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Paul10 
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Steve Diamond with the verbal diarrhea.
Ignore the headline on the click there's a lot more in the article.
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WEvans
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Pay the rugby creditors, stick two fingers up to everyone else they owe and welcome them back into the Championship. No thanks. Why pollute the Championship with clubs with no morals or integrity?
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"There will be no relegation this season but Diamond believes that kind of jeopardy is vital for the future of the Premiership – if the top Championship club satisfies the criteria put in place. He added: “My experience as an advisor is that one of the biggest hurdles is the criteria but you have to have a minimum criteria and I do welcome promotion and relegation. Not many people in my shoes would say that because it gives you another bit of motivation with the jeopardy of it. I am on a honeymoon at the moment because I can’t go down.” “If the clubs, and there are probably half a dozen clubs who would want to come up, if they fit the criteria of the minimum standards by all means invest in the team like the Premiership have and give it a crack." He still favours two of the major obstacles to a free gangway between the leagues - minimum standards and a play-off. Both are in place to tilt the playing field in favour of underperforming Premiership clubs rather than successful Championship clubs. Edited by Richard Lowther - 08 May 2024 at 13:56 |
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It doesn't say he agrees with the current min criteria just some form of.
I think most would agree there needs to be min standards for each level above probably L4 just the current ones for the prem are stupidly OTT to deliberately create a barrier and are also not even applied to those already in.
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That does not sound like constructive negotiations. More like "full and frank".
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Agree, not good news. When you read this bit: Bow has described the response of the MPs contacted as “very positive”. you think “well of course MPs were positive, they want you to vote for them in forthcoming election”. Pretty sure the Tories were making very positive noises about getting the Stadium for Cornwall built ahead of 2019 election?
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I have just read the article in the Telegraph about Harvey Biljon and the glass ceiling that sits above not only Championship Clubs and Championship players but also Championship coaches.
This is all depressingly familiar. There does not seem to be any desire by either the RFU or the current Premiership clubs to create a realistic pathway through the rugby pyramid up into the elite game. The schism in the game between the elite (10 clubs and the RFU Executive) and the rest of the game appears to be no closer to a solution because there doesn't appear to be the will or the desire from the tiny minority in the elite game to create this pathway. As I read this article, the statement from Cornish Pirates' Dicky Evans and the depressingly lack of any real constructive or progressive engagement between the RFU/Premiership and the Championship it appears to me that the only reason that the elite game is participating at all is to avoid directly snubbing the game at large with all of the bad PR that would create. I don't know when or how this farce will end but if there isn't the proper prospect of promotion and relegation with a fair meritocracy the game will not survive
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''The future isn't what it used to be''
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Frankly the day you ask this Government for help is the day you might as well give up all hope.
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This is all depressingly familiar. There does not seem to be any desire by either the RFU or the current Premiership clubs to create a realistic pathway through the rugby pyramid up into the elite game. The schism in the game between the elite (10 clubs and the RFU Executive) and the rest of the game appears to be no closer to a solution because there doesn't appear to be the will or the desire from the tiny minority in the elite game to create this pathway. [/QUOTE]
I don't agree with this bit. A good Championship Head Coach needs (amongst other things) to be able to quickly get a good squad together for one year, maybe two. A good Prem or URC Director of Rugby has a far wider remit including placing young players at Champ clubs. For me Biljoen's success at Jersey is no guarantee of success at, say, Leicester. The jobs are too different. I don't know but how many of the Champ Head Coaches were hired from clubs further down the structure. And not promoted up with the group.
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Please keep your far left, socialist political views, off this rugby discussion site. It is not the role of any Govt, to make up for the inadequacies of a sports governing body. |
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Competition comes from there being jeopardy, remove that and the competition goes out of sport.
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Please keep your ludicrous assumptions of my political views off this rugby discussion site. For the benefit of the hard of understanding I agree with your second line which is why I made my point about asking this Government for help. I said "this Government" because as far as I understand it we only have the one Government at the moment to ask.
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The sad thing about the game is, it seems a large proportion of rugby followers don't actually care about the game outside of their Premiership club and the England team. I posted the above article on some pro clubs forums to see if it generated any debate, not a word, nowhere. Those of us on here who follow club rugby at semi pro and amateur levels are of little or no interest it would seem. The odd thing is though, I bet there are more people involved in various ways in the game below the Premiership/England than there are in the privileged few. I guess it reflects society where the few rule over the many.
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