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Brighton 0 - 5 Hertford
North Walsham 1 - 4 Dorking
Sevenoaks 5 - 0 Tring
Sidcup 0 - 5 Westcombe Park
Sutton & Epsom 5 - 1 Maidenhead
Wimbledon 5 - 0 Tunbridge Wells
Havant 5 - 0 CS Stags
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Brighton 0-5 Hertford 
North Walsham 5-2 Dorking
Sevenoaks 5-0 Tring
Sidcup 2-5 Westcombe Pk
S&E 5-0 Maidenhead 
Wimbledon 5-0 Tunbridge Wells 
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Brighton 0 Hertford
North Walsham 4 Dorking 1
Sevenoaks   5 Tring 0
Sidcup 1   Westcombe Park 4
Sutton & Epsom 1   Maidenhead 4
Wimbledon 5 Tunbridge Wells 0
Havant 5 CS Stags 0
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Brighton 0 v 5 Herts
NW          5 v 2 Dorking
7Oaks.    5 v 0 Tring
Sidcup.   1 v 4 WP
S&E.        5 v 2 Maids
Dons.      5 v O RTW
Havant.  5 v 1 CS 
Turned down a lunch at Worthing vs. Redruth tomorrow 🧐  



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Brighton 0 Hertford 5
N Walsham 4 Dorking 1
Sevenoaks 5 Tring 0
Sidcup 1 Westcombe Pk 4
Sutton & E 0 Maidenhead 5
Wimbledon 5 T Wells 0
Havant 5 CS Stags 0
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It seems that CS Stags should be now really called

CS plus Ealing Trailfinders Academy Players  Stags




Edited by HAVANT TONY - 03 Apr 2022 at 09:50
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You moan a lot Tony. Does it matter
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Sounds like you've had too many shandys surrey rugby 🥴

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Tony,
Well if it's not April fools...
Rugby's corinthian spirit is still alive and kicking,
better than a cancelled game for both clubs.
Should be a good game if the 6 u20, 6 nations players are on show.
I'm sure the rattlers will give them a warm welcome.
I've adjusted my prediction, cheers😉

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Originally posted by HAVANT TONY HAVANT TONY wrote:

It seems that CS Stags should be now really called

CS plus Ealing Trailfinders Academy Players  Stags

WTF is going on there ????

Civil Service putting taxpayers' money to good use there. Wink Sir Humphrey making sure all that extra NI money is invested wisely 
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Brighton 1-5 Hertford
North Walsham 4-1 Dorking
Sevenoaks 5-0 Tring
Sidcup 1-5 Westcombe Park
Sutton & Epsom 1-4 Maidenhead
Wimbledon 5-0 Tunbridge Wells
Havant 1-4 CS Stags
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Originally posted by HAVANT TONY HAVANT TONY wrote:

It seems that CS Stags should be now really called

CS plus Ealing Trailfinders Academy Players  Stags

WTF is going on there ????

From what i can see is 2 ealing academy players in the line up - and have played a number of games for Stags this season. 

None of the 6 u20 6 Nations players are in the lineup. 

It should be fair to mention, 2 of those said players played a Richmond Vikings side that beat Brunel 42-8 (The saxons beat them 48-0) in a league that is classified as being equivalent to Level 5. So whilst they may be deemed of a higher level amongst their age group, this does not mean the players are too good for level 5 rugby yet. 


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Originally posted by dropout22 dropout22 wrote:

Originally posted by HAVANT TONY HAVANT TONY wrote:

It seems that CS Stags should be now really called

CS plus Ealing Trailfinders Academy Players  Stags

WTF is going on there ????

From what i can see is 2 ealing academy players in the line up - and have played a number of games for Stags this season. 

None of the 6 u20 6 Nations players are in the lineup. 

It should be fair to mention, 2 of those said players played a Richmond Vikings side that beat Brunel 42-8 (The saxons beat them 48-0) in a league that is classified as being equivalent to Level 5. So whilst they may be deemed of a higher level amongst their age group, this does not mean the players are too good for level 5 rugby yet. 

I thought you could only loan players 2 leagues away from the mother club 

So that would be at Nat 2 level not Regional Prem league 
Unless the RFU have stepped in to help Stags get a side out 
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Originally posted by Scrumtime Scrumtime wrote:

Originally posted by dropout22 dropout22 wrote:

Originally posted by HAVANT TONY HAVANT TONY wrote:

It seems that CS Stags should be now really called

CS plus Ealing Trailfinders Academy Players  Stags

WTF is going on there ????


From what i can see is 2 ealing academy players in the line up - and have played a number of games for Stags this season. 

None of the 6 u20 6 Nations players are in the lineup. 

It should be fair to mention, 2 of those said players played a Richmond Vikings side that beat Brunel 42-8 (The saxons beat them 48-0) in a league that is classified as being equivalent to Level 5. So whilst they may be deemed of a higher level amongst their age group, this does not mean the players are too good for level 5 rugby yet. 



I thought you could only loan players 2 leagues away from the mother club 

So that would be at Nat 2 level not Regional Prem league 
Unless the RFU have stepped in to help Stags get a side out 


I think it may depend on the age of the DR/Loan player - certainly First year Premiership Academy players are allowed to play in Nat2 which is 3 levels away from the mother club.
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Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Scrumtime Scrumtime wrote:

Originally posted by dropout22 dropout22 wrote:

Originally posted by HAVANT TONY HAVANT TONY wrote:

It seems that CS Stags should be now really called

CS plus Ealing Trailfinders Academy Players  Stags

WTF is going on there ????


From what i can see is 2 ealing academy players in the line up - and have played a number of games for Stags this season. 

