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    Posted: 05 Jul 2025 at 13:48
Originally posted by Paul10 Paul10 wrote:

There must be someone on this forum who knows what's what on companies house.

Why have Newcastle Rugby Limited filed an EH01 form? Anyone familiar with those?


I expect their accounts to be filed on Monday before they start getting beyond wrist slap level fines. They are already 3 months late - I think they extended a reporting period.

They are only a week late, they still take advantage of a covid-era relaxation so get a full year to file (for some reason, I've no idea why). 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Paul10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jun 2025 at 09:18
There must be someone on this forum who knows what's what on companies house.

Why have Newcastle Rugby Limited filed an EH01 form? Anyone familiar with those?


I expect their accounts to be filed on Monday before they start getting beyond wrist slap level fines. They are already 3 months late - I think they extended a reporting period.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SK 88 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jun 2025 at 12:46
Newcastle still haven't put season tickets for next year on sale and according to their fans forum who track contract announcements only have 25 players in contract for 2025/26, with no hookers.

I really hope these news reports are true. 
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Originally posted by FHLH FHLH wrote:

Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

I believe "Many a slip" is the correct phrase, or was that a Radio 4 quiz show.  

You're thinking of Would I Lie To You (definitely a Bob Mortimer story) 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jun 2025 at 08:53
For once, it is not the bard.
The basic idea of the phrase is Greek, and the Romans used it, but the current formulation only appears in the 18th century. 

Anyway, I am now off to count my chickens. 



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CJB1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jun 2025 at 22:38
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

I am also aware that there are many steps between, heads of agreement and final signature. 
I believe "Many a slip" is the correct phrase, or was that a Radio 4 quiz show.  
Showing my age when I say that I remember the show on R4.  The full phrase is "There's many a slip twixt cup and lip", I'm guessing it's Shakespeare for the author.  Roy Plomley (of Desert Island Discs fame) was the host.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FHLH Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jun 2025 at 19:07
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

No, I am just very old. I realised it was actually originally on the Home Service. 

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No, I am just very old. I realised it was actually originally on the Home Service. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FHLH Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jun 2025 at 13:59
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

I believe "Many a slip" is the correct phrase, or was that a Radio 4 quiz show.  

You're thinking of Would I Lie To You (definitely a Bob Mortimer story) 
"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jun 2025 at 10:41
I am also aware that there are many steps between, heads of agreement and final signature. 
I believe "Many a slip" is the correct phrase, or was that a Radio 4 quiz show.  
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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

Has this been seen anywhere official, such as on a Red Bull or Falcons website. 
Or a reputable news source. 
I do not trust most of the sites saying it is understood ... 

It depends what you mean by "this" Cq...

a) the two parties have been talking to each other

or 

b) a deal's been done

I've not seen any denials about a), which means it's inevitable media will cover as a story even though there's no official confirmation about having reached stage b).

I don't have any knowledge of this case, but often phrases like "it is believed" or "it is understood" indicate the journalist has been told something by a well-placed source, possibly even an official source, but advised they are being told this off the record, so can't attribute it to a named person or official spokesperson.

The Guardian reported last Friday that a deal had been agreed... and yes, I realise that in saying that I am opening up a rabbit-hole of a debate about whether the Guardian is a "reputable news source"


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Red Bull has agreed a deal to buy Newcastle Falcons which includes a commitment to keep the club in the city and will ensure the Premiership remains a 10-team competition next season.

Newcastle have been for sale for over a year, with owner Semore Kurdi no longer willing to fund multimillion-pound annual losses, leading to fears they could become the fourth Premiership club to go bust in the last two years after Wasps, Worcester and London Irish.

Such has been the concern for Newcastle’s future that the other Premiership clubs agreed in principle to provide a £4m loan to enable them to take part in the competition next season, with a nine-team top-flight not thought to be commercially viable.

Red Bull is understood to have reach an agreement to take over the cash-strapped club however, and take on their £39m debts. These include £14.5m in unpaid treasury loans taken out during the Covid-19 pandemic.

