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castleparknight
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Having watched the game and the Kick to touch I cannot say I blame the decision. They were just outside their own 22 yard area - the potential of making it all the way up the pitch was narrow (at best) so I would say the call was sensible, yes the drama would have been great to watch but what would people be saying now if they had gone on to lose the ball in open play and then lost to a penalty goal or try? If we had been in their half and gone for goal or a line out I would have questioned their decision not to do so but that was not the case. Maybe that is the pessimism in me, but a draw was a good decision IMHO on that occasion.
However all other opinions expressed about the need for change etc. are valid as far as I am concerned.
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Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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CJB1
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Gatland returns to Wales, so that's one option ruled out.
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"What I need is a strong drink and a peer group"
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tulip
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[QUOTE=castleparknight]Having watched the game and the Kick to touch I cannot say I blame the decision. They were just outside their own 22 yard area - the potential of making it all the way up the pitch was narrow (at best) so I would say the call was sensible, yes the drama would have been great to watch but what would people be saying now if they had gone on to lose the ball in open play and then lost to a penalty goal or try? If we had been in their half and gone for goal or a line out I would have questioned their decision not to do so but that was not the case. Maybe that is the pessimism in me, but a draw was a good decision IMHO on that occasion.
However all other opinions expressed about the need for change etc. are valid as far as I am concerned. [/QUOTEI think the players needed the draw and the fans and Eddie Jones needed a win The difference however was that England’s cricket captain Ben Stokes believed his players Could win and they did.
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islander
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Reports tonight (it's the Mail, so can't vouch for it, altho' their rugby bloke usually fairly well-informed) that Eddie will be sacked tomorrow & replaced by Borthwick...
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Pistacio
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and Kevin Sinfield?
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WESTCOMBE RANGER
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Only for the 6 Nations then see what happens ?
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The older I get, the better I was.
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Richard Lowther
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He's gone.
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Camquin
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BBC announce Jones has gone - after a poor run of form. I might have phrased it slightly differently. |
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Sweeney Delenda Est
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islander
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poor, dismal, woeful, disastrous - does it really matter which adjective is used?!
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Richard Lowther
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I won't be shedding any tears. I have never seen any evidence that he was taking England forward. He has never had an idea who his best team was or been able to change plans in game when everything started to go awry.
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Camquin
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Richard Huckleberryerill is interim coach
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Sweeney Delenda Est
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islander
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I recall what seemed (at the time) some reasonably strong evidence of this after a game against NZ in Japan a few years ago. But it was quite fleeting - so maybe I dreamt it?
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Camquin
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Sweeney Delenda Est
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Richard Lowther
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[QUOTE=Richard Lowther]I won't be shedding any tears. I have never seen any evidence that he was taking England forward. He has never had an idea who his best team was or been able to change plans in game when everything started to go awry. [/QUOTE]
The classic example for me was England being 31-0 at half time against Scotland at Twickenham in 2019, then luckily getting a draw after Scotland came back to score 38 points in the second half. No on the field leadership in that game - No off the field leadership in that game. The problem was that it didn't stop at that game, it continued afterwards. I am hoping for too much if I ask for Farrell to go too?
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Big Eddie
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Us Taffs wanted Eddie to stay, please keep Farrell for the same reason
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''The future isn't what it used to be''
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tulip
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We’ll find a job for Eddie over in Ireland with all the
other discarded,rubbish England coaches Lancaster,Farrell,Catt and Rowntree At some stage the players have to say we were not up to International standard. |
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donnyladinsheffield
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If the roles had been reversed would NZ have kicked to touch? We all know the answer and it tells us everything.
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He's alright and he don't care; He's got thermal underwear
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Steve@Mose
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Steve Borthwick to be confirmed as new head coach in coming days
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islander
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tomorrow, apparently... or today if you're reading this on Monday
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tulip
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The Times have confirmed Steve Borthwick as New England coach
with Kevin Sinfield as assistant.
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