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    Posted: 28 Apr 2024 at 09:54
If Chester are moved back North, do we now have this?

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With Hull Ionians surviving, I think N will again have one team too many as it needs to accommodate 3 teams with only 2 slots available (if you include Chester) so a N team will go West. That would mean that West has one too many and possibly send Oxford Harlequins to the East. Lymm, Chester and possibly Macclesfield could be in mix for a transfer.
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How can it be anyone other than Chester?  Macclesfield is further east by a fair amount that presumable adds on a fair amount of mileage?
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Originally posted by SK 88 SK 88 wrote:

How can it be anyone other than Chester?  Macclesfield is further east by a fair amount that presumable adds on a fair amount of mileage?

All depends on the mileage criteria they apply. 

We already know that between Chester and Lymm, Chester have less to travel, but that now needs to be applied to Chester and Macclesfield. 
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With the way it works these days it could be quite a big shake up,

Looking on the map it might be that moving Worthing, Havant, Ox Quins & Henley into the West, with Chester, Bournville, Hinckley & Loughborough into a Midlands & London division actually results in less overall mileage.  There are now three trips to the deep south west with Redruth, Camborne & Devonport all at that level which really racks up the mileage.  Without the trip to North Walsham you'd have Bury St Edmonds, Colchester & Canterbury as the *really* long trips from the north.

Looking closer that could even see Sheffield drop into the south, which would be objectively hilarious to have the two Sheffield clubs be the closest National League clubs to each other but be in different leagues! 
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Don’t know about objectively hilarious.Objectively stupid if you ask me.
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I think I'm going with this at the moment.

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Originally posted by WILD BOAR 1 WILD BOAR 1 wrote:

I think I'm going with this at the moment.

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Cinderford
Luctonians
Clifton
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Camborne
Hinckley
Loughborough S
Redruth
Bournville
Hornets
Devonport S
Chester/Macclesfield
Agree except if the stated aim of reducing travel is actually followed through then Hinckley & Loughborough should go east and Oxford H. & Henley or Havant should go west.
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Sounds like it could be Macclesfield.
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According to Billingham’s Facebook, they are saying that National 2 North makeup is as follows:

Billingham
Chester
Fylde
Harrogate 
Hull
Hull Ionians
Leeds Tykes
Lymm
Otley
Preston
Sheffield 
Sheffield Tigers
Tynedale 
Wharfedale 

This might suggest Wild Boars assumption might be correct but I can only see details of the makeup of National 2 North.




Edited by Rothman2 - 10 May 2024 at 00:02
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Originally posted by Rothman2 Rothman2 wrote:

According to Billingham’s Facebook, they are saying that National 2 North makeup is as follows:

Billingham
Chester
Fylde
Harrogate 
Hull
Hull Ionians
Leeds Tykes
Lymm
Otley
Preston
Sheffield 
Sheffield Tigers
Tynedale 
Wharfedale 

This might suggest Wild Boars assumption might be correct but I can only see details of the makeup of National 2 North.


That's right. Macclesfield head West, into what looks like a strong Nat 2 West league.
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I have the make up of all leagues down to Level 6. PM me mobile number and i can forward via WhatsApp (refuses to be sent by email) 

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Brilliant. Thank you.
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Surely it’s crazy to have Macclesfield in the West division, even if the mileage involved is less than for Chester and Lymm? The travel time to Macclesfield from the motorway network is much greater than for the other two (says an ex Cheshire resident).
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NCA have now confirmed the league structure for next season as attached:
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Mileage Charts  to National 2 North destinations































Billingham

Chester

Fylde

Harrogate

Hull

Hull Ionians

Leeds

Lymm

Otley

Preston Grasshoppers

Sheffield

Sheffield Tigers

Tynedale

Wharfedale

Chester

155


76

106

139

129

89

26

96

70

72

71

180

93

Lymm

135

26

58

77

117

103

67


67

43

50

48

162

71

Macclesfield

139

41

70

82

114

105

72

18

83

54

36

35

174

77































Mileage Charts to National 2 West destinations































Bournville

Camborne

Cinderford

Clifton

Devonport Services

Exeter University

Hinckley

Hornets

Loughborough Stu.

Luctonians

Macclesfield

Old Redcliffians

Redruth

Taunton Titans

Chester

72

348

156

155

274

231

95

174

88

76

33

163

326

198

Lymm

74

329

138

154

273

230

95

173

87

92

18

162

325

198

Macclesfield

69

324

133

149

268

225

90

169

68

108


158

320

193
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Sorry the presentation isn’t so good. Did it from my I phone & the spreadsheet is fairly basic…….a bit like me 😂

Used Lymm Chester & Macclesfield & inserted distances to each Div 2 North & west ground for comparison. Haven’t had chance to analyse yet.
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For Nat 2W excluding Macclesfield as a destination:

Chester: 2358
Lymm: 2330
Macclesfield: 2274

Given Chester is the furthest South & West that surprises me, I guess being closer to the Midlands sides tipped the balance? 

Fair enough for the league split though on that basis.
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I think it's fait to say North and West are both very strong leagues, who ever is promoted will have had a tough route.
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