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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wigwam Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Oct 2022 at 18:12
From that seen some far I would be surprised if Blackheath lose a game all year. That prospect just amplifies the ridiculous RFU reshuffle that in turn means we have no play offs at this level. 

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Thanks for the response FAP......i was surprised Shamrose did not respond himself.
From what you say, it seems that as a club, Dorking have taken big steps forward.  I will be surprised if the current side has more quality than the team that was promoted 7 years ago.....but will let you know what I think after seeing your lot at our place.
I did hear that you have a no8 who is a bit of a terror in the loose and at the breakdown ?

I won't get into reasons why our lads left for Dorking, other than to say you left out Will Scholes, arguably the best of the bunch.  My understanding was that he said he had retired, before turning up at the Big Field.  Ouch

Best of luck for the rest of the season, I reckon another top 4 finish would be a fine result for you.
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Originally posted by Darth Raider Darth Raider wrote:

Hi Shamrose........Dorking do have some previous, though the current side is not as strong as the team that were promoted last time around.......with messrs Crow and Pimelow at the helm ?  They flattered to get promoted again for a while did they not ?  I think Crow was up at Dry Leas last year but I have not seen his name on the team sheet thus far.

I imagine this year's side are strengthened by the addition of four Raiders ?  I reckon two of them could, arguably, play level 3.   
Hi DR. As Shamrose has not replied to your post I thought I would respond. As Camquin has said we were promoted to L4 seven years ago and spent 2 seasons. Its been mentioned before but we finished 4th in our 1st season and shocked quite a few. Its true we had Crow and also Roux our current DOR. Pimlow is still with us but his appearances now are more cameo's as he has returned from a long while out, and now has a family and is of course that much older.
IMO our team of 2022 is as good, but now the club has much deeper strength in depth and can cope with the demands. A strong mix of the club graduating its youth, good recruitment, and the added benefit of state of the art Gym and S&C facilities. The club has also invested heavily in our coaching staff and medical support team, so we have a lot to offer young players who want to join a progressive well managed club.
Indeed it was the lack of our strength in depth that resulted in our relegation the last time. The club has benefitted from good sponsors which has allowed for the development of facilities and our 1st team pitch.
We have also been lucky to have recruited Henry Birch, Henry Anscombe, and Joe Spurgeon from Worthing and all are contributing to our current success. I did try to establish why they left but never got an answer. I understand differences of opinion might be something to do with it.
It will be interesting to see if Crow turns out against us for Henley when we visit Dry Leas on 12th November. 
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The points deduction for Westcliff was for not putting a side out at the end of last season vs Worthing. As I recall they could not put a front row out, we offered players. Not wanted. The front row were on a stag weekend I believe. Not impressive
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Ancient, that is ever so kind of you to say, Zoe and her team are brilliant and I am so pleased she looked after you and some of the weary Oaks who travelled, I think you got Barnes on the bounce back as we were so poor at Henley the previous week. 
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[QUOTE=LHTT]What's the latest on your pitch AO?

And I heard a rumour that there may be issues relating to a points deduction for Sevenoaks too, something to do with the registration of an Australian last season? (I'm not trying to stir things up, genuinely interested!)
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The latest I hear is that our pitch should be OK for our next home match v Canterbury on the 22nd Oct. Very embarrassing for us but totally out of our hands. We played our home match v Dorking on a cracking pitch at Sevenoaks School.
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Hi Shamrose........Dorking do have some previous, though the current side is not as strong as the team that were promoted last time around.......with messrs Crow and Pimelow at the helm ?  They flattered to get promoted again for a while did they not ?  I think Crow was up at Dry Leas last year but I have not seen his name on the team sheet thus far.

I imagine this year's side are strengthened by the addition of four Raiders ?  I reckon two of them could, arguably, play level 3.   
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Dorking has been at this level before, it was only seven years ago. Though things change rapidly, so I am not sure how much that helps.

