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It was interesting to see the Rugby Paper . . club by club signings and departures. Not much flow from Prem down to Championship, but huge amount of signings from Bucs. There seem to have been bigger signings in Nat 1! Hopefully, financial reality is sinking in. Top 4 have done most business and will probably remain as top 4. However, it does not show all the loan players from Prem Clubs  ..  as I am sure the likes of Ampthill and Scottish will  have many on the first day of the Season.
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Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Jack Grant, scrum half joins Ealing from NSW Waratahs. He's 28 and started multiple games of super rugby last year.

Oh gawd another quality signings 
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Jack Grant, scrum half joins Ealing from NSW Waratahs. He's 28 and started multiple games of super rugby last year.
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Originally posted by billesleyexile billesleyexile wrote:

Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

Originally posted by Runitback Runitback wrote:

On a seperate matter I believe Doncaster Knights have or are putting a planning application in for the requiste number of empty seats to qualify for promotion?

Perhaps you would have seen this news weeks ago if you had looked at earlier posts - the reality is, we need to have the planning consent in place to ensure that "IF" we manage to attain promotion we can go ahead and put in place said facilities (I think initially these would be temporary stands, we have been assured these could be erected between the end of the Championship season and the start of the Premiership season). This is probably belts and braces - after the RFU implied that potentially next season a capacity of 5000 would suffice which Castle Park has already - but as we are all aware the RFU have been known to speak with "forked tongue" before so best to be safe.

Please note I did say IF we attain promotion - our big spending rivals in the smoke (Ealing) have made some incredible signings (again), and a lot of our competitors have done so too, I think this season coming is going to be very challenging. Doncaster retained a lot of the squad from last season, a few were let go / retired and a handful moved on to higher leagues - the Knights have 21 players retained that were in the squad last season so the Team before self ethos should prevail again this season.

frankly - assuming that's correct - that's a pretty flexible stance by the RFU. The FA is very doctrinaire on these things, whether it's temporary or not, and whether it could be finished by the start of the next season or not, they do their ground audits in Feb-March for the following season. If the structure isn't there and finished, then you've failed the audit.

Kidderminster Harriers got caught by this in 1993-4. Won the conference at a canter, ground on track to be (and indeed was subsequently) finished in time for kick off of the first match of the next season. Promotion refused because it hadn't been finished for inspection in February 1994.

If the RFU will really ok promotion on the basis of plans, then for once maybe we're getting something right. 

I understand where you are coming from - one would assume that we have a ground share arrangement (we had Hull KR ground arranged this season - & Eco Power Stadium (formerly Keepmoat) home of Doncaster Rovers previously, we couldn't have it this season as it is hosting Rugby League World Cup matches in October) , the groundshare will likely be presented to show that if the stands are not in place by start of season, that we would have the facilities that would meet the requirements. 
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Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

To be fair though, 

no thanks, still an open wound Wink

anyway, back to signings and departures
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Originally posted by billesleyexile billesleyexile wrote:

...If the structure isn't there and finished, then you've failed the audit.
Kidderminster Harriers got caught by this in 1993-4. Won the conference at a canter, ground on track to be (and indeed was subsequently) finished in time for kick off of the first match of the next season. Promotion refused because it hadn't been finished for inspection in February 1994.

If the RFU will really ok promotion on the basis of plans, then for once maybe we're getting something right. 
That'd be a first then Wink
To be fair though, Kiddy fell foul of the FA nearly thirty years ago, so a different era entirely. There was, quite rightly, much indignation, too.
However, current EFL regs for entry into their League Two are more sensible and flexible, thus:

minimum criteria:

 

Capacity

Seats

Qualification Criteria

4,000 (with ability to reach 5000)

500 (with ability to reach 1,000)

Admission Criteria

5,000

1,000 (with ability to reach 2,000)

Membership Criteria

5,000

2,000

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1.2  A new member club entering League Two must comply with the Qualification Criteria and has until the 30 April in its first Season as a Member to meet the Admission Criteria set out in the above table
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Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

Originally posted by Runitback Runitback wrote:

On a seperate matter I believe Doncaster Knights have or are putting a planning application in for the requiste number of empty seats to qualify for promotion?

Perhaps you would have seen this news weeks ago if you had looked at earlier posts - the reality is, we need to have the planning consent in place to ensure that "IF" we manage to attain promotion we can go ahead and put in place said facilities (I think initially these would be temporary stands, we have been assured these could be erected between the end of the Championship season and the start of the Premiership season). This is probably belts and braces - after the RFU implied that potentially next season a capacity of 5000 would suffice which Castle Park has already - but as we are all aware the RFU have been known to speak with "forked tongue" before so best to be safe.

