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WILD BOAR 1 
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 Posted: 26 Mar 2025 at 14:16 |
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SGM tomorrow @5pm any thoughts on the outcome?
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Rothman2
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Posted: 26 Mar 2025 at 15:26 |
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Do not pass Go. Do not collect £200.
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Kimbo
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Posted: 26 Mar 2025 at 17:09 |
Has Billy boy and his croney cabal done enough to earn his corn? Could be fun.
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gerg_861
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Posted: 26 Mar 2025 at 18:14 |
My guess, most who vote, vote for Bill to go, but the majority dont vote and so the RFU Board ignore the results.
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Paul10
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Posted: 26 Mar 2025 at 19:25 |
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My lad's club (L9) will vote in favour of the motion of no confidence.
I don't know about my ex club (L7).
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Steve@Mose
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Posted: 26 Mar 2025 at 19:43 |
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Mark W-J
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Posted: 26 Mar 2025 at 20:49 |
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The thing is, it's only a vote of no confidence. Even if the motion is carried, the Board don't have to sack Sweeney and he doesn't have to resign. I've heard that he won't resign, that he's determined to see out his tenure regardless of what the rank and file think of him.
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cheshire exile
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Posted: 26 Mar 2025 at 21:53 |
Good for your son’s club, wherever they are. Beaumont unfortunately has spent far too many years in fragrantly scented board rooms with delegates endorsing each other’s opinions. He has spent months trying to persuade clubs and council members that everything is marvellous; if only everyone could unite behind the status quo then manna would flow into every level of the game. Frankly it’s nauseating. Edited by cheshire exile - 27 Mar 2025 at 09:38 |
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Scrumtime
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Posted: 27 Mar 2025 at 10:29 |
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The thing is- no matter what the clubs want- he has done enough to get the majority of 57 behind him, so it will go to a board vote and he will stay.
This is just a case of window dressing and box ticking - the result does not matter and will count for nothing- They will say " at this present time we feel a change would make too much upheaval in the game and more time is needed" In a press statement about a week post tonights meeting Why do you think they are not announcing the 14th in Prem II till next week- because what they are about to do is very wrong- and if that came out before today it could cause all sorts of trouble, so It will brushed it under the carpet and slip it in next week, when people are still talking about the SGM- but yet again like todays vote they really don't give a to55 of the outcome. What you do know as long as eggs are eggs is the 14th side will already have a clear path to the Prem and have every box ticked - then we will have - " look we told you relegation and promotion to the Prem is open!" If any of them had anything about them and you cannot tell me they do not know already, they would have announced the addition already! Edited by Scrumtime - 27 Mar 2025 at 10:37 |
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JZSmith
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Posted: 27 Mar 2025 at 11:37 |
No change. And the contempt for the two Bills and their fellow trough dwellers will increase along with their salaries and perks.
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SK 88
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Posted: 27 Mar 2025 at 11:56 |
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Surely it will come down to proxy votes and who has been most successful in gaining those proxies?
You'd think that the RFU council members would be fairly adept at doing this and if most of those, particularly in the bigger/more engaged counties, are in favour of Sweeney as it seems he will most likely survive? I am surprised there hasn't been much of a campaign around the proxies, there was in the 98/99 SGM and the proxy vote is what split the game in 1895 when the London gentlemen's old boy clubs gave their proxy votes to the committee to win the day against the northern clubs.
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gerg_861
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Posted: 27 Mar 2025 at 18:49 |
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Swiney survives by quite a margin 206- 466
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Kimbo
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Posted: 27 Mar 2025 at 19:41 |
Never in doubt really.
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tigerburnie
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Posted: 27 Mar 2025 at 20:31 |
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Turkeys do vote for Xmas then
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Nat1
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Posted: 27 Mar 2025 at 21:07 |
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Interesting to see how vocal Wayne Barnes has been in supporting Sweeney et al. Obviously a well respected former international referee in his day, but is he now on the RFU payroll at Twickenham in some other capacity?
The second motion (that was passed) regarding devolving more power to the clubs is a good thing at least. Unless this is some token lip service from the RFU themselves of course. From the BBC rugby article: A second motion, which was brought forward by the RFU board, called for the expedition of governance reform, devolving more power to the community game. This motion was passed by 554 votes to 127. "These reforms will represent a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to change the RFU," said Paula Carter, RFU board member and council member for Surrey. Beaumont added: "Let us put this period of infighting behind us, and instead, unite behind a common mission to modernise the union and its structures. "Members have now given us an overwhelming mandate to shake up the archaic structures of how the game is run here, which continue to hold us back. "The RFU wants to modernise, and this is an unprecedented opportunity to do exactly that." |
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Karlos F
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Posted: 27 Mar 2025 at 22:14 |
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So just over 700 votes today, one-way or the other, plus abstentions.
Today's vote... How many rugby clubs in England? How many clubs are eligible to vote in England? I'm L5 supporter, gave up on the RFU years ago, but still love grassroots rugby and my local team.
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islander
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Posted: 28 Mar 2025 at 06:35 |
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Believe 12 or 13 hundred eligible clubs…
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Thatbloke
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Posted: 28 Mar 2025 at 09:42 |
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Tigerburnie,
I doubt any of the "turkeys" DID actually vote for Christmas!? Our 2 CB representatives canvassed all their 70odd member clubs encouraging them to vote against expediting the governance review arguing "more time was needed to complete a thorough review" which would also (which they failed to mention) preserve their enlightened positions firmly in the trough for as long as possible. As regards only 700odd clubs voting that really is disappointing as regrettably apathy still prevails making change of any sort very very difficult.
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Halliford
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Posted: 28 Mar 2025 at 10:57 |
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I sat in online for the SGM. I was very surprised not to hear a single comment or question from a Championship Club. Apparently Alistair Bow was there but sat quietly and left the support of the Resolution to Chichester and other grassroots clubs.
It was explained by Rob Udwin that Wayne Barnes is an RFU Board member and as such receives remuneration in that role.
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One For The Ditch
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Posted: 28 Mar 2025 at 12:21 |
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I too sat through the meeting, on line.
One of the problems we have is demographics....the President admitted to being involved on Council for over 25 years, some of the old and bold in the room, who were granted permission to ask questions, have been around since Pontious Pilate was a boy. It would be interesting to know the demographics of the incumbent group of Council Members representing CBs and how long they have sat on The Council. In my view it will be difficult to engineer and deliver necessary change if those charged with such activity needed an SGM as a call to action! They have the gift of making change to suit the needs of today's "game" and should not sit on supposed laurels of the last century. Bill Beaumont, when quizzed at the Stafford Road Show on how he hopes to deliver change with the present structure, gave the short response, and I quote verbatum, "Turkey's voting for Christmas". Perhaps at future AGMs/SGMs proxy votes should not be permitted, after all it is easy enough for individual Union members to vote via the online facility.
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