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    Posted: 17 Jan 2023 at 21:42
Originally posted by Elijah Cadman Elijah Cadman wrote:

Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Originally posted by Elijah Cadman Elijah Cadman wrote:

Sounds like a poor performance in your view? A premiership referee? Surprised by your comments.  


Honest question - Is it not set out by law (8.3) that a penalty try requires a yellow card? Or am I misunderstanding this?



Only if a player is clearly identified as I understand it. 


That is my understanding as well. Personally, I don’t like the law.
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Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Originally posted by Elijah Cadman Elijah Cadman wrote:

Sounds like a poor performance in your view? A premiership referee? Surprised by your comments.  

Honest question - Is it not set out by law (8.3) that a penalty try requires a yellow card? Or am I misunderstanding this?


Only if a player is clearly identified as I understand it. 


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Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Originally posted by Elijah Cadman Elijah Cadman wrote:

Sounds like a poor performance in your view? A premiership referee? Surprised by your comments.  

Honest question - Is it not set out by law (8.3) that a penalty try requires a yellow card? Or am I misunderstanding this?


That’s my understanding. And wondering whether Cov should have had a player binned yesterday when a PT was awarded to Jersey yesterday with 1-2 mins to play. Not saying it would have made a difference, but perhaps a tiny bit more room against 14 to snatch the most unlikely of wins 
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Originally posted by Elijah Cadman Elijah Cadman wrote:

Sounds like a poor performance in your view? A premiership referee? Surprised by your comments.  

Honest question - Is it not set out by law (8.3) that a penalty try requires a yellow card? Or am I misunderstanding this?

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Originally posted by AnIdiotAbroad AnIdiotAbroad wrote:

The supporters of ring fencing should take note rather than condoning turning a blind eye to unsustainable prem clubs operating in a manner that the corporate world could not ignore - it is such a surprise their bankers allow them to. 

Bravo Caldy, looking forward to experiencing Paton Field later in the season.   

I am sorry I was unable to visit Doncaster........a tiring pre Christmas schedule left me knackered and boxing day was spent asleep. However thank you for your kind words about Caldy.

Everyone associated with Caldy is loving the Championship and I can say that all the Championship clubs I have visited or who have visited Caldy have been warm, appreciative of our achievements and have been proper rugby people. The Championship experience has been far better than I imagined it would be and if in the end it is just a one season visit it still will be the best of experiences.

Our visit to the RAG for the first game against Richmond was a delight. We were hosted brilliantly by Chairman John Heaton who gave us the welcome we try and give others and Nick Royle's worldy set us on the path to an inaugral Championship win. 

At Ampthill the Mob were huge fun and although we let a commanding lead slip away Paul Turner gave us some of the most prescient and sound advice. "You have to realise before April that you are capable of beating 9 out of the other 11 teams in this league"

The visit to Bedford was something else. It was Bedford's ladies day and we all wore pink and travelled in a pink coach and arrived suffused with 3 bottles of pink fizz. We were brilliantly hosted by David Gunner and his wife and despite a pasting it was an upliffting day out.

I missed the Scottish and Donny games because of work committments but I know those who travelled to Doncaster very much enjoyed the hospitality. The trip to Scottish was blighted by travel woes which very much marred the views of those that travelled but we will look forward to welcoming the Jocks to Paton Field. Do the Jocks wear kilts as part of their post match dress?

In the league we have hosted, Hartpury, Nottingham, Jersey, Coventry, Cornish Pirates, Ealing and Richmond. They have all brought their own rugby model and from talking to their supporters have enjoyed the Paton Field experience........it isn't ritzy or glamorous but it is passionate and hopefully welcoming and fair. 

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At BPA yesterday despite it being streamed free. Absolutely brilliant support COV a real 16th man supporting their team.
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In what has been a very difficult year for Donny who I follow, a massive ray of sunshine has been the approach of Caldy and the observations of Big Eddie. At Castle Park on Boxing Day, the travelling Ravers were a credit to the club and it is evident all associated with Caldy are having a blast and winning games. 

The supporters of ring fencing should take note rather than condoning turning a blind eye to unsustainable prem clubs operating in a manner that the corporate world could not ignore - it is such a surprise their bankers allow them to. 

Bravo Caldy, looking forward to experiencing Paton Field later in the season.   

    
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Caldy were hosts to Richmond and despite the terrible weather what an uplifting day it was for the Ravers and their supporters.

Around 150 for lunch were treated to an enjoyable meal, the presence of the Mayor of Wirral and his consort both bedecked in their splendid chains of office and our very gracious guests from Richmond which included a number of past Richmond presidents, their current President Chris Mills and their distinguished and engaging present Chairman John Heaton.

The Richmond cadre were welcomed by Caldy President Graham who always sets the right tone at lunch. Graham's comedic timing isn't quite up to the same standard as his transport and logistics skills and early in his tenure he wisely cut out any pretence at humour and that sort of thing.

Yesterday our Graham was at his warm and sincere but humourless best, playing the Ernie Wise to Richmond's Eric Morecambe in the form of Richmond President Chris Mills. 

