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    Posted: 26 Feb 2024 at 11:51
Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Originally posted by *Stalwart *Stalwart wrote:

Originally posted by No 7 No 7 wrote:

Hidden away in the the RUGBY PAPER is a readers letter. A Coventry supporter shouting the praises of Ealing and that they should be given the chance to clasp the poisoned chalice with both hands.
I think most of us would agree that if Ealing win the league they should (if they want it) be given a chance in the top flight.
Of course they should. Every right-thinking person would agree.

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Originally posted by *Stalwart *Stalwart wrote:

Originally posted by No 7 No 7 wrote:

Hidden away in the the RUGBY PAPER is a readers letter. A Coventry supporter shouting the praises of Ealing and that they should be given the chance to clasp the poisoned chalice with both hands.
I think most of us would agree that if Ealing win the league they should (if they want it) be given a chance in the top flight.
Of course they should. Every right-thinking person would agree.
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Originally posted by No 7 No 7 wrote:

Hidden away in the the RUGBY PAPER is a readers letter. A Coventry supporter shouting the praises of Ealing and that they should be given the chance to clasp the poisoned chalice with both hands.
I think most of us would agree that if Ealing win the league they should (if they want it) be given a chance in the top flight.
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Hidden away in the the RUGBY PAPER is a readers letter. A Coventry supporter shouting the praises of Ealing and that they should be given the chance to clasp the poisoned chalice with both hands.
Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Very nice articles in TRP today in praise of Ealing and in opposition to the cartel. 
Yes there are, and rightly so.
However, sadly, the Rugby Paper has the teeth of a new-born babe.
It won't change a thing.
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Very nice articles in TRP today in praise of Ealing and in opposition to the cartel. 
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Originally posted by *Stalwart *Stalwart wrote:

It's disappointing that so few turn up to support Ealing. What they've achieved over the last 10 years or so is impressive. OK, they have the committed backer who has spent a lot of money - but the squad they have and the facilities at Vallis Way are to be admired. Not sure why more punters don't come in - is it that there is simply too much opposition for fans with football and Premiership rugby nearby?
As others have said, that game was there to be won, small margins with two kicks hitting the posts and a couple of interceptions. So they are not far off being able to compete at the top level.  They should be given the chance if they win the league, but we all know that isn't going to happen.

Upon further review, the crowd wasnt nearly as small as Austin Healey made out. The 2700 quoted was the sold out standing capacity. As Trailfinder said, there were likely only 500,  or so unsold seats, so attendance was likely c.4500 or so.
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Not sure why we have the over sensitive Ealing fans attacking me.

Is it true that Ealing had massive scrum ascendancy in the first 20 mins and didn’t make it count.  Is it true when De Wee got a silly yellow and Tigers got a couple of maul tries shortly after.

Ealing have an owner that gave £7,667,888 last year alone to fund the rugby operations, so the money is there.

If you take Bristol they have a turnover of £14m of which £5.4m is from league income and £4.8m from ticket sales.

Looking at Newcastle they have a turnover of £12.2m, £1.2m comes from tickets, £7.85m from RFU and Premier Rugby.

Sale only have income of £11.7m with £7.46 form the RFU and Premier rugby.

Add on the £7.7m the Ealing owner provides to either the £7.85 or £5.4m they are there. It just shows the crowd do not matter for Premiership Clubs and naturally they would be larger with more away supporters in the Premiership.
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Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

Oh and about crowd size, yes it was disappointing but so are Newcastle and Sale.

Exeter were c. 2,500 in the Championship, now look at them.

However Ealing don’t need the crowd, they have what most Premiership teams have, a rich backer happy to lose a load of money and no back up plan if they were to disappear! 

I have no connection or special knowledge of Ealing but I suspect their back up plan if and when the worst were to happen would be to continue with the flourishing amateur club in a much improved and secured environment thanks to their rich backer.
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It's disappointing that so few turn up to support Ealing. What they've achieved over the last 10 years or so is impressive. OK, they have the committed backer who has spent a lot of money - but the squad they have and the facilities at Vallis Way are to be admired. Not sure why more punters don't come in - is it that there is simply too much opposition for fans with football and Premiership rugby nearby?
As others have said, that game was there to be won, small margins with two kicks hitting the posts and a couple of interceptions. So they are not far off being able to compete at the top level.  They should be given the chance if they win the league, but we all know that isn't going to happen.
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It took two posts but you managed to tick every box possible. Your usual effort exceeded by far in denigrating Ealing Trailfinders.........well done supreme effort.
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Oh and about crowd size, yes it was disappointing but so are Newcastle and Sale.