During negotiations with the Austrian energy drinks company the prospect of moving the club to the 26,000-capacity Darlington Arena 40 miles away was discussed, but the Guardian has been told that Red Bull’s takeover plan involves Newcastle staying at Kingston Park, which has been their home for the past 35 years.

Red Bull’s decision to stay in Newcastle is likely to be popular with the club’s longsuffering fans, who did not see them win a single match last season and only two this as Steve Diamond’s side finished bottom of the Premiership on both occasions. The company’s vision for the club is understood to be based on using their brands and marketing expertise to gain support from younger people in the city, with several campaigns planned to appeal to Newcastle’s student population.

Given the company’s footballing connections Red Bull is also expected to seek a close working relationship with Newcastle United. The club’s outgoing sporting director Paul Mitchell previously worked at RB Leipzig.

Newcastle will be Red Bull’s first rugby purchase, but the club aligns with it’s purchase model of snapping up underperforming sports teams with a business plan of transforming them into global brands. The company paid Ford just $1 to buy the failing Formula One team, Jaguar Racing, in 2004 and have successfully transformed them into giants of the sport, with Red Bull Racing winning eight world drivers’ championships and six constructors’ titles in the last 15 years.

In addition to football clubs, RB Leipzig, Red Bull Salzburg and the New York Red Bulls, they also own 9.9% of Leeds United and are heavily involved in motor sport and winter sports.

Attracting a new owner such as Red Bull is also a coup for Premiership Rugby, who are seeing much-needed signs of growth for the sport. Viewing figures for Premiership matches on TNT Sport are up 10% on last season before Saturday’s final between Bath and Leicester, with the increase 47% when the game directly follows a Premier League match.

In another significant boost TNT Sport last month agreed a new five-year deal giving it exclusive live rights for every Premiership match until 2031.

Red Bull and Newcastle declined to comment on the deal.
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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

Has this been seen anywhere official, such as on a Red Bull or Falcons website. 
Or a reputable news source. 
I do not trust most of the sites saying it is understood ... 

It depends what you mean by "this" Cq...

a) the two parties have been talking to each other

or 

b) a deal's been done

I've not seen any denials about a), which means it's inevitable media will cover as a story even though there's no official confirmation about having reached stage b).

I don't have any knowledge of this case, but often phrases like "it is believed" or "it is understood" indicate the journalist has been told something by a well-placed source, possibly even an official source, but advised they are being told this off the record, so can't attribute it to a named person or official spokesperson.

The Guardian reported last Friday that a deal had been agreed... and yes, I realise that in saying that I am opening up a rabbit-hole of a debate about whether the Guardian is a "reputable news source" - IMHO it is...


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It's not been confirmed. Mark Smith has pulled a few people up on Twitter for posting about it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jun 2025 at 12:35
Has this been seen anywhere official, such as on a Red Bull or Falcons website. 
Or a reputable news source. 
I do not trust most of the sites saying it is understood ... 
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Originally posted by Paul10 Paul10 wrote:

 
Jack Nowell wouldn't be a surprise. He's been a Red Bull "athlete" for ages.

Does his scrum cap still have their branding?

Damian Willemse (Springboks & Stormers) is also a Red Bull sports ambassador 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cheshire exile Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jun 2025 at 20:44
Presumably that’s why it was OK, as he wasn’t stepping on the toes of any “official supplier”, or is there an official “energy drink supplier “?
In any event, surely Jack is too much of a warm weather creature to move to Newcastle? (Speaking as a Cornishman who lived in the North East for three years)
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I've never understood how he gets away with that. We've seen players find for wearing a gumshield manufactured by a company which isn't on the official.supplier list, yet he unilaterally advertises a product which isn't an official sponsor of any competition.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Paul10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jun 2025 at 19:47
Originally posted by FHLH FHLH wrote:

Good to see the media speculating Newcastle targets

Liam Williams
Zach Mercer 
Conor Murray 
Joe Marchant
Freddie Burns
Jack Nowell 
Tom Cobbley

Jack Nowell wouldn't be a surprise. He's been a Red Bull "athlete" for ages.

Does his scrum cap still have their branding?
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