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Completely agree Donnyknightfan.
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Originally posted by Donnyknightfan Donnyknightfan wrote:

I may sound a bit cynical, but bar the 2nd team in ND1 having a chance to come up, i don’t see a lot to get that excited about. On paper, the top 6 teams having something to play for towards the end of the season is a good thing, and should create some drama. However, and here’s the crux of it for me, if we have a situation again next year where only 1 or 2 Championship Clubs meet the MSC, then the whole premise of the format change is a worthless gimmick. Because if hardly any teams in the division are eligible to achieve the prize that we’re supposedly playing for, then the whole thing loses any relevance. 

I’m massively in favour of promotion, any club in whatever league should be able to aspire to get to the top. However, unless there’s a genuinely affordable and sustainable pathway for clubs to achieve it, and then be competitive in the Premiership, it’s not viable. 

If it’s a 31 game season, only for the team that wins it to be denied promotion, then what is the point?. 


I understand this view, and as an Ealing fan, I'm probably more jaded than most about the Minimum Standards Criteria. However, I think that the biggest benefit of this set up will be having regular rugby to go watch. With 26 league matches, and no cup, that means that every team gets a nice, predictable schedule where we can play every team once each home and away. 

While I'll miss the challenge of playing the prem teams, and a couple of bumper crowds, overall the league should be stronger with no teams going 6 weeks without a match, and not needing to wait for Premiership breaks. Instead, it can just be rugby every weekend on a nice, consistent schedule. I've seen times this year where Ealing has played one home game in a month - absurd. We've also played London Scottish four times - also absurd.
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One game a month, such luxury.
Home games involving Premierships clubs, unthinkable.

But 26 games in 8 months does sound sensible.
Six sides will have no games in May.

We will be trying to avoid the relegation play-offs - but so are 13 other sides.
So II think we will be happy to have a blan May.
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As Camquin alludes to, Chinnor and Cambridge have gone a lot longer than one home game in a month, and have had no fixtures against Premiership clubs, so we have little sympathy for the comments on behalf of Ealing. 

And as to Ealing having to play London Scottish four times, Chinnor and Cambridge had to play the Not The Prem Cup in order to have some rugby, so will have played each other 4 times......................
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We are all in the Chump league.
Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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With the Premiership playing dirty, perhaps this is the prefect format, as we can all play hard in the league and then those clubs in the top 6 that can't go up, could perhaps rest a few players to let those clubs that can have a crack at Newcastle.  

We do need a 31 January transfer deadline again like last time (barring exceptional circucmstance loan) we had playoff to stop any mass signings just before both playoffs.  Still remember Birmingham Solihull or Pertemp Bees they may have been recruiting a lot of players ready for the relegation play offs!
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Originally posted by fatbear fatbear wrote:

As Camquin alludes to, Chinnor and Cambridge have gone a lot longer than one home game in a month, and have had no fixtures against Premiership clubs, so we have little sympathy for the comments on behalf of Ealing. 

And as to Ealing having to play London Scottish four times, Chinnor and Cambridge had to play the Not The Prem Cup in order to have some rugby, so will have played each other 4 times......................

You may want to re-read my post. The entire point was that I thought it was better and fairer for the league overall to have the recently announced structure than to retain the blatantly unfair schedule that we had this year.
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Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

With the Premiership playing dirty, perhaps this is the prefect format, as we can all play hard in the league and then those clubs in the top 6 that can't go up, could perhaps rest a few players to let those clubs that can have a crack at Newcastle.  

We do need a 31 January transfer deadline again like last time (barring exceptional circucmstance loan) we had playoff to stop any mass signings just before both playoffs.  Still remember Birmingham Solihull or Pertemp Bees they may have been recruiting a lot of players ready for the relegation play offs!


Yes, we remember Pertemps Bees. They were, supposedly, struggling financially and we had a whip round at Pirates to help with their travel costs when they came to Penzance. Next thing, they're recruiting a shed load of players! Not bitter, mind!
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Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

Or once their beloved WW finally achieve Prem status they shut down the play-offs and stop promotion all together…..

This. Worcester will be writing expensive contracts for 2025/26 based on a projection of promotion in Year 1 : everyone knows that Champ rugby doesn’t bring in enough revenue to pay those player salaries.

The RFU can’t risk the egg-on-face if The Franchise finishes 2nd or 3rd in the current format and has to announce financial problems. Let’s face it : Playoffs for the top 6 vastly reduces the jeopardy caused by dropping points away at Ealing, Donny, Cov, GR, the Mennaye, a heavy pitch at Caldy, or anywhere else.
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Originally posted by Stalwart* Stalwart* wrote:

Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

With the Premiership playing dirty, perhaps this is the prefect format, as we can all play hard in the league and then those clubs in the top 6 that can't go up, could perhaps rest a few players to let those clubs that can have a crack at Newcastle.  

We do need a 31 January transfer deadline again like last time (barring exceptional circucmstance loan) we had playoff to stop any mass signings just before both playoffs.  Still remember Birmingham Solihull or Pertemp Bees they may have been recruiting a lot of players ready for the relegation play offs!


Yes, we remember Pertemps Bees. They were, supposedly, struggling financially and we had a whip round at Pirates to help with their travel costs when they came to Penzance. Next thing, they're recruiting a shed load of players! Not bitter, mind!
It cost Cov an awful lot more than a whip round.
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We came second to them in the season they decided to reduce the numbers at level two to 12, so there was only one side promoted.
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I wonder what the odds are on the completely random fixture generator giving Worcester a home game at Sixways to start the season…
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Birmingham & Solihull are currently in Counties 2 Midlands West (East).  I think this is level 8 of the pyramid but correct me if I'm wrong.
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Originally posted by CJB1 CJB1 wrote:

Birmingham & Solihull are currently in Counties 2 Midlands West (East).  I think this is level 8 of the pyramid but correct me if I'm wrong.
That's as maybe - but it's about what they deserve after that fiasco.
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