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    Posted: 13 Jun 2022 at 14:52
Originally posted by Rich Rich wrote:

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It was the right decision in order to preserve the 13 clubs that have existed within the Premiership. It's a miracle that they've survived after what has gone on over the last few years.”
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and (as usual) stuff all those below the top table who suffered as least at much, with level 2 crippled by mandatory testing and no crowds and level 3 and below losing a full 18 months of fixtures...
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Level 2 crippled by mandatory testing - all in order to play half a season to get the Cheats promoted!
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And the third not playing.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote carlos fandango Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Jun 2022 at 09:49
I thought I might pop along to a game last weekend until I discovered that Northampton was the nearest venue. Two London clubs and both away on the same day. Really?

Equally the cost of a half decent ticket was crazy for a neutral. £50 or £60? A joke.

Last time I saw a Prem. game, Lynagh was still Saracen's Fly Half. Looks like that won't change any time soon.
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Absolutely  hate the premiership  play off farce..Leicester you have won the premiership but hang on a mo let's play another two games to see if you can win it again !!!!!
 any team who comes top at the end of the season should win it outright , end of story


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Originally posted by tigerburnie tigerburnie wrote:

Originally posted by Bigbluepip Bigbluepip wrote:


I will say hats off the Leicester who had already finished top, but still fielded a first choice team.
This will happen every year, a string of pointless games at the end of the season, unless we keep relegation to the Championship open, it’s only the money men who want ring fencing.
Money men with no interest in the game whatsoever it would seem too, turgid dead rubbers as long as "their" investment is safe. The game is dying on it's feet, seems Wasps have not paid dividends due and windup orders are in place for certain parts of their financial empire(no idea what it all means) and the RFU/PRL seem to be just sweeping it under the carpet.

PRL and the RFU are very good at sweeping things under the carpet. Particularly when Mr Wray provides the broom remember.
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Bath and their modern stadium, relegated.
Ealing and their antiquated ground, promoted.

Oh, hang on...
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Originally posted by Bigbluepip Bigbluepip wrote:


I will say hats off the Leicester who had already finished top, but still fielded a first choice team.
This will happen every year, a string of pointless games at the end of the season, unless we keep relegation to the Championship open, it’s only the money men who want ring fencing.
Money men with no interest in the game whatsoever it would seem too, turgid dead rubbers as long as "their" investment is safe. The game is dying on it's feet, seems Wasps have not paid dividends due and windup orders are in place for certain parts of their financial empire(no idea what it all means) and the RFU/PRL seem to be just sweeping it under the carpet.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bigbluepip Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jun 2022 at 00:01
This last round of Prem rugby games, only 2 have any consequence as there is no relegation battles going on. In one of those Sarries fielded a 2nd/3rd team as they’ve already qualified in 2nd place in the league, and they are playing a side that could come fourth, depending on the other match, Sarries lost 54-7, but it didn’t matter, to them.
I will say hats off the Leicester who had already finished top, but still fielded a first choice team.
This will happen every year, a string of pointless games at the end of the season, unless we keep relegation to the Championship open, it’s only the money men who want ring fencing.
I want you all to line up in a circle and pair up in three's alphabetically by height.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rich Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jun 2022 at 10:09
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It was the right decision in order to preserve the 13 clubs that have existed within the Premiership. It's a miracle that they've survived after what has gone on over the last few years.”
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and (as usual) stuff all those below the top table who suffered as least at much, with level 2 crippled by mandatory testing and no crowds and level 3 and below losing a full 18 months of fixtures...
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Originally posted by 373 373 wrote:

Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

...and the Telegraph today ran an article with the head of PRL, who said that they do intend to promote a team to get to 14 next year. Behind a paywall.


“Audience figures are up this year generally,” Massie-Taylor said. “We've specifically looked at matches that don't necessarily have the jeopardy that they may have had if they were in that relegation zone and there isn't a material difference there.”

Your point about showing games on terrestrial TV is a good one.
 

Audience figures up this year? Do they mean attendance, compared to last year when no one was allowed in stadia? I can't believe that the number of eyes per week on rugby are up based on TV figures, especially as many fewer games have been shown on TV. I'd be surprised if Worcester vs. Bath gets 5000 attendees.
You can’t believe that viewing figures are up despite more games being on itv/channel 4 than previous years? The Sale/Leicester game had close to a million viewers. 1 game drew about 5 times the standard viewing figures. That audience rising, I’d assume, also includes the amount of people watching highlights on YouTube. The number of fans at stadiums is down about 200,000 over the season compared to the last full season, although that doesn’t take into account of the last game of the season yet to take place or the covid cancellations that took place. So even then, the statement that the figures are up is probably true. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 373 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2022 at 12:51
Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

...and the Telegraph today ran an article with the head of PRL, who said that they do intend to promote a team to get to 14 next year. Behind a paywall.


“Audience figures are up this year generally,” Massie-Taylor said. “We've specifically looked at matches that don't necessarily have the jeopardy that they may have had if they were in that relegation zone and there isn't a material difference there.”

