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Originally posted by Neasham Neasham wrote:

Did they make that information available to the clubs and supporters? I can’t find any mention other than there are pools st the higher level and knock-out games ar level 7 and below 
I don't think it was explicitly spelt out, but if you looked at the suggested/ indicative draw in the original document it was clear that this was the plan.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Robb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Mar 2023 at 14:17
Originally posted by Neasham Neasham wrote:

Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

They split the draw North and South, so Alnwick was not going to be drawn against Camborne.

But the downside of "you are going to play different opponents" is "you are going to trek halfway across the country" or at least outside the region your league covers.



Did they make that information available to the clubs and supporters? I can’t find any mention other than there are pools st the higher level and knock-out games ar level 7 and below 

Yes they did. It was in that draft that they put out at the start of the season.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Neasham Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Mar 2023 at 13:53
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

They split the draw North and South, so Alnwick was not going to be drawn against Camborne.

But the downside of "you are going to play different opponents" is "you are going to trek halfway across the country" or at least outside the region your league covers.



Did they make that information available to the clubs and supporters? I can’t find any mention other than there are pools st the higher level and knock-out games ar level 7 and below 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Mar 2023 at 13:41
They split the draw North and South, so Alnwick was not going to be drawn against Camborne.

But the downside of "you are going to play different opponents" is "you are going to trek halfway across the country" or at least outside the region your league covers.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Neasham Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Mar 2023 at 13:35
Originally posted by kempstonblue kempstonblue wrote:

Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

We have 56 of the 72 teams,
I assume that the other 16 have chosen not to enter, due mainly to the distances involved.
Originally, 62 were said to have entered, so another six have pulled out.

What I see most teams are playing teams from a neighbouring region. Yes some travel, but clubs have a choice, which I guess is a part of player welfare?

Well regionalisation seems sensible but why don’t the RFU set out the parameters for how the draws are being made? How many clubs have been put off entering because they fear an away draw(s)  which would involve a long round trip and a big bill from the coach company even with a subsidy. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kempstonblue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Mar 2023 at 13:26
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

We have 56 of the 72 teams,
I assume that the other 16 have chosen not to enter, due mainly to the distances involved.
Originally, 62 were said to have entered, so another six have pulled out.

What I see most teams are playing teams from a neighbouring region. Yes some travel, but clubs have a choice, which I guess is a part of player welfare?
The older I get, the more the RFU leave me confused.
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Apparently the other Draws are now being made on Monday
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Mar 2023 at 11:24
We have 56 of the 72 teams,
I assume that the other 16 have chosen not to enter, due mainly to the distances involved.
Originally, 62 were said to have entered, so another six have pulled out.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cobbler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Mar 2023 at 11:12
Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Some chunky journeys there - Dudley KW to Alnwick stands out = not much change out of 500 miles! 
Yes it was bad enough for the 2 South Notts clubs (Paviors and West Bridgford) to have to travel there in the league, DK is a fair bit further (but they will almost certainly be travelling to Redruth next season so good practice!).

I have heard Bournemouth have pulled out not fancying the short hop to Burton. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MikeGC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Mar 2023 at 09:50
This draw only includes the top 10 Clubs in Regional 1 North West.
Is there a further link with more fixtures ?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Mar 2023 at 09:05
What were people expecting, England to suddenly concertina closer together for spring?
It is no wonder some of the more remote clubs pulled out.
I think it is the top seven from Regional 1 South West.

Weston to Brighton is not an easy journey - only 200 miles, but it will take over 4 hours each way.
And there are several others that will take over three hours and involve the M25 past Heathrow on a Saturday, well known for its flowing traffic.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote islander Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Mar 2023 at 07:36
Some chunky journeys there - Dudley KW to Alnwick stands out = not much change out of 500 miles! 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote carlos fandango Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Mar 2023 at 07:03
Cheers. WSM would have been a good road trip. Shame we're home. Though I'm sure our treasurer will disagree.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Robb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Mar 2023 at 22:56
Originally posted by carlos fandango carlos fandango wrote:

The link seems broken, or is that the joke?


Try that.

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The link seems broken, or is that the joke?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Robb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Mar 2023 at 17:54
Quite a few pull outs i've noticed. Even the teams at the bottom in the bowl have gone straight to knockout!
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https://www.rfulondon.com/node/82

The draw is out


Edited by HAVANT TONY - 14 Mar 2023 at 17:06
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PiffPaff Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2023 at 11:28
It gets worse.....

All the County Championships Finals (Div.2, Div. 3 and U20) apart from the Bill Beaumont Mens Div.1 Final & the Gill Burns Womens Div. 1 finals will be played at the Stadio Della Ealing in June!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Mark W-J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2023 at 09:43
It's the irony of the governing body calling it 'prestigious' while Premier Rugby basically claim It's not fit for purpose.
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Originally posted by PiffPaff PiffPaff wrote:

Just been told the prestigious venue is......

Ealing.... and I'm not kidding.

You must be joking.......

The Stoop, Welford Road, even the Rec people would love to have taken. But you cannot ever call Trailfinders Sports Ground "prestigious" (and that's not a slight against Ealing)
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