Please note I did say IF we attain promotion - our big spending rivals in the smoke (Ealing) have made some incredible signings (again), and a lot of our competitors have done so too, I think this season coming is going to be very challenging. Doncaster retained a lot of the squad from last season, a few were let go / retired and a handful moved on to higher leagues - the Knights have 21 players retained that were in the squad last season so the Team before self ethos should prevail again this season.

frankly - assuming that's correct - that's a pretty flexible stance by the RFU. The FA is very doctrinaire on these things, whether it's temporary or not, and whether it could be finished by the start of the next season or not, they do their ground audits in Feb-March for the following season. If the structure isn't there and finished, then you've failed the audit.

Kidderminster Harriers got caught by this in 1993-4. Won the conference at a canter, ground on track to be (and indeed was subsequently) finished in time for kick off of the first match of the next season. Promotion refused because it hadn't been finished for inspection in February 1994.

If the RFU will really ok promotion on the basis of plans, then for once maybe we're getting something right. 


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Ealing recruitment is excellent but I really hope Donny and others give them a run for their money.
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Originally posted by Runitback Runitback wrote:

On a seperate matter I believe Doncaster Knights have or are putting a planning application in for the requiste number of empty seats to qualify for promotion?

Perhaps you would have seen this news weeks ago if you had looked at earlier posts - the reality is, we need to have the planning consent in place to ensure that "IF" we manage to attain promotion we can go ahead and put in place said facilities (I think initially these would be temporary stands, we have been assured these could be erected between the end of the Championship season and the start of the Premiership season). This is probably belts and braces - after the RFU implied that potentially next season a capacity of 5000 would suffice which Castle Park has already - but as we are all aware the RFU have been known to speak with "forked tongue" before so best to be safe.

Please note I did say IF we attain promotion - our big spending rivals in the smoke (Ealing) have made some incredible signings (again), and a lot of our competitors have done so too, I think this season coming is going to be very challenging. Doncaster retained a lot of the squad from last season, a few were let go / retired and a handful moved on to higher leagues - the Knights have 21 players retained that were in the squad last season so the Team before self ethos should prevail again this season.
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Originally posted by Runitback Runitback wrote:

Yes Richmond recruitment looks very lightweight, especially when you contrast with RP . . . but then I suppose it is all about budget unfortunately. It will also be interesting to see if they get the usual 2 DRs from Quins as presumably these will now go to Scottish?

On a seperate matter I believe Doncaster Knights have or are putting a planning application in for the requiste number of empty seats to qualify for promotion?

I think it may also be regards to how they manage recruitment, whilst some clubs are more active. I think RFC tend to wait for players who are moving to the city or leaving uni to come to them.

Every player there is on a match fee up from £200 + £50 a win to £260 + £60 a win this season, so it wouldn't in theory cost them anything to sign an additional player in a certain position. 

RP look like they're determined to to lift N1 with the money they are throwing behind their recruitment this season abit like Blackheath in N2
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Originally posted by Runitback Runitback wrote:


On a seperate matter I believe Doncaster Knights have or are putting a planning application in for the requiste number of empty seats to qualify for promotion?

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Yes Richmond recruitment looks very lightweight, especially when you contrast with RP . . . but then I suppose it is all about budget unfortunately. It will also be interesting to see if they get the usual 2 DRs from Quins as presumably these will now go to Scottish?

On a seperate matter I believe Doncaster Knights have or are putting a planning application in for the requiste number of empty seats to qualify for promotion?
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Originally posted by Pistacio Pistacio wrote:

https://www.richmondfc.co.uk/news/new-players-announcement-2717917.html

You'd imagine there is a plan to recruit a few more players... with just 2 hookers on the books ,1 yet to start pre-season training you'd think a minimum of 3 or 4 is required for a champ campaign.
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Just six years to go to equal Graham Dawe's record of playing Championship rugby at 50!
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Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

Got to respect Mark Bright - the man is a warrior 

extraordinary - 44-y-o within a couple of weeks of the season starting. He'll be playing with/against players more than a quarter of a century younger than him...
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Originally posted by Member728 Member728 wrote:

some news from Mond 
Mark Bright  made captain

Great choice. 
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Got to respect Mark Bright - the man is a warrior 
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some news from Mond 
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