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    Posted: 21 Dec 2023 at 21:41
Originally posted by Paul10 Paul10 wrote:

Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

Maybe Gooley is looking to subsidise his pocket, just saw the latest accounts show:

Potential profit of at least £134,033, can't imagine dividends are paid

Sponsorship from Trailfinders £4,270,440

Charitable gifts from The Mike Gooley Trailfinders Charity of £3,397,448

That is a net expenditure by Mike Gooley of over £7.5m, before other income which you would think would be over 4 times what Jersey's budget was.


My guess would be that much of this is on ground improvements, and/or preparation for them. The playing squad is big, but there is no way the expenditure on it is anything like £4m based on what I have heard from players.

There's no growth in Assets so it's operating costs meaning players, coaches and facilties.

Ealing has a women's squad as well. They're pro aren't they?

The whole cost of the women's squad is capped at 190k/annum. I'm sure that there are considerable coaching costs, and expenses, but it doesn't come close to touching the men's squad.
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Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

Maybe Gooley is looking to subsidise his pocket, just saw the latest accounts show:

Potential profit of at least £134,033, can't imagine dividends are paid

Sponsorship from Trailfinders £4,270,440

Charitable gifts from The Mike Gooley Trailfinders Charity of £3,397,448

That is a net expenditure by Mike Gooley of over £7.5m, before other income which you would think would be over 4 times what Jersey's budget was.


My guess would be that much of this is on ground improvements, and/or preparation for them. The playing squad is big, but there is no way the expenditure on it is anything like £4m based on what I have heard from players.

There's no growth in Assets so it's operating costs meaning players, coaches and facilties.

Ealing has a women's squad as well. They're pro aren't they?
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Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

Maybe Gooley is looking to subsidise his pocket, just saw the latest accounts show:

Potential profit of at least £134,033, can't imagine dividends are paid

Sponsorship from Trailfinders £4,270,440

Charitable gifts from The Mike Gooley Trailfinders Charity of £3,397,448

That is a net expenditure by Mike Gooley of over £7.5m, before other income which you would think would be over 4 times what Jersey's budget was.


My guess would be that much of this is on ground improvements, and/or preparation for them. The playing squad is big, but there is no way the expenditure on it is anything like £4m based on what I have heard from players.
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Originally posted by KnightsBoy KnightsBoy wrote:

Originally posted by *Stalwart *Stalwart wrote:

Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Ealing season ticketholdrrs were given a window  today to buy tickets to the semi vs. Tigers. Some consternation though as we were not given the option to book our usual seats, and instead they go to Leicester fans or PRL bigwigs. Quite pricey too, with best seats at £75, regular seated £40.

That is shocking - how to alienate your loyal fans in one easy lesson.
Maybe it wasn't the Ealing Hierarchys decision to do it like this, feel for the Ealing faithful though.


Apparently it was out of Ealing's hands the RFU and Premiership said they needed all the best seating for their use first. Of course this is where a majority of the season ticket holders sit.

Now the cost of the tickets is another matter and where I suspect the club are trying to cash in. The irony is the Early Bird email was trying to drum up support for Ealing saying how well Leicester travel and how we need us there to be vocal for our club, whilst telling us to not sit in our usual seats and pay over twice the price for the privilege. As gerg mentioned this has gone down like a lead balloon.
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Maybe Gooley is looking to subsidise his pocket, just saw the latest accounts show:

Potential profit of at least £134,033, can't imagine dividends are paid

Sponsorship from Trailfinders £4,270,440

Charitable gifts from The Mike Gooley Trailfinders Charity of £3,397,448

That is a net expenditure by Mike Gooley of over £7.5m, before other income which you would think would be over 4 times what Jersey's budget was.
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Originally posted by *Stalwart *Stalwart wrote:

Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Ealing season ticketholdrrs were given a window  today to buy tickets to the semi vs. Tigers. Some consternation though as we were not given the option to book our usual seats, and instead they go to Leicester fans or PRL bigwigs. Quite pricey too, with best seats at £75, regular seated £40.

That is shocking - how to alienate your loyal fans in one easy lesson.
Maybe it wasn't the Ealing Hierarchys decision to do it like this, feel for the Ealing faithful though.
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Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Ealing season ticketholdrrs were given a window  today to buy tickets to the semi vs. Tigers. Some consternation though as we were not given the option to book our usual seats, and instead they go to Leicester fans or PRL bigwigs. Quite pricey too, with best seats at £75, regular seated £40.

