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    Posted: 13 Nov 2024 at 09:53
Re Wales U20s. Nice idea but I expect a good number of those lads are playing for Exeter, Briz or Bath amongst others.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Nov 2024 at 18:31
I am sure hte committees have been working hard.
But nothing else has been announced.

Cambridge 1923s played matches against the services last season.
And of course, it also plays the Blues.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Nat1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Nov 2024 at 17:21
That would be a good idea, surely not too late to organise as that stage is still a few months down the line? Or if not, at least play some matches against Prem academies.

Have Cambridge or Chinnor approached the Army, Navy, RAF for fixtures during those blank weeks, or Oxford or Cambridge University? Maybe one of the top BUCS sides also if free.

I saw that Cambridge have a fixture against England U20s, why not see if Wales, Scotland or Ireland U20s fancy a match too. It takes some imagination, but where there's a will there's a way, especially as it would bring in some much needed £££ that both Cambridge and Chinnor have talked about so much in the last few months.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Nov 2024 at 12:33
Which is excellent news for Cov, but even more galling fro Chinnor and Cambridge.

Listening to the new head of Prem II, I was struck about how he was talking about France doing everything as the 30 sides, and thought -yes well everything here is done for the good of the ten and sod the rest.

I also realised that there are going to be Premiership sides without matches in the kock out phase - as at most 8 are invilved.

Chinnor and cambridge could have been offered home games those weeks against mystery Premiership sides - announced after the previous weeks matches, which while not as easy to sell, would  have been something.
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Cov's first win at Welford Road since 1991/92, brilliant result, well done everyone, not least the Cov away support who drowned out the homesters.

Northampton at the BPA on the 23rd looking as if it could be a sell out & ground record.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote castleparknight Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Nov 2024 at 07:35
Originally posted by Guinness John Guinness John wrote:

Maybe play the second half first ConfusedWink

If only we could have, I have to say even though the 1st half appeared one way traffic, it most definitely wasn’t, some of the defensive hits by the Falcons in that first half were impressive, we worked very hard and looked like we would score on a few occasions only to be undone by their solid defence. Looking forward to the return fixture.
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Maybe play the second half first ConfusedWink
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The death of the English language is nigh.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Trailfinder Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2024 at 18:51
Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Using Gemini and the prompt ""Can you write a 200 word summary of a rugby match between Coventry and Leicester Tigers?" I received the below, accurate summary.

Coventry Rugby secured a historic victory over Leicester Tigers in the Premiership Rugby Cup, ending a 32-year drought at Welford Road. The visitors dominated the first half, scoring four tries to establish a 26-5 lead. Leicester fought back in the second half, with replacement prop Archie van der Flier crossing the line, but Coventry's Senitiki Nayalo sealed the win with a crucial try. The final score was 33-19, marking a memorable day for Coventry and their passionate supporters.


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Using Gemini and the prompt ""Can you write a 200 word summary of a rugby match between Coventry and Leicester Tigers?" I received the below, accurate summary.

Coventry Rugby secured a historic victory over Leicester Tigers in the Premiership Rugby Cup, ending a 32-year drought at Welford Road. The visitors dominated the first half, scoring four tries to establish a 26-5 lead. Leicester fought back in the second half, with replacement prop Archie van der Flier crossing the line, but Coventry's Senitiki Nayalo sealed the win with a crucial try. The final score was 33-19, marking a memorable day for Coventry and their passionate supporters.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kimbo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2024 at 17:22
That would pre-suppose some level of intelligence. Certainly none of that patricular commodity is on display here.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote islander Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2024 at 15:43
Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Is 'Talking Rugby' just a spoof site now (or have I woken up in an alternative space today?

I draw your attention to the Leic vs Cov report in particular, but it doesn't end with that one. 

"Leicester Tigers vs Coventry Rugby

At Mattioli Woods Welford Road Stadium, Leicester Tigers narrowly defeated Coventry Rugby in an intense, high-scoring encounter. Both teams displayed exceptional offensive strategies, with Leicester taking a slight edge thanks to their experience in handling high-pressure situations. Leicester’s forwards provided a solid platform, while their backs capitalized on Coventry’s defensive lapses. Coventry remained competitive, pushing Leicester until the final whistle, but Leicester’s composure and precise execution in crucial moments earned them the victory. This close match showcased both teams' resilience and attacking potential:"


WTF?