Exeter were c. 2,500 in the Championship, now look at them.

However Ealing don’t need the crowd, they have what most Premiership teams have, a rich backer happy to lose a load of money and no back up plan if they were to disappear! 
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Ealing lost it in the first 20 mins. They had massive scrum pressure and 2 penalties 5m from the line that they decided to go for 3 points. Ben Ward said he was pleased they took the 6 points! Jersey would have hammered home the advantage, got some yellows cards and 14 points on the board.

Instead De Wee (who would be in the bin every game in the Premiership unless he learnt) got the silly yellow and then a couple of mauls later by Tigers more than cancelled out the 6 points.

It was a good effort by Ealing but a game they will reflect on that could have been won.
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Sport reflects life sadly, keyboard warriors who speak(type) without putting their brain in gear first, they would not talk like the way they do on line, when in the club house face to face.
Rugby is still alive and kicking in the leagues below the Premiership, but I am more disillusioned each year by the professional game and those who follow it, orangesging their own players/coaches/management, demanding results and frankly out of touch with any sporting ethos, money really did change rugby union and for the most part, it wasn't for the better. They ridicule the Championship because they don't have large grounds and large crowds, but when I ask them what they thought of the game last season where Sale hosted Bristol in a premiership game and the crowd was below 4000, not the end of the world, but it illustrated that rugby is not a sport that draws huge crowds. no one answered my question as to how we address it.
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Originally posted by tigerburnie tigerburnie wrote:

Sadly there is a clear bias against anything not PRL, you don't want to read some of the carp on the Leicester Tigers official forum, there are some very embarrassing posters with attitudes reminiscent of Victorian Mill owners. It is all about them being entitled and looking down from their ivory towers being more than just disdainful about clubs "beneath them".
I have tried to mediate and offer the middle ground, I shall not being defending the fans on there on this forum anymore, the attitude some have is really disappointing, I remember when rugby fans used to claim the higher moral ground above the likes of soccer fans, they don't hold that ground anymore.

I took a look at the Tigers forum, and I have to say that it is a bit frustrating, but there was more sympathetic feedback than I had expected. That said, I was incredibly disappointed by the crowd. I do think it was under-reported (something Ealing has huge problems with), but definitely was not a sell-out, and certainly wasn't as well-attended as the Championship Cup final against London Irish in 2019. That said, that cup final was before the ring-fence went up - I believe that is directly depressing Championship crowds.

It certainly didn't help that the tickets were £40 for seats, and £10 for kids. I know half a dozen folks in my son's mini's group didn't go because the tickets were too dear.

The one thing that I would say to all of those tigers forum supporters, is that Ealing just built a £3.4m indoor training pitch, it is only about 200ms from the playing field. So whoever thinks there isn't investment in the facilities is wrong - Ealing would build stands tomorrow if they could get planning permission.


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Sadly there is a clear bias against anything not PRL, you don't want to read some of the carp on the Leicester Tigers official forum, there are some very embarrassing posters with attitudes reminiscent of Victorian Mill owners. It is all about them being entitled and looking down from their ivory towers being more than just disdainful about clubs "beneath them".
I have tried to mediate and offer the middle ground, I shall not being defending the fans on there on this forum anymore, the attitude some have is really disappointing, I remember when rugby fans used to claim the higher moral ground above the likes of soccer fans, they don't hold that ground anymore.
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Austin Healey spouting drivel, surely not.

He really is well past his sell-by date nowadays. He has turned from an insightful analyst into a tabloid one with his constant hysterical interjections. "He is very seriously injured" generally means the player recovers and carries on within minutes. "That's a definite red card" is usually followed by a review in which no foul play is the result. He adds very little to a game in my opinion. 
He is also quite happy offering lightly veiled criticism based on inaccurate facts. On commentary he twice quoted an attendance figure of 2700. This I believe represents just the sold out standing tickets, to which must be added approx 1700 seating tickets (approx 500 unsold) to give a more accurate estimate of attendance.
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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

Austin Healey spouting drivel, surely not.

He really is well past his sell-by date nowadays. He has turned from an insightful analyst into a tabloid one with his constant hysterical interjections. "He is very seriously injured" generally means the player recovers and carries on within minutes. "That's a definite red card" is usually followed by a review in which no foul play is the result. He adds very little to a game in my opinion. 
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