None of the 6 u20 6 Nations players are in the lineup. 

It should be fair to mention, 2 of those said players played a Richmond Vikings side that beat Brunel 42-8 (The saxons beat them 48-0) in a league that is classified as being equivalent to Level 5. So whilst they may be deemed of a higher level amongst their age group, this does not mean the players are too good for level 5 rugby yet. 



I thought you could only loan players 2 leagues away from the mother club 

So that would be at Nat 2 level not Regional Prem league 
Unless the RFU have stepped in to help Stags get a side out 


I think it may depend on the age of the DR/Loan player - certainly First year Premiership Academy players are allowed to play in Nat2 which is 3 levels away from the mother club.


A quick search turns up, "Loan Players 14.6.5 An application for registration of a Loan Player will not be accepted where: (a) in respect of Clubs at Level 2 (Championship) and below, the applicant Club is more than two Levels below the level of the loaning/parent Club; and (b) in respect of Clubs at Level 1 (Premiership) the applicant Club is more than one Level below the level of the loaning/parent Club. This does not apply to Loan Players who are being be loaned to a Club in the Levels above the loaning/parent Club, subject to Regulation 14.3.5."

That's in respect of adult male players. I can't, on a quick search, find anything about Academy players and loans.

Restrictions on numbers of loan players, "13.4.4 Loan and England Academy Players A Club may not play or select as a replacement or substitute in a Match more than the number of Players set out below:...

(d) Level 4 and below: four players from another Club of which no more than three shall be Loan Players and the others (up to the maximum of four) must be England Academy Players under the age of 24 as at 1 September 2021. After the Transfer Deadline, only those England Academy Players who have already played or been selected as a replacement or substitute in a League or Cup Match for the Club’s first XV prior to the Transfer Deadline will be permitted to be selected in a League or Cup Match for the Club’s first XV, unless otherwise approved by the RFU Head of Academies."


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Originally posted by BruceElliott BruceElliott wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Scrumtime Scrumtime wrote:

Originally posted by dropout22 dropout22 wrote:

Originally posted by HAVANT TONY HAVANT TONY wrote:

It seems that CS Stags should be now really called

CS plus Ealing Trailfinders Academy Players  Stags

WTF is going on there ????


From what i can see is 2 ealing academy players in the line up - and have played a number of games for Stags this season. 

None of the 6 u20 6 Nations players are in the lineup. 

It should be fair to mention, 2 of those said players played a Richmond Vikings side that beat Brunel 42-8 (The saxons beat them 48-0) in a league that is classified as being equivalent to Level 5. So whilst they may be deemed of a higher level amongst their age group, this does not mean the players are too good for level 5 rugby yet. 



I thought you could only loan players 2 leagues away from the mother club 

So that would be at Nat 2 level not Regional Prem league 
Unless the RFU have stepped in to help Stags get a side out 


I think it may depend on the age of the DR/Loan player - certainly First year Premiership Academy players are allowed to play in Nat2 which is 3 levels away from the mother club.



A quick search turns up, "Loan Players
14.6.5 An application for registration of a Loan Player will not be accepted where: (a) in
respect of Clubs at Level 2 (Championship) and below, the applicant Club is more than
two Levels below the level of the loaning/parent Club; and (b) in respect of Clubs at
Level 1 (Premiership) the applicant Club is more than one Level below the level of the
loaning/parent Club. This does not apply to Loan Players who are being be loaned to a
Club in the Levels above the loaning/parent Club, subject to Regulation 14.3.5."

That's in respect of adult male players. I can't, on a quick search, find anything about Academy players and loans.

Restrictions on numbers of loan players, "13.4.4 Loan and England Academy Players
A Club may not play or select as a replacement or substitute in a Match more than the number
of Players set out below:...

(d) Level 4 and below: four players from another Club of which no more than three
shall be Loan Players and the others (up to the maximum of four) must be
England Academy Players under the age of 24 as at 1 September 2021. After the
Transfer Deadline, only those England Academy Players who have already played
or been selected as a replacement or substitute in a League or Cup Match for the Club’s first XV prior to the Transfer Deadline will be permitted to be selected in
a League or Cup Match for the Club’s first XV, unless otherwise approved by the
RFU Head of Academies."




I note your explanation makes no mention of DR players - presumably there is a slight difference.

'England Academy players who haven't played for a club before transfer deadline day can only join if approved by RFU Head of Academies' - this loophole has already been used by a team at level 4.


At the end of the day, it is never good to see a club go under, so the fact CS are still playing must be for the greater good.

Hopefully they will be able to sort themselves out for next season.
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It was not the cricket score we were expecting  yesterday at the lane. CS turned up and saved our last home game of the season, easily a thousand people packed the lane and CS gave a good account for themselves 
Was speaking to one of their supporters  and the RFU had told them they must be competitive and they were exactly that!
I hope their club secretary is ok as he was taken ill at the end of the game, he gave a great speech at the lunch, hope he has a speedy recovery


Edited by HAVANT TONY - 05 Apr 2022 at 10:56
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I think after this week's results we can safely says that Sevenoaks have achieved promotion as champions a "mighty" effort good luck in N2S  ClapClapClap
 


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Erm...... let's get the maths right. Yes they have been promoted but at this stage only on the basis that they have already attained enough points to secure at least one of the two best 3rd placed finishes (More than the potential 3rds in the Midlands and the North are able to achieve)
So yes many congratulations on your promotion but not champions, or indeed runners up....... Yet! 
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Just my opinion can't see them losing now 

Not my clubs promotion far from it LOLLOLLOL 


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