Extraordinary - and I absolutely think it's been written by AI (as suggested earlier by Trailfinder)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kimbo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2024 at 15:11
I thought it implicit that I was referring to the futility of the competition from a Championship (ALL clubs) point of view, but evidently not.
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Originally posted by Trailfinder Trailfinder wrote:


Some of the results have highlighted though the disjointed nature of the DR system. Swapping players in and out depending on the competition does nothing for the integrity of the competitions. Season long loans would be far preferable imo. 


There's no doubt in my mind that season long loans are better for the club and the player. For example, I can't guarantee that George Furbank benefited from his 2 years at Cambridge but it allowed the club and player to plan with some certainty.

What these season long loans have highlighted is that players not quite in the Premiership match day squads can continue with meaningful game time and instills the team ethic.

Would be interesting to know what GF thinks! (His TRP interview didn't cover that aspect other than he played!)

There must be many players in the Premiership over the last decade who have benefitted from season long loans. I'm sure there's data somewhere on who went where and for how long but it's outwith my knowledge.Smile



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Trailfinder Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2024 at 11:29
Originally posted by JZSmith JZSmith wrote:

Originally posted by Trailfinder Trailfinder wrote:

Reads like it was written by AI

More like it was written by Stephen Jones who has history of writing "match reports" of games which haven't yet taken place!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Trailfinder Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2024 at 11:25
I think the Prem cup has been quite positive and an improvement on last year. Is it perfect? No far from it, not least the appalling treatment of Cambridge and Chinnor. But for all the reasons Stalward just described, this is a big deal for the Champ players (and fans) who finally get their chance on a bigger stage. Plus there is a TV deal! Although the scheduling clashes with the Ireland vs NZ game on Friday night and the England game last Sat are nonsensical. 

Some of the results have highlighted though the disjointed nature of the DR system. Swapping players in and out depending on the competition does nothing for the integrity of the competitions. Season long loans would be far preferable imo. 

Re Bristol,  see they had a game against an Australian XV the day before?! That is fairly contemptuous I think. 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JZSmith Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2024 at 11:19
Originally posted by Trailfinder Trailfinder wrote:

Reads like it was written by AI

More like it was written by Stephen Jones who has history of writing "match reports" of games which haven't yet taken place!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tigerburnie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2024 at 10:53
Originally posted by *Stalwart *Stalwart wrote:

Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

Bath 78 - 19 Bristol

Also shows that it isn’t just Championship Clubs that get a hiding. Bath appeared to go strong with this one and Bristol used younger players.
The futiliy of this competition. No rules to speak of.

It might be futile, but it's generating a lot of much needed income. A sell out at The Mennaye for the Exeter game, and I'm sure it'll be the same when Gloucester come to Penzance. On the field it gives experience to players in Prem squads who don't get much game time (unless it's Exeter) and for Champ players they get to go to places like Kingsholm and experience big crowds in iconic stadia. 

Exactly, how I would have loved to have played at Welford Road in my playing days, this competition does not replace the old John Player Cup format, where giant killers get a shot at the big boys, but it is an improvement on nothing at all.
People just don't get it, in this world of instant result and "what's in it for me" attitude, I am embarrassed to go onto the Tigers forums just now as those that like to bask in the reflective glory of being behind a winning team are demanding we put out more first team players to use the games as purely gap fillers in their season. If this game is to survive(and each week I am getting more and more doubtful) as a pro sport, then this initiative is a beginning, not an answer, but a start in making the game more inclusive.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote *Stalwart Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2024 at 10:36
Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

Bath 78 - 19 Bristol

Also shows that it isn’t just Championship Clubs that get a hiding. Bath appeared to go strong with this one and Bristol used younger players.
The futiliy of this competition. No rules to speak of.

It might be futile, but it's generating a lot of much needed income. A sell out at The Mennaye for the Exeter game, and I'm sure it'll be the same when Gloucester come to Penzance. On the field it gives experience to players in Prem squads who don't get much game time (unless it's Exeter) and for Champ players they get to go to places like Kingsholm and experience big crowds in iconic stadia. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ChrisB Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2024 at 10:18
The "review" part 1 was just as bad and Trailfinder's comment is accurate I think.
TRU has never been a friend of the Champ, preferring to concentrate on the lower leagues and the universities. They are entitled to their views of course.

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