Audience figures up this year? Do they mean attendance, compared to last year when no one was allowed in stadia? I can't believe that the number of eyes per week on rugby are up based on TV figures, especially as many fewer games have been shown on TV. I'd be surprised if Worcester vs. Bath gets 5000 attendees.
You can’t believe that viewing figures are up despite more games being on itv/channel 4 than previous years? The Sale/Leicester game had close to a million viewers. 1 game drew about 5 times the standard viewing figures. That audience rising, I’d assume, also includes the amount of people watching highlights on YouTube. The number of fans at stadiums is down about 200,000 over the season compared to the last full season, although that doesn’t take into account of the last game of the season yet to take place or the covid cancellations that took place. So even then, the statement that the figures are up is probably true. 
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I think Leicester's upturn in form has probably helped; London Irish are doing very nicely at Brentford; and Quins have taken two games to Twickenham, while Sarries had one at Tottenham's new ground a few weeks back.
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Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

...and the Telegraph today ran an article with the head of PRL, who said that they do intend to promote a team to get to 14 next year. Behind a paywall.


“Audience figures are up this year generally,” Massie-Taylor said. “We've specifically looked at matches that don't necessarily have the jeopardy that they may have had if they were in that relegation zone and there isn't a material difference there.”

Audience figures up this year? Do they mean attendance, compared to last year when no one was allowed in stadia? I can't believe that the number of eyes per week on rugby are up based on TV figures, especially as many fewer games have been shown on TV. I'd be surprised if Worcester vs. Bath gets 5000 attendees.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Richard Lowther Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jun 2022 at 22:30
Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

...and the Telegraph today ran an article with the head of PRL, who said that they do intend to promote a team to get to 14 next year. Behind a paywall.

Premiership relegation to return at end of 2023-24 season, league chief confirms
Simon Massie-Taylor also says it is 'a miracle' clubs survived Covid disruption, while ring-fencing has had no impact on interest levels

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Premiership relegation to return at end of 2023-24 season, league chief confirms
Simon Massie-Taylor says the league will be expanded to 14 teams after next season CREDIT: GETTY IMAGES
Premiership Rugby bosses have confirmed that they have no intention of permanently pulling up the drawbridge from the Championship despite Ealing’s failure to pass the minimum standards criteria.

After passing a moratorium on relegation last summer following Saracens’ promotion to the Premiership, Championship winners Ealing were denied a place in the top flight after their ground failed to meet the minimum capacity requirement. 

However, Premiership Rugby chief executive Simon Massie-Taylor insists the plan remains for the league to be expanded to 14 teams after next season. Promotion and relegation would then resume at the end of the 2023-24 campaign via a play-off between the Premiership’s bottom side and the Championship winners. 

“The intention was that we were moving to a 14-team league so it was disappointing that Ealing didn't pass the standards and come up,” Massie-Taylor said. “The expectation is that there'll be promotion next season then the agreement is promotion, and relegation after that. That was what was agreed by the RFU council.

“It is still the intention to have relegation going forward after this moratorium that was really important from a Covid recovery perspective. It was the right decision in order to preserve the 13 clubs that have existed within the Premiership. It's a miracle that they've survived after what has gone on over the last few years.”

Massie-Taylor also says that ring-fencing has had “no material difference” on interest levels in the Premiership.

Heading into the final round of regular season fixtures, Worcester v Bath could have been billed as a blockbuster relegation shootout. Instead it is a dead rubber that the league’s bottom clubs unsuccessfully attempted to bring forward so they could start their holidays earlier.

“Audience figures are up this year generally,” Massie-Taylor said. “We've specifically looked at matches that don't necessarily have the jeopardy that they may have had if they were in that relegation zone and there isn't a material difference there.”
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote islander Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jun 2022 at 21:51
Originally posted by OldNick OldNick wrote:

What has this thread got to do with the Championship?

It’s to do with whether there is movement to & fro between the Championship & the league above. This is of interest to many Championship followers, quite a few of whom (including you, ON) have commented on quite similar issues in the rival thread ‘Promoting the Championship’… 
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They'll pluck one then pull up the drawbridge. Just watch.
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...and the Telegraph today ran an article with the head of PRL, who said that they do intend to promote a team to get to 14 next year. Behind a paywall.
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Originally posted by billesleyexile billesleyexile wrote:

Originally posted by OldNick OldNick wrote:

What has this thread got to do with the Championship?

lack of promotion and relegation?
I think billesleyexile has answered your question OldNick
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote OldNick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jun 2022 at 10:41
Originally posted by tulip tulip wrote:

Originally posted by OldNick OldNick wrote:

What has this thread got to do with the Championship?
Not a lot to chat about on this forum Old Nick so I think we need to be flexible. 

Clubhouse chat is nice and flexible.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote billesleyexile Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jun 2022 at 10:34
Originally posted by OldNick OldNick wrote:

What has this thread got to do with the Championship?

lack of promotion and relegation?
keep the faith
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