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FHLH
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Posted: 09 Feb 2024 at 01:59 |
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Pro/Semi Pro are run/played by paid staff and watched by fans
Amateur clubs are run by volunteers and watched by supporters (and 1st XV pay subscriptions)
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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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Sid James
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Well said BP Youth. Years ago, a rugby club was a rugby club. We had no need to distinguish between the present day community clubs, who have various mens/womens senior teams, mini junior sections, volunteers, who give something back to the game and, those clubs who simply fund a 1stXV squad and live/exist off the back of players produced by the community clubs.
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BP Youth
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In the context of the article it may have been better if Joe had said the leading community club in Yorkshire, rather than amateur, pleasing Mr Sweeney, if no one else, certainly not Yogi, who seems intent on labouring a point.
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Yogi
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All these comments make very interesting reading.
Now that Sid has joined in he cannot, or will not, answer my original question - are Hull Iomians going to be truly amateur. Thank you to BP Youth for answering on behalf of your club. Edited by Yogi - 08 Feb 2024 at 20:22 |
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What's with you Boo-Boo
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BP Youth
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Let me pin my colours firmly to the mast. I am an I's supporter, I enjoy a bit fishing and pedantry. The weather has been poor today and there's nowt on the telly worth watching, so... Anyone who found this fill-in article on page 47, read it ( more than once, I suspect) and found it very interesting must be a regular reader of the local HDM and BRM, or more than likely just wanted to cast aspersions against local rivals. The lad who wrote the article knew nothing about Joe, rang him at work, catching him somewhat on the hop. Naturally enough not every word would be considered. However, although the word amateur appears three times it is only once directly attributed to Joe. In answer to your question, Yogi. No. |
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Thatbloke
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Well my take on it is that you're either amateur or you're not - there's no in between to discuss
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One For The Ditch
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I am waiting with bated breath for the Lancashire contribution TB!!
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Sid James
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Well it's been a while!
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Thatbloke
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Here we go - get ready for some East Yorkshire tit-for-tat banter!! 😂😂
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Sid James
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Joe also mentioned Hull Ionians 2ndXV, the Ramblers team, the Senior Womens team, the very successful Mini Junior Section and the army of Club volunteers. Have you anything to say on those points?
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Sid James
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Quite correct Richard. Over the years, Yogi's Club have repeatedly 'missed the point entirely' when it comes to paying players.
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WEvans
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Yes Ashley that was what I meant.
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tigerburnie
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I thought Rosslyn Parks players were pro and full time, not sure why I thought that, sure someone on here said so, of the others I'm not sure. Not all the Championship are full time pro either are they? The Lions say on their Pitchero site, that they are a semi pro side, what ever that entails.
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kingsheathlad
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I'm guessing in National 1,no players are fully professional,perhaps have full time jobs ,so match fees could be pocket money to cover travel to club for training and games.
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Paul10
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Thanks Richard.
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Richard Lowther
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A contract requires a quid pro quo, in Rugby presumably payment for playing, so the size of the fee is irrelevant, it's the fact you are getting any fee that tips you into the professional sphere. The Semi part would come in under this dictionary definition "receiving payment for an activity but not relying entirely on it for a living"
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kingsheathlad
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Thanks Paul.
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Paul10
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Depends how big the fee is, doesn't it?
If it's a 2nd job type fee then, yes, semi-pro. |
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kingsheathlad
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If a player is on a contract but only paid a match fee is that.semi-pro.
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Richard Lowther
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You miss the point entirely.
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