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WEvans 
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Frankly the day you ask this Government for help is the day you might as well give up all hope.
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Big Eddie
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Posted: 10 May 2024 at 12:18 |
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I have just read the article in the Telegraph about Harvey Biljon and the glass ceiling that sits above not only Championship Clubs and Championship players but also Championship coaches.
This is all depressingly familiar. There does not seem to be any desire by either the RFU or the current Premiership clubs to create a realistic pathway through the rugby pyramid up into the elite game. The schism in the game between the elite (10 clubs and the RFU Executive) and the rest of the game appears to be no closer to a solution because there doesn't appear to be the will or the desire from the tiny minority in the elite game to create this pathway. As I read this article, the statement from Cornish Pirates' Dicky Evans and the depressingly lack of any real constructive or progressive engagement between the RFU/Premiership and the Championship it appears to me that the only reason that the elite game is participating at all is to avoid directly snubbing the game at large with all of the bad PR that would create. I don't know when or how this farce will end but if there isn't the proper prospect of promotion and relegation with a fair meritocracy the game will not survive
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islander
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Posted: 10 May 2024 at 09:58 |
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Agree, not good news. When you read this bit: Bow has described the response of the MPs contacted as “very positive”. you think “well of course MPs were positive, they want you to vote for them in forthcoming election”. Pretty sure the Tories were making very positive noises about getting the Stadium for Cornwall built ahead of 2019 election?
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Posted: 10 May 2024 at 09:56 |
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That does not sound like constructive negotiations. More like "full and frank".
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Sweeney Delenda Est
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Posted: 10 May 2024 at 06:54 |
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Posted: 08 May 2024 at 17:28 |
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It doesn't say he agrees with the current min criteria just some form of.
I think most would agree there needs to be min standards for each level above probably L4 just the current ones for the prem are stupidly OTT to deliberately create a barrier and are also not even applied to those already in.
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Richard Lowther
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Posted: 08 May 2024 at 13:55 |
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"There will be no relegation this season but Diamond believes that kind of jeopardy is vital for the future of the Premiership – if the top Championship club satisfies the criteria put in place. He added: “My experience as an advisor is that one of the biggest hurdles is the criteria but you have to have a minimum criteria and I do welcome promotion and relegation. Not many people in my shoes would say that because it gives you another bit of motivation with the jeopardy of it. I am on a honeymoon at the moment because I can’t go down.” “If the clubs, and there are probably half a dozen clubs who would want to come up, if they fit the criteria of the minimum standards by all means invest in the team like the Premiership have and give it a crack." He still favours two of the major obstacles to a free gangway between the leagues - minimum standards and a play-off. Both are in place to tilt the playing field in favour of underperforming Premiership clubs rather than successful Championship clubs. Edited by Richard Lowther - 08 May 2024 at 13:56 |
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WEvans
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Pay the rugby creditors, stick two fingers up to everyone else they owe and welcome them back into the Championship. No thanks. Why pollute the Championship with clubs with no morals or integrity?
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Posted: 08 May 2024 at 10:37 |
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Steve Diamond with the verbal diarrhea.
Ignore the headline on the click there's a lot more in the article.
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Traditionally Blues have lower attendance figures in September due to people still taking holidays, so the later start may benefit clubs with attendance figures. Although we miss a month of better pitches.
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Posted: 03 May 2024 at 18:13 |
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.....or watch / play cricket
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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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Oh the logic of the RFU. I prefer Rugby season to start first weekend of September. As mentioned elsewhere they want a pro league. Yet September 1, 8 and 15 the casual supporter might start watching another rugby club or worse football which might have three more weeks August 10, 17 and 24 to entice the casual supporters. No doubt someone in the RFU knows what they are doing, sadly that person is a minority figure.
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The older I get, the more the RFU leave me confused.
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I believe the logic behind the Championship league fixture scheduling is so they mirror the Premiership so that both leagues finish at the same time to allow for the play off to take place the week after, Should the league winners reach the Premier criteria, which will not happen this year.
I believe next season the league will not start until September 22 and run until end of May 25, not sure when the Prem/ Championship Cup is scheduled presumably during International breaks either in November or February / March.
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I agree it's a bit weird. They did it in N1/N2 this season too, seemingly in a bid to ensure that any lingering make-up games were scheduled before the final round of games, that way ensuring that all 56 clubs played their last game at the same time. Altho' the same doesn't exactly apply in Champ, with 1 of the round 22 games being on the Friday night and one club (Cov) having a bye week...
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Posted: 03 May 2024 at 08:02 |
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Cannot figure out
Round 20 this weekend Round 21 next weekend Week after break Round 22 Bank Holiday weekend. Why a weeks gap between Round 21 and 22? |
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The older I get, the more the RFU leave me confused.
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When the League has no relegation there is no consequence. Promotion and relegation is INTEGRAL to any league in this country. |
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I could have been a contender.
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Well bigmalc you will have lots of Nat 1 games in Bristol next year with Dings Crusaders coming up
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So many Christians not enough Lions
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Bigmalc
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I watched a Championship side yesterday - unfortunately it was Newcastle getting a kicking from Bristol . It could ( and should) have been 100 points and although applauded by the Bris faithful was not what I expect for my £30plus.
Like an earlier poster I am drawn towards Nat 2 where the standard is excellent, the admission reasonable and the clubhouses generally welcoming.
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Kimbo
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Posted: 22 Apr 2024 at 09:10 |
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Testing Challenger 3s?
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You could have a sponsored shuttle with off road ability. This reminded me of a charity ( fishing for forces )to get disabled ex military to the river banks for fishing .
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Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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