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As a Westcliff supporter, I’m pleased that we are currently more competitive than we were in this league last season. It was a shame that an unfortunate first half red card probably cost us, what would have been a confidence building first win a couple of weeks back. It’s going to be another tough season though and we will need to keep everyone fit, and have some luck if we are to have any chance of picking up the wins we will need to get out of the bottom two. One thing is for sure, the lads won’t give up.

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Quietly happy with Dorking's start to the season in a higher league

For the 3 promoted clubs you simply don't know what you have stepped into so a soiid start is welcomeBig smile


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What's the latest on your pitch AO?

And I heard a rumour that there may be issues relating to a points deduction for Sevenoaks too, something to do with the registration of an Australian last season? (I'm not trying to stir things up, genuinely interested!)
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Not sure if this the right forum topic but I just wanted to give a big shout out for Zoe and her dinner ladies at Barnes on Saturday. Three Ancient Oaks arrived travel weary, thirsty and hungry having been denied our customary pre match local pub refreshment by horrendous traffic delays on the A3. Throwing ourselves at the mercy of these culinary angels they feasted us on steak pie, veg and gravy without batting an eyelid all washed down with a couple of pints of Ruddles - thank you ladies! Barnes hospitality helped to soften the subsequent blow of the thumping we got on the pitch - a few key talismans missing I'm afraid. No excuse I know. Barnes are a slick unit but we'll be back!


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I believe it is for not fulfilling games last season, when there was no relegation, so carried over to this season.

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Westcliffe points deduction, not Rochford, sorry, Essex all the same to me! 

What's the points deduction for?

I think it's too early to be talking about Club pulling away when we are 1 point clear after 4 games.
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It does look pretty ominous at the moment.......Shanners Club stringing some very good early results together.
I had thought that OA's, BSE, Hawks and TJ's, might all provide stern competition for them.  I guess they still might, but each have shown some fallibility already.  They might well contest the 'best of the rest' competition between them, with perhaps, Barnes and Dorking looking to get involved as well.  The latter have recruited well ConfusedOuch 

It would be a shame if Club pulled away early, as in our new format with only one promotion position, there would be less interest in the season.

The relegation battle might be more interesting with two going down.
Westcliff with their points deduction look to be in some trouble, but there is still a long way to go. 

I watched my first game of the season on Saturday at The Rugby Park.  A decent BP win for my lot, the caveat being that that City Side was perhaps, the weakest I can recall in 20yrs of watching them. 
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Interesting comments GJ. I agree the ruling-out of the 5th try was a key moment, but the officials got that right, from my angle, we may have to agree to differ on that. 

Big test away at OA's next game & I think we may have picked up some knocks on Sat which could test the strength in depth of the side, I'm not so optimistic on Club's immediate future as you yet.

I think BSE should have a good season, best team at WH so far this season. 

Does anyone know why Rockford have had a points deduction?
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Club were the best side Ive seen Bury play in the last 18 months...reminded me of Rams and Chinnor in their pomp....Bury looked overawed and lacked intensity in the first half and were cut to ribbans by a team that play at real pace....showed some good charachter to come back and who knows if the 5th try hadnt been ruled out for "blocking". then it could have been a grandstand finish...I think by Christmas Shanners and the boys will be out of sight...

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So, how does everyone think it's going so far?

BSE gave Club a reminder that they won't have things all their own way in the 2nd half yesterday scoring 3 tries in 6 minutes, it wasn't the day for it but Bury's rolling maul looks a handful, I suspect they'll come into their own when the weather changes.

I was surprised that Henley went down to N Walsham yesterday, I had them down as likely competitors but NW is a notorious difficult place to go...

Barnes & OA's also look like they can score...
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Having checked, 2 down and one up.
There are no play-offs in the national and regional league.

Promotion from counties 1 is tbc. There are 16 leagues feeding 12. 
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One up to National 1, three coming down.
While there is no formal level transfer, the leagues at this level will be selected to minimize travel.



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