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What worries me is that although Leeds Beckett finished higher up BUCS Super Rugby than Loughborough - that is effectively Loughborough's second team.

There is a rumour on the tykes forum that they might play at Leeds Beckett ground.

It does not fill me with enthusiasm.


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Could well be N2N for 21/22? 
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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

What worries me is that although Leeds Beckett finished higher up BUCS Super Rugby than Loughborough - that is effectively Loughborough's second team.

There is a rumour on the tykes forum that they might play at Leeds Beckett ground.

It does not fill me with enthusiasm.





You might get a better (and cheaper) pint there than at Headingley
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I thought that the decision was already made that they are leaving Headingley. Unglamorous saroundings  indeed. There are a lot of decent grounds in Nat 1 with excellent playing surfaces and Mr Davies may get a shock at both the facilities and the standard of the league
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Not surprising given the club from the lesser code always treated Carnegie with disdain.
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Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Not surprising given the club from the lesser code always treated Carnegie with disdain.


Risable,the Rhinos have subsidised  Carnegie for the past 10 yrs in terms of training facilities,administration and use of Headingley.Rhinos also wrote off a six figure sum when Carnegie went bust.
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Originally posted by Fly Half Fly Half wrote:

Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Not surprising given the club from the lesser code always treated Carnegie with disdain.


Risable,the Rhinos have subsidised  Carnegie for the past 10 yrs in terms of training facilities,administration and use of Headingley.Rhinos also wrote off a six figure sum when Carnegie went bust.

Quite. Even more risible to still be using terms like 'lesser code'.
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They should have been thinking like this a year ago. I think Mr Davies is going to find it very tough in N1. Any thought of 'bouncing back' is unrealistic. 
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Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Not surprising given the club from the lesser code always treated Carnegie with disdain.


As the 'lesser code' club (your words not mine) are far more successful and YC were mere tenants who ruined the pitch quality each winter can you blame them.

This 'lesser code' attitude is typical of the RFU elite. - Rugby League is a different sport - the split happened a 100 years ago - get over it.

Incidentally, I would say League is one of the biggest factors for there being a paucity of Northern clubs in the top 3 levels - as it is basically a Northern game that doesn't really exist in this country outside of Lancashire and Yorkshire.
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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

What worries me is that although Leeds Beckett finished higher up BUCS Super Rugby than Loughborough - that is effectively Loughborough's second team.

There is a rumour on the tykes forum that they might play at Leeds Beckett ground.

It does not fill me with enthusiasm.




It's true that the BUCS team is essentially the club's second xv, but the RFU side isn't made up of students really, maybe a few 21 year olds but there are many loan players in there from Wasps & Leicester.
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Hopefully the start of the new world will be a name change back to Leeds
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Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Not surprising given the club from the lesser code always treated Carnegie with disdain.


As the 'lesser code' club (your words not mine) are far more successful and YC were mere tenants who ruined the pitch quality each winter can you blame them.

This 'lesser code' attitude is typical of the RFU elite. - Rugby League is a different sport - the split happened a 100 years ago - get over it.

Incidentally, I would say League is one of the biggest factors for there being a paucity of Northern clubs in the top 3 levels - as it is basically a Northern game that doesn't really exist in this country outside of Lancashire and Yorkshire.
Agreed.
Except that Warrington, Newcastle, Barrow, Workington,  Crusaders, London Skolars, London Broncos, Coventry, Raiders, Whitehaven (and Toulouse, Catalans, and Toronto) may well disagree with your closing statement (and that's just at the top three levels of the game).
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Originally posted by Wit Ball Wit Ball wrote:

Hopefully the start of the new world will be a name change back to Leeds

That much seems very likely. Everything else, including whether we stay at Headingley, is as clear as clarts at the moment.
That's easy for you to say.
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Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Not surprising given the club from the lesser code always treated Carnegie with disdain.

There is very little in sport lesser than Yorkshire Carnegie.
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Come on Kimbo Barrow and Warrington are traditional Lancashire towns.  ;-) 
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We tried telling the Lancashire clubs that when they comlained about having to travel :-)
I think he may have confused Workington (Cumberland) with Warrington (Cheshire).
I am not sure either were ever in Lanashire.


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Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Not surprising given the club from the lesser code always treated Carnegie with disdain.


As the 'lesser code' club (your words not mine) are far more successful and YC were mere tenants who ruined the pitch quality each winter can you blame them.

This 'lesser code' attitude is typical of the RFU elite. - Rugby League is a different sport - the split happened a 100 years ago - get over it.

Incidentally, I would say League is one of the biggest factors for there being a paucity of Northern clubs in the top 3 levels - as it is basically a Northern game that doesn't really exist in this country outside of Lancashire and Yorkshire.
Agreed.
Except that Warrington, Newcastle, Barrow, Workington,  Crusaders, London Skolars, London Broncos, Coventry, Raiders, Whitehaven (and Toulouse, Catalans, and Toronto) may well disagree with your closing statement (and that's just at the top three levels of the game).

Nicely played there on ducking where Raiders play now/this week! Seriously I don't know off the top of my head and I'm a Rugby League World subscriber! I do know that they *have* played in Merthyr, Mountain Ash, Caerphilly, Maesteg, Neath and Blackwood RFC while on their travels...


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Lancashire county boundaries can be found here.  http://www.forl.co.uk/
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I stand corrected on Warrington.
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