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Originally posted by marigold marigold wrote:

No reason to delay the restructure. The Championship clubs will never agree due to different agendas so the RFU has to lead and tell them what will happen. Besides Ealing no one in the Championship can even think of affording to play in the Premiership-and they will be there at the end of this season. That leaves 10 clubs in the Championship. All the Championship clubs agree the Cup competition is a waste of time and effort. There is no relegation from the Championship this season so bring 2 clubs up from National One to make next season a 22 match league competition-no cup competition. Do the same the following season, no relegation and bring another two clubs up from Nat One to make a 14 team, 26 match league season. RFU then simply has to find the money for the 4 new clubs, but with the amount given to each club cut from £560k to £150k and with international matches back and no doubt a ticket price hike this should be very doable. After that, the top team of Nat One get promoted, bottom team of Championship has play off against second placed team in Nat One. Premiership clubs then have 14 options in Championship to place their academy players instead of 10 as it is now. If a club at top of Championship some time in the future (cannot see it happening) ticks all the boxes for entry into Premiership they have a 2 match play off against the bottom Prem team that season. Sorted 

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Sensible

However why should the winner of a league have to play off against the loser of the league above? That is just another attempt at protectionism 
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Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

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However why should the winner of a league have to play off against the loser of the league above? That is just another attempt at protectionism 
Exactly. Ridiculous notion.
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Problem is the more Level 2 clubs push for automatic promotion to/and relegation from the Prem the more you push the top clubs to forcing through a closed shop. Not ideal but at least the suggested play off scenario keeps the door open for both promotion for top placed Championship club to go up but gives the Prem club one last chance to retain their status. Not perfect obviously but such a compromise is probably the best you're going to get
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If the Championship wants 14 or 16 teams, it should do it at the end of this season. Get all of the reorg done in one hit.

It is not as if there are not enough good teams in Nat 1 ready to join Richmond, Ampthill, Coventry, Hartpury, Ealing, Doncaster, Jersey and Scottish - all of whom have won promotion since the creation of the championship. Pirates and Nottingham were promoted in the 2000s in the National 1 era. Only Bedford have been at level 2 since before 2000 - 1994.
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Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Dont blame the RFU, it’s as much I decision among the Championship Clubs. Steve Lloyd doesn’t seem to have the control that Geoff Irvine did. Why does the RFU have to form a working group! Because the Clubs can’t sort it out themselves.

That doesn't explain why the RFU are letting this season start with some teams having no idea what they are playing for. Sorry but they are a shambles.

So you'd rather wait until January before playing? If the Championship Clubs had made some effort among themselves during the pandemic and last season's matches to agree a structure then we'd all be much better off. It's the fault of the Clubs that they can't agree among themselves as to what they want to do, the RFU held back letting the kids sort their own mess but as they haven't they have had to step in and sort it out for them.

The blame lies firmly with the Clubs!

Can you seriously not see the alternative to starting the season in January is to postpone the restructure by a season to make it fair to the clubs?

The Championship clubs might well be at fault but why should the RFU use this as an excuse to make the seasons of all clubs below this league a farce?

I can see very clearly the logic of delaying the restructure. I don't think the seasons are a farce. At Level 4 we know there is no relegation this season, we just aren't sure whether 2, 3, or 4 sides will be promoted. National League Rugby got itself largely sorted, the problem lies with the Championship who seem blind to the others below them. The RFU just wants it all sorted!

That said then why on earth would you suggest I wanted to wait until January to start the season?

Raider 999 has the answer to the current problem in his post above yours which supports my original view. 
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