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    Posted: 13 Feb 2023 at 16:04
True enough, but some get the juices flowing better than others šŸ˜
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Some nice tries there too
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Some rather pleasant tries in there.
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Trylights for Knights vs Scottish
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote workerbee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Feb 2023 at 09:56
The problem with the B&I cup was that the Scottish and Welsh sides were not interested and the cost of flying to Ireland to take on the Irish districts 2nd XV proved a step too far. That was the reason the cup died. 
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Originally posted by maire23 maire23 wrote:

Bring back the B&I! Have some great memories of B&I trips. 
Brilliant post mate - gets my vote. 
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Originally posted by Cherub Cherub wrote:

I am so weary of reading about what might happen next season. Will the top side go up? Will the Premiership get ring-fenced? Will Worcester play in the Championship? No they won't. Will Wasps play in the Championship? Who knows. How many teams will be promoted from National One? How many sides will compete in The Championship? Or will there be two Premiership leagues consisting of the top 20 placed teams? What funds are available for rock solid clubs like Caldy and Ampthill? It goes on and on and on. The fact that there is such confusion is a disgrace. Rant over.

Recognise many of your concerns Cherub, tho' in your frustration you are asking questions about next season to which the answers are known:

- Will the Prem be ring-fenced? No, not if Ealing win the Champ & their ground's passed as compliant. Update - Ealing's ground non-compliant. So closer to ring-fencing, but not actually there yet
- Will Worcester be in the Champ? No
- How many sides promoted from Nat 1? 1
- Will there be a 2 x 10-team Prem? No, not next season

Still some uncertainties - hopefully one of which (Wasps) may be answered in the week ahead


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The only certainty Cherub is that however badly tiers 1 & 2 are mismanaged, however many professional  (sic) clubs go to the wall, however many rugby creditors remain unpaid, however many rugby supporters have their hearts broken and however many semi-professional and amateur club volunteers are taken advantage of...

No one in the RFU hierarchy will lose their jobs, fall on their sword or even have to face honest questions...

The policy of protecting the business of the RFU (instigated by Ian Ritchie) at the cost of it's member clubs & rugby facing employees MUST end. IMO Sweetnam, Bujalski & Day and especially Borges should all be summarily sacked and lose any benefits including pensions. 

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I am so weary of reading about what might happen next season. Will the top side go up? Will the Premiership get ring-fenced? Will Worcester play in the Championship? No they won't. Will Wasps play in the Championship? Who knows. How many teams will be promoted from National One? How many sides will compete in The Championship? Or will there be two Premiership leagues consisting of the top 20 placed teams? What funds are available for rock solid clubs like Caldy and Ampthill? It goes on and on and on. The fact that there is such confusion is a disgrace. Rant over.
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Sixways Rugby intend to take Stourbridgeā€™s place in National 2. They donā€™t intend to play in the Championship. 
As for Wasps (who I believe will still be called Wasps) thatā€™s a good point. No idea. That said, who knows whatā€™s going on behind the scenes? Granted they wonā€™t have their biggest players but if they can field a couple of teams at Champ standard they should be okay. 

With regards to the Cup- thereā€™s been some interesting results. For instance- Ealing were absolutely shocking when they came to Lady Bay. We were extremely unlucky not to get anything they were that bad. They just looked disinterested and we ran rings around them. I spoke to some of our players after the game and some seemed buoyant as we had ran them that close. If Ealing had played as badly as they did in that one game they would have got precisely nowhere. 

I went down to Vallis Way yesterday knowing we would get destroyed and we duly did. The second half was much better than the first Nottingham wise though- if only because we actually got a decision our way! Easy to win when youā€™ve got 16 men playing for you! Sounds bitter- Iā€™m in no way bitter, it was absolutely expected, we tried our hardest but Ealing are just superior in every way- but that ref was shocking. Even when our fly half went down first with what looked like his knee and then went off with a nasty facial injury (which Iā€™m sure he didnā€™t inflict on himself) Ealing were given the advantage! 

I have to agree with Stalwart though. Bring back the B&I! Have some great memories of B&I trips. 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brizzer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Feb 2023 at 13:17
At risk of hijacking this thread, Iā€™m struggling to see why Wasps and Wuss (or whatever they will be called) would be a threat in the Championship. Unless I am mistaken, at the moment neither side has any players at all. So where will they get them from and what with? If the debt has disappeared, then the other Championship sides should call foul and they should be made to start from the bottom of the pyramid. If the debt has been cleared, then how will they be able to afford to muster squads good enough to compete at the top of the Championship?
As much as I find some Championship clubs relying on PL loan/DR players to compete annoying, I understand why they have done it and I think that this is the most competitive the division has been in years.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote workerbee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Feb 2023 at 12:14
That is true also but perhaps the new proposed format of 2 x 10 Premiership sides will resolve that , with the second league having entry criteria and both leagues getting good funding from the RFU. I would think the Prem 2 league would include Ealing, Doncaster, Coventry, Pirates, Jersey, Bedford, Wasps, plus one from the premiership. All clubs fully professional with no relegation unless the winner of Nat 1 (Championship) can satisfy Prem 2 criteria. 
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Originally posted by workerbee workerbee wrote:

The results certainly highlight how pointless the Cup is. We can say that there are only 5/6 teams that can ever win the cup, Ealing, Jersey Pirates, Doncaster, Coventry, Bedford. All the others are simply resting players for the remaining league season and becoming cannon fodder for the top teams. 

So why a cup competition in the first place. The logic seems to be a small league of 12 to have a bigger cut of RFU money which this year was £140k  less £40k insurance. If it had been a 14 team league then the share would have been £120k but two more home league games which would have brought in more that the £20k lost in the share out, and the games would have remained competitive. However those clubs, who rely on DR's from the Premiership would have been affected by The premiership cup and Internationals  when these players are called back. 

I take your point, but surely there are only a few teams who can win the league as well - does that make it a pointless competition? Pirates have a small (in numbers) squad and are struggling a bit in the league this season as we rebuild. Therefore the cup has become quite important for us. Yesterday a few players who don't get regular starts in the league games were able to show what they can do. Having said that this competition doesn't compare to the old B and I cup, which was great fun.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote workerbee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Feb 2023 at 09:55
The results certainly highlight how pointless the Cup is. We can say that there are only 5/6 teams that can ever win the cup, Ealing, Jersey Pirates, Doncaster, Coventry, Bedford. All the others are simply resting players for the remaining league season and becoming cannon fodder for the top teams. 

So why a cup competition in the first place. The logic seems to be a small league of 12 to have a bigger cut of RFU money which this year was £140k  less £40k insurance. If it had been a 14 team league then the share would have been £120k but two more home league games which would have brought in more that the £20k lost in the share out, and the games would have remained competitive. However those clubs, who rely on DR's from the Premiership would have been affected by The premiership cup and Internationals  when these players are called back. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brizzer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2023 at 22:09
Wow! Not a day to be on the road in the Championship Cup today with the home teams winning by an aggregated 222 - 55 ā€¦. Ouch!
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Ealing 71  (BP) - Notts 14 (2T) FT - Uzokwe gets another. Editing post as final score was shown wrong on scoreboard.

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Ealing 66 (BP) - Notts 14 (2T)  - Nottingham scores after a long break frkm a quick tap, again.

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Ealing 66 (BP) - Notts 7 (1T) - 66' Bodilly chips from 30meters and dives on the ball to score. 
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