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Because that worked so well in Wales.
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Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Heaven forbid we have anything like the 100 in rugby. It made a complete mockery of cricket. I can't believe they are involving one of the clowns behind it in the Premiership. I fear if he has his way, we'll get soulless Franchises in rugby. 
Did you see one of the proposals suggested last week (it might have been for a proposed Prem/ Champ Cup) was for captains to nominate an opposition player to spend 10 minutes in the bin?  If an officially-sanctioned body can come up with that then I think I'd rather watch the Hundred!

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Telegraph Sport understands that the group’s reforms, presented by RFU director of performance rugby Conor O'Shea, include:
  • A sin-bin ‘Power Play’, where each captain can nominate an opposition player to spend 10 minutes in the bin once a game
  • Incentivising tries scored from outside the opposition’s 22
  • Reducing the amount of kick-tennis
  • Reducing the time wasted by reset scrums
The RFU has assembled a working party to discuss giving the competition greater appeal. Jamie George, the Saracens and England hooker, Mark McCall, George’s director of rugby, Sir Ian McGeechan, the Scotland and Lions legend, and Lee Blackett, the former Wasps coach, are all among those included in the group assembled to embellish any future cup competition, which will incorporate both Premiership and Championship clubs.


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It wasn't that long ago that Itoje was quoted as saying the premiership needed to take lessons from American Football and make games more of a spectacle. Marler also said something about the need to expand rugby to new audiences. Now Jamie George included on working party to give the game greater appeal.

I'm a terrible cynic but I wouldn't mind betting that this is part of a CVC/prem rugby PR strategy to start slowly building support towards glitz, glamour and destruction of the game as we know it. 
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The statement by Maisie-Taylor just shows the staggering arrogance that has become the hall mark of the PRL and the RFU. Unbelievable.
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Sir Ian McGeechan, he's full of good ideas, not.  Last one he had was to create a Yorkshire rugby club based at his sides ground and expected other Yorkshire clubs fans to ditch old alliances to support them.

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Originally posted by FHLH FHLH wrote:

Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

I want the strongest teams in the Premiership, anyone that wants a specific team to succeed is not being an honest broker.

I've been on this Forum for almost 14 years and the one consistent theme throughout that time is that the RFU have no interest in clubs below the Premiership. 

I'm sure EGMs have been mentioned - but who will put their head above the parapet. The fact is that the Premiership cartel is solid. Even losing the taxpayer £m seems irrelevant, we've been talking about French style financial tests for years. 

I now enjoy the beauty of National league rugby and banana England and the Premiership.

(If I were closer to a Championship club I'd visit them, no offence 😁😁) 

Absolutely right. The Premiership has been a totally Lovely competition since Saracens were allowed to get away with cheating for years and years despite warnings and everyone knowing what was going on. Now it seems the RFU want to Lovely the Championship as well.

Rugby as a sport will soon end when you get as high as Nat One.
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Originally posted by ParkBench ParkBench wrote:

The quote that jumped out at me from Maisie-Taylor in that BBC article was the one where they state they want Warriors and Wasps back in the elite fold as quickly as possible but in the meantime want to make the second tier a less scary place for their favoured clubs: 

"You want a Championship which clubs feel more comfortable relegated into. And you also want something where Wasps and Worcester are germinated back to being a successful club again - because we want Wasps and Worcester back in the Premiership."

There might well be some good intentions lurking beneath the arrogance and entitlement but I struggle to see it.






Might this have something to do having to buy P shares back at something close to the valuation on the balance sheets of premiership clubs … probably.

This situation might even open up more of the ‘rights’ being bought by outside investors at a bargain price. VCs will want a return and an exit strategy usually while they build up debt in their victims… sorry ‘partners’. They do not put their time and money in for free!
What a blessing it would be if we could open and shut our ears as easily as we open and shut our eyes!
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