This master of wit and repartee gave one of the most humorous and entertaining of pre match speeches ever enjoyed at Paton Field. Praising the foresight of his 96 year old father (who was sculling red wine on an adjacent table) for bringing him into the world in Wales was a good start and endeared him to a very very small number of Caldy supporters. But soon his lively and sometimes caustically funny wit enveloped all at lunch setting the perfect back drop for a tremendous Caldy performance on the pitch. In his more serious remarks Chris Mills used Rolling Maul as one of his preferred reference points as a predictive guide to the likely close nature of this round 12 fixture. 

Rolling Maul let Chris down.

It was a dominant Caldy performance against a somewhat lack lustre Richmond side that conceded too many penalties and struggled to cope with Caldy's crunching tackling and the physicality of their punishing pack. Caldy racked up 24 points in the best 40 minutes of rugby they have played this season and went in at the break 24-0. The Ravers were dissapointed they couldn't eke out a bonus point but they will be reasonably satisfied with their performance.

In contrast to other posts on round 12 the officiating at Caldy v Richmond was clear, unobtrusive and of a high standard.

Both Chris Mills and John Heaton took the defeat graciously and as I wandered back to my car no one could fail to hear Caldy's external tannoy blasting out Chris Mills' declaration that he was now also a 'Raver' and on behalf of Richmond accepting a boat race challenge against Caldy's man of the match Rhys Hayes and a previous MoM recipient Adam Aigbokhae.

I wouldn't put it past Chris Mills to have restored some pride for Richmond by winning that particular challenge 

Update: I have it on good authority that a guzzling Rhys Hayes completely bested Chris Mills


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Originally posted by Trailfinder Trailfinder wrote:

I thought Ampthill were brilliant today, they were really pumped and we struggled to match their intensity. I feared at one point the wheels were about to fall off our season!



Well said - I was absolutely remiss earlier in not calling out how well Ampthill took their chances. Well done to the Mob for pushing Ealing hard. One bizarre facet of the game was that both teams played better into the very stiff wind. 
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It was a good occasion at BPA, and an exciting occasion, albeit some significant flaws on show. Cov's handling was suspect, with a lot of knock-ons, while the visitors were penalised far too often - I made it approx 19 pens conceded, around twice as many as by the hosts.
The Jersey lineout has been mentioned a few times - from my standpoint it was decent in the first half, with only one lost, but then went downhill after that, towards the levels seen in defeat by Ealing on Xmas Eve.
Fair play to the Reds for having the spirit to come back, while Cov will definitely feel they let one get away. They replaced loose-head and hooker/capt with 5 mins to play, maybe that played a part. Both sides tried to win it in last 2 mins, credit to them for that in being willing to lose 1pt in order to win 3 more.
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I thought Ampthill were brilliant today, they were really pumped and we struggled to match their intensity. I feared at one point the wheels were about to fall off our season!

It seemed we couldn’t catch a break from the ref in the first half, couldn’t tell you if his decisions were mostly wrong or right (I don’t pretend to know what happens at the breakdown!) so I suspect neither team had any advantage. 

One thing I will say though is we need to stop conceding break away tries!! I think that’s three games running?! It nearly killed us today and we got away with it in the end but we might not get so lucky in the crunch games at the end of the season. 

All in all a great game, albeit a nail biter!
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Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

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On balance Cov were the better team today imo and if there were playoffs this season I would fancy them above Ealing. Jersey lineout misfired AGAIN - why the coaches dont have Bain in the squad I'll never know. Great coverage by the RFU - thank you HQ. Both defences were exceptional. Great home crowd - like having a 16th man - Jersey home games used to be like that.
I don't remember Jersey losing a lineout all match. Am I imaging things? Last but one try for Jersey came after a blatant forward pass and I'm not sure how they got a 5m scrum at the end that led to the penalty try. However, Cov should have been home and hosed by then so only ourselves to blame...
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Originally posted by Bedfordian Bedfordian wrote:

Take a chill pill gerg! You haven’t been in this league long enough to say things like that.

Here we go again, 🤔 another Bitter Blue having a pop at Ealing , really ? We’re not at our best but ? It just seems it’s non stop from a very few supporters who just don’t like the New boys on the block stealing their thunder. How long have we got to be around to fit into your criteria? 🇳🇬🇳🇬🤔
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Originally posted by Bedfordian Bedfordian wrote:

Take a chill pill gerg! You haven’t been in this league long enough to say things like that.
  
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Originally posted by Bedfordian Bedfordian wrote:

Take a chill pill gerg! You haven’t been in this league long enough to say things like that.

How long do you have be in this league to make a comment on a referees performance ?. He was incredibly bad....he had a bad day and missed a lot for both teams, offside, forward pass , crooked line outs, injured players laying prone and in severe pain.

Ealing Trailfinders did not fire on all cylinders but this was due to pressure from Ampthill. There were some lack lustre performances from Ealing. 
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Knights 10 - 25 Hartpury 

Hartpury turned up and played we did not. Well done Hartpury 
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Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Sir is horrible.

Is a referee, end of. Both teams have the same 3 officials and, as usual, they cannot to right for doing wrong.  Cool
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Elijah Cadman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jan 2023 at 17:19
Sounds like a poor performance in your view? A premiership referee? Surprised by your comments.  
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Take a chill pill gerg! You haven’t been in this league long enough to say things like that.
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A mighty hard luck, Ampthill. Sounds like a great effort. Well done.
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