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New Signings and Retentions 23-24 - Event Date: 01 May 2023
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Ben Atkins to Rams. Another new edition for next season, and competition in the back row will be fierce! Haven't seen him play before, guessing he was a Prem Cup player and didn't feature in the Prem itself very often. His brother Jacob was a decent fly half for Irish and Rams, think he has gone abroad to play in Italy now.
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Ben Atkins a great back row signing. Irish had offered him a contract while he finished his degree. Played a lot for Esher last season and was usually outstanding. Disappointed that he has gone to Rams and not back to Esher.
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Experienced hooker Oli Taylor re-signs for the Leicester Lions, played 218 games for the club, he has Championship experience with Nottingham.

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Openside flanker Johnny Murdoch re-signs for the Lions a 236 cap veteran
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In the front row, Mose sign Ben Betts from Nottingham and Lewis Holsey from Bedford.
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Looks like some clubs are splashing the cash this season. I’m assuming with the demise of LI, Worcester/Wasps means that it’s a buyers market?
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Only if the clubs have money to spend.
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or if they feel their squad wasn't quite good enough.
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Originally posted by tigerburnie tigerburnie wrote:

or if they feel their squad wasn't quite good enough.
Given the competitiveness of the league last year, that makes this season a very interesting proposition indeed.
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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

Only if the clubs have money to spend.
LOLWhen has that ever stopped a rugby club from spending?
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Originally posted by jimbojetset jimbojetset wrote:

Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

Only if the clubs have money to spend.
LOLWhen has that ever stopped a rugby club from spending?

I would suggest outside the Premiership and Championship quite often.


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Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

Originally posted by jimbojetset jimbojetset wrote:

Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

Only if the clubs have money to spend.
LOLWhen has that ever stopped a rugby club from spending?

I would suggest outside the Premiership and Championship quite often.
Really? I would suggest South Leicester, Old Elthamians would prove that statement as not totally accurate. Plenty of clubs spend more than they bring in, because they have one or two big spending sugar daddies. It's not just the Prem and Champ clubs. Sustainability is a massive issue in rugby and I would suggest the issue of lack of sustainability runs far deeper than just the Prem or Champ clubs.
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The opposite can also have an effect don’t spend enough suffer the consequences, find the tipping point
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I guess those striving for promotion will have a different agenda to those not, Leicester Lions had a 5 year plan to get to Nat 1, that included recruiting experienced players to strengthen the squad and build a team. I don't know, but I am guessing the next 5 year plan will not include promotion to Prem2/Championship this season.
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James Stubbs Lions scrum half re-signs for the Lions for the coming season
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Originally posted by jimbojetset jimbojetset wrote:

Looks like some clubs are splashing the cash this season. I’m assuming with the demise of LI, Worcester/Wasps means that it’s a buyers market?

It looks like it's helping us to cherry pick in order to strengthen. 

One of the most pleasing things - virtually unheard of for a Moseley fan in recent years - is the level of continuity we're managing this season with last season's squad. 

I still maintain we had a very good but too small squad last season, and carried too many injuries to key players for too much of the season. 

Tables don't lie, but if the dice had rolled slightly differently I reckon we'd have done a lot better with broadly the same players as we had. We wouldn't have won the league, but I can see a scenario where we were well clear of needing to look over our shoulder. 

Which was the most frustrating thing about last season - flashes of brilliance from the backs, and a pack that could contend with anyone, punctuated by yet more broken bones and players all-at-sea well out of position through necessity.


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Rams sign another young London Irish player, again not seen him play but he's an England U19 and was on loan at Barnes last season, who did well trying to keep pace with Blackheath in N2E from memory so sure he'll be fine at Nat 1 level.
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I think you signed a Barnes player, who may well be able to step up.

Being in the academy gives an aura, but does not mean they are ever going to be good enough for the Premiership.

I am also not sure if England U19 or U20 is any better.
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Indeed, if he is playing in Nat 2 at 19 and keeps fit I'd hazard that he could have a promising future ahead of him, sadly not at Irish, but in the semi-pro domain nevertheless. 

The more the merrier with regards squad size as you'll know, injuries can mount, and having the quality in depth could be the difference between securing one more draw than the nearest competition in the league, and thus getting promoted when all is said and done Wink
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Inside centre Jamel Hamilton re-signs for the Lions, a product of the Northampton Saints academy, he's played 117 games for the Lions since joining
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