That is shocking - how to alienate your loyal fans in one easy lesson.
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Ealing season ticketholdrrs were given a window  today to buy tickets to the semi vs. Tigers. Some consternation though as we were not given the option to book our usual seats, and instead they go to Leicester fans or PRL bigwigs. Quite pricey too, with best seats at £75, regular seated £40.
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Originally posted by oneagainstthehead oneagainstthehead wrote:

Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Much to my almost complete shock, Ealing (and Pirates) have both been awarded 20-0, 4 try walkovers for the Jersey games. This means that Ealing will host a semi-final against Leicester Tigers on Sunday 18th February at 1500, which will be televised live on TNT Sports. This determination also make Ealing top seeds (24 pool points, 5 wins, and PD of 99), so if they should happen to win that match, then they would also ensure a home cup final. 
On a ground that’s supposedly unsuitable for Premiership rugby? At least no one can accuse the RFU of lacking a sense of irony …

Well - Ealing's comms say that we're hosting the match on Twitter and their website, but Tigers says 'time and venue TBC', so let's see what happens. Given that we have 4 months, I'd like to think that this is the perfect opportunity for Ealing to push their planning permission, or even just attempt to get temporary permission to bring in stands to get the capacity up for the match. Tigers have a notoriously large following, so I could see this being a sell out at 5k (or am I dreaming?).
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Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Much to my almost complete shock, Ealing (and Pirates) have both been awarded 20-0, 4 try walkovers for the Jersey games. This means that Ealing will host a semi-final against Leicester Tigers on Sunday 18th February at 1500, which will be televised live on TNT Sports. This determination also make Ealing top seeds (24 pool points, 5 wins, and PD of 99), so if they should happen to win that match, then they would also ensure a home cup final. 
On a ground that’s supposedly unsuitable for Premiership rugby? At least no one can accuse the RFU of lacking a sense of irony …
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Much to my almost complete shock, Ealing (and Pirates) have both been awarded 20-0, 4 try walkovers for the Jersey games. This means that Ealing will host a semi-final against Leicester Tigers on Sunday 18th February at 1500, which will be televised live on TNT Sports. This determination also make Ealing top seeds (24 pool points, 5 wins, and PD of 99), so if they should happen to win that match, then they would also ensure a home cup final. 
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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

The regulations seem to permit the organisers to come to whichever decision they want.
So if they want to deny Ealing a home semi-final, they will award no points.
Cynical moi.
Cynical, yes. Almost certainly right? Yes.
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The regulations seem to permit the organisers to come to whichever decision they want.
So if they want to deny Ealing a home semi-final, they will award no points.
Cynical moi.
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As I posted earlier on another thread.. Eurosport.com were reporting that the Prem cup rules stated that should a team fail to play a game due to "unforeseen circumstances" the result would be deemed a 0-0 draw but I haven't seen that elsewhere.
Seems a bit odd that you would earn 2 points for not turning up!
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Originally posted by oneagainstthehead oneagainstthehead wrote:

Has anyone heard anything about a decision on how Jersey’s cancelled cup fixtures are being handled? Precedent seems to suggest that a bonus point win will be awarded to the affected teams. If that proves to be the case, Ealing Trailfinders are likely to go into the semifinals as top seeds. I bet the Premiership didn’t see that coming!


I guess we have to wait until the committee meets,  as usual.
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Originally posted by oneagainstthehead oneagainstthehead wrote:

Has anyone heard anything about a decision on how Jersey’s cancelled cup fixtures are being handled? Precedent seems to suggest that a bonus point win will be awarded to the affected teams. If that proves to be the case, Ealing Trailfinders are likely to go into the semifinals as top seeds. I bet the Premiership didn’t see that coming!

I saw a lot of Tigers fans moaning about not picking a better team to play Blues, as they will likely be going away to Ealing now when they could have had a home semi.

In the past they have either given a 20 - 0 Bp win, but I also think they have stripped results against Jersey. I imagine it will be the former to have all clubs with 5 games.
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Has anyone heard anything about a decision on how Jersey’s cancelled cup fixtures are being handled? Precedent seems to suggest that a bonus point win will be awarded to the affected teams. If that proves to be the case, Ealing Trailfinders are likely to go into the semifinals as top seeds. I bet the Premiership didn’t see that coming!
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Pretty much 1st teamers but with 4 DR’d with Blues last year.

15 George Furbank (c)
14 James Ramm
13 Fraser Dingwall
12 Rory Hutchinson
11 Tom Seabrook
10 Fin Smith
9 Archie McParland

1 Alex Waller
2 Curtis Langdon
3 Trevor Davison
4 Alex Moon
5 Chunya Munga
6 Tom Lockett
7 Tom Pearson
8 Sam Graham

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16 Robbie Smith
17 Ethan Waller
18 Elliot Millar Mills
19 Emeka Atuanya
20 Angus Scott-Young
21 Tom James
22 Joel Matavesi
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Originally posted by KnightsBoy KnightsBoy wrote:

Saints 63 Knights 12
Saints 82 Knights 12

Tough tough day
What kind of strength did Saints field today?
It's kinda hard to judge some of these results.
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Saints 63 Knights 12
Saints 82 Knights 12

Tough tough day


Edited by KnightsBoy - 08 Oct 2023 at 16:21
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