League 50/20.


Rugby League doesn't have a 50-20 rule long standing or otherwise.

It is actually a 40-20 rule which is a lot harder to achieve than 50-22
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Mar 2022 at 15:01
The law says the kick must be indirect, it does not say anything about where the bounce must occur.
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Question - if a player is in his own 22 and kicks the ball directly into touch in the opposition 22 should they get the ball or should the defending team get the ball?
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Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

Question - if a player is in his own 22 and kicks the ball directly into touch in the opposition 22 should they get the ball or should the defending team get the ball?


I believe the answer to that is no as the ball has to bounce in play to get a 50-22
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That is right. I have seen a World Rugby clarification to England Rugby saying so. Kicking from own 22 just means you don’t lose the distance if goes straight into touch. That remains the case if it goes out in oppo 22 so you still get the benefit 

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That would appear to be the case. I could download the laws from world rugby site but everything else seen suggests that is the requirement. Only that it goes indirectly into touch inside the oppo 22. Nothing stated about where it has to bounce. A couple of websites did make the same mistake as the OP’s official but that seemed to be a misunderstanding

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