Jersey Reds - Administration???

Thatbloke wrote: I have to agree totally with Fly-Half and Sid James. Clubs are totally over-staffed in every area. Players, coaches, back-room staff. First job - get rid of the ridiculous 23man match day squads - it's a pantomine last half hour in every game with players trooping on and off every two minutes. Surely 19 or 20 with Interchanges would work perfectly well and negate the need for 50+ squads. Ok some players will become unemployed (or go part-time) - welcome to the real world! Second job - why is it necessary to have DoR, then Head Coach, Forwards coach, Backs coach, Scrum coach, Line out coach, Kicking coach, Attack coach, Defence coach, Shoe-Lace tying coach, Video analysts- It's laughable!  Third job - Doctor, Team of Physios, Strength and Conditioning people Playing at Premier League Football clubs with a fraction of the income It's not rocket science is it?

Edited by billesleyexile - 12 Oct 2023 at 14:32

I accept that there will be a few youngsters on "placements" in various areas of the game as part of their professional development but the notion that full time Premiership and Championship clubs are run by a gang of volunteers is somewhat fanciful to say the least. Surely the job of a Forwards coach would involve the core basics - scrum, line out, breakdown. Why is there a need for a specialist for every category? I don't blame the individuals for taking the jobs when offered but sooner or later, too many examples to list, the money will run out! Common sense and sound financial management should be at the core of every business, sport or otherwise. Why does RU think it's different in some way? 

James Mitchell: Ex-Reds scrum-half takes on Jersey RFC coaching role - BBC Sport

Rugby League are not exempt, Newcastle Thunder are expected to fold today after their investors pulled the plug. 

cheshire exile wrote: Richard Lowther wrote: Rugby League are not exempt, Newcastle Thunder are expected to fold today after their investors pulled the plug.  And of course London Skolars recently folded.

Sid James wrote: Bedford Bear wrote: Thatbloke wrote: I have to agree totally with Fly-Half and Sid James. Clubs are totally over-staffed in every area. Players, coaches, back-room staff. First job - get rid of the ridiculous 23man match day squads - it's a pantomine last half hour in every game with players trooping on and off every two minutes. Surely 19 or 20 with Interchanges would work perfectly well and negate the need for 50+ squads. Ok some players will become unemployed (or go part-time) - welcome to the real world! Second job - why is it necessary to have DoR, then Head Coach, Forwards coach, Backs coach, Scrum coach, Line out coach, Kicking coach, Attack coach, Defence coach, Shoe-Lace tying coach, Video analysts- It's laughable!  Third job - Doctor, Team of Physios, Strength and Conditioning people Playing at Premier League Football clubs with a fraction of the income It's not rocket science is it?    "Staffed" or volunteers and internships in many cases to gain experiences! From my experiences many of the positions you quote aren't paid jobs Oh come on. Every Club has it's volunteers but that is not what we are talking about here. Most Championship clubs are massively over staffed on and off the field. We are concerned with where all of the money is going and why Championship Clubs need so much money to simply exist rather than break even.

cheshire exile wrote: Sid James wrote: Bedford Bear wrote: Thatbloke wrote: I have to agree totally with Fly-Half and Sid James. Clubs are totally over-staffed in every area. Players, coaches, back-room staff. First job - get rid of the ridiculous 23man match day squads - it's a pantomine last half hour in every game with players trooping on and off every two minutes. Surely 19 or 20 with Interchanges would work perfectly well and negate the need for 50+ squads. Ok some players will become unemployed (or go part-time) - welcome to the real world! Second job - why is it necessary to have DoR, then Head Coach, Forwards coach, Backs coach, Scrum coach, Line out coach, Kicking coach, Attack coach, Defence coach, Shoe-Lace tying coach, Video analysts- It's laughable!  Third job - Doctor, Team of Physios, Strength and Conditioning people Playing at Premier League Football clubs with a fraction of the income It's not rocket science is it?    "Staffed" or volunteers and internships in many cases to gain experiences! From my experiences many of the positions you quote aren't paid jobs Oh come on. Every Club has it's volunteers but that is not what we are talking about here. Most Championship clubs are massively over staffed on and off the field. We are concerned with where all of the money is going and why Championship Clubs need so much money to simply exist rather than break even. I’m sure we all defer to your detailed knowledge of employee details at Championship clubs.

gerg_861 wrote: Richard Lowther wrote: cheshire exile wrote: Richard Lowther wrote: Rugby League are not exempt, Newcastle Thunder are expected to fold today after their investors pulled the plug.  And of course London Skolars recently folded. Have they? I just thought they had dropped out of the League 1 and intend to play in the Southern Conference next season.   Either way it shows the perilous state of both codes especially as there are rumours that Toulouse RL who are playing off for a SuperLeague place are on the verge of running out of money.  Key point to be made here that NewCastle Falcons owner also owned Thunder.

SK 88 wrote: gerg_861 wrote: Richard Lowther wrote: cheshire exile wrote: Richard Lowther wrote: Rugby League are not exempt, Newcastle Thunder are expected to fold today after their investors pulled the plug.  And of course London Skolars recently folded. Have they? I just thought they had dropped out of the League 1 and intend to play in the Southern Conference next season.   Either way it shows the perilous state of both codes especially as there are rumours that Toulouse RL who are playing off for a SuperLeague place are on the verge of running out of money.  Key point to be made here that NewCastle Falcons owner also owned Thunder.   Not wanting to split hairs, but the Falcons owned Thunder as a wholly owned subsidiary, it wasn't a separate company also owned by Kurdi. Notably Kingston Park is a legally separate company from the Falcons.

Edited by maire23 - 15 Oct 2023 at 13:17

SK 88 wrote: Bedford Bear wrote: Not as I understood it.  There was loan funding and tax payers money used for grant funding. Well you have misunderstood then.  There were no grants to UK clubs.