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Camquin 
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 Posted: 26 Nov 2023 at 16:35 |
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Yes, but at National 2 you are only permitted four players, of which three can be loan players and the rest England Academy Players. At National 1 you are permitted three loans plus up to six EAPs. And in the Championship, three loans and nine EAPs. In the National leagues, the EAPs must play for the recipient club before the transfer deadline. But that does not apply in the Championship. |
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Stuartnottingham
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Joined: 11 Sep 2022 Location: Nottingham Status: Offline Points: 40 |
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 12:17 |
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Far too many players dropping in and out of clubs in the Championship . Personally I don't mind longer term loan players who need to play . Difficult to go straight into the Tigers first team. I do object to what happened to Richmond. I met their Director of Rugby a couple of times and he seemed a decent chap . Now he has of course lost his job following relegation. London Scottish beat Nottingham at the end of the season to stay up and it was basically a Harlequins team.
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Camquin
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 13:15 |
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This is the Scottish side that played Nottingham at the start of the season, and whether they played in the last match. Charlie Ingall → bench Noah Ferdinand → dropped Brynmor Bradley → dropped Robbie McCallum → dropped Joshua Gillespie → dropped Jamie Benson → dropped Luca Petrozzi → bench Fin Baxter → dropped Sam Riley → dropped Joe Rees → starter Matas Jurevicius → starter Matthew Wilkinson → dropped Brian Tuilagi → dropped William Trenholm → starter Cameron King → starter Elliot Chilvers → dropped William Hobson → dropped Angus Southon → bench Villiami Taulani → bench Dan Nutton → starter Zach Clow → dropped Cassius Cleaves → starter So 13 new players Starters Cameron Anderson Luke Mehson Lennox Anyanwu Hayden Hyde Nathan Chamberlain Will Prior Jack Musk Bailey Ranson Jack Ingall Bench Nathan Jibulu Rhys Charalambous Rhys Litterick Connor Slevin The thing I noticed was at least two of the dropped players, Benson and Hobson are Quins academy, both have played for Cambridge this season. I assume Scottish were inside the regulations, or Richmond would surely have objected to unregistered players.
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KnightsBoy
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 13:34 |
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Attendance at Donny for the LS game was 2264, however a question on our forum as been asked if these were all paying fans, or were freeby tickets in the total.
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Paul10
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 13:35 |
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I think Rhys Litterick plays for Cardiff now.
Winning try on Friday night. Aah. Last season. Ignore me....
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BigChief
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 13:37 |
and Richmond did not beat too many teams that season either.....
Had they done so they would have pulled clear but they didn't - that was their own doing and cant be laid at the door of any other team. |
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Stuartnottingham
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 15:44 |
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Friday, 28 April 2023The Championship  London Scottish Scottish only won 4 games all season and 3 of those were the last 3 when they had a ton of harlequins players parachuted in . I watched the last game and it was not London Scottish who played. Richmond are a community club and even though they didn’t win many games I don’t think you can ignore what happened at Scottish. |
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Se7en
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 16:27 |
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I am with you on this Stuartnottingham. I remember thinking at the time that what unfolded at the end of last year's Champ season didn't sit right with me.
What ever happened to clubs developing from within, investing in mini, junior, girls and colt sections to keep the future of their club bright and sustainable? I don't know what the setup at LS is, and how many of their Champ squad came through the ranks from junior to adult rugby. I suspect it is very few. For those that say it isn't possible at Level 2, I would say look at Caldy RFC, where rhe vast majority of their squad have played together for years, a good number of which started playing as youngsters and have taken that club to somewhere no one would have thought possible years ago. Is all of this a bit idealistic and old fashioned on my part, probably, but the fact remains that the Champ remains this mix of traditional clubs trying to keep afloat alongside the more commercial squads ultimately being run as businesses. As I've said before, it is a bit like a middle ground between the fully pro Prem and semi-pro Nat 1 and whilst it remains this way, it will always have issues around clubs doing whatever is necessary to prevent relegation, as was the case with Scottish last season. This is not the fault of Scottish or any other club in their position as they haven't done anthring wrong or underhand in terms of the rules in place. It is the rules themselves that could probably do with a rethink and the Champ clubs coming together to determine what sort of league they want to be a part of. Likewise, Nat 1 is increasingly mirroring the Champ, with several clubs relying on DR/loan players to fill their starting XVs.
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Greg
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 16:59 |
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Who remembers Leeds jetting in a significant number of New Zealanders to rescue them from the drop a couple of years ago? It was a short-lived success and Leeds were relegated the following season.
The Leeds 'club' are still stigmatised by many for that sharp practice.
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gerg_861
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 18:40 |
Really ruined some lives if I remember correctly, getting folks across with the promise of long term contracts, then abandoning them.
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The Blues
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Posted: 29 Nov 2023 at 22:29 |
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Blues tries https://youtu.be/8dJk4VXFYlw?si=2PqkFYtbXq086axY
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