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BigChief ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() London Scottish Joined: 12 May 2009 Location: Surrey Status: Offline Points: 782 |
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The wider membership had no appetite for this route either
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Richard Lowther ![]() Coaching staff ![]() ![]() Moderator Joined: 19 May 2007 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 6644 |
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You go away for a few days and come back on April's Fools day apparently...
No existing Premiership club would leave the RFU as they provide the funding which far outweighs any other option and the one thing we know about Premiership clubs is they need the money... As for Ealing, I dispair. I fail to understand their model and not getting their ducks in a row for promotion for the second year running and now this daft idea of redrawing the border... Madness.
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Dad ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 03 Oct 2013 Location: berks Status: Offline Points: 498 |
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How would trailfinders have a mens team in sru and a women's playing in rfu prem 15's simultaneously
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Robb ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jan 2017 Location: South East Status: Offline Points: 1722 |
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There was a London South Africa briefly (and a London Springboks before they merged with Sudbury to be officially Sudbury and London Springboks). They tried to buy their way into the Championship and then tried to buy Wimbledon and rebrand them (where have we heard that before?!). In the end they did well in the lower leagues for a while before mysteriously disappearing in 2014. |
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Mark W-J ![]() Coaching staff ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 May 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3802 |
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They tried to buy Wakefield's place in National Two when they were relegated, but then started near the bottom of the pyramid. They even got Dick Best in as DoR for a while.
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Cricks at 2 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 08 Dec 2015 Location: Bedford Status: Offline Points: 537 |
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Well I am walking down to Goldington Road in about 3 hours. We are playing Doncaster in the cup, in which we have no chance of progressing.
However, there will still be a sizeable crowd and the Blues team is as good as we can field against a Doncaster side that needs a couple of points to seal a place in the next round, so they will be well up for it. For me that is the whole point, a competitive match at home on a Saturday afternoon. Two damn good sides giving no quarter. The prem can go hang, give me a home (and away) match every week from September to May by increasing the size of the Championship to fit. Is that too much to ask?
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KnightsBoy ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Location: Doncaster Status: Offline Points: 3261 |
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No it isnt
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Brizzer ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Mar 2012 Location: Jersey Status: Offline Points: 3398 |
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Oh come on Cricks. That is too logical, too easy and way too popular for the RFU to implement. You’re living in cloud cuckoo land man!! |
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Tackle Low!!!!!
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Abbotsman ![]() First XV regular ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Mar 2019 Location: Gloucester Status: Offline Points: 62 |
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As others have said look no further than National League 1 & 2. A very good standard of rugby all played Saturday at 3 o'clock or there abouts. In my opinion the Championship has had an identity issue for years. Watching the Championship since Hartpury joined we've had the relegated side from the Prem almost certain to go back up along with a side who broke the rules and was going back up whatever, mixed with a few full time clubs chasing a place at the top table that never comes. Then you have the ever presents like Bedford & Nottingham along with the likes of Pury, Scottish & Richmond looking over thier shoulder to avoid the relegation if there is relegation. A Premiership with an odd number of teams? Something wrong there.
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WEvans ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 08 Dec 2016 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 1456 |
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I'd also add knowledge of how promotion and relegation will operate before the season starts. Not that this is just a Championship problem of course. More a problem of any league administered by the RFU.
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FHLH ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Cambridge Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 5662 |
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You're lucky with Championship at Bedford & Ampthill, Cambridge in National 1 not too far and Bedford Athletic in lower leagues. I'm happy with National 1 standard, although it would be great to have a knockout Cup Competition with Championship clubs as a measure. Be great to have England Counties touring again! I blame the East Stand overspend of £25m+
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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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dropout22 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 03 Jul 2017 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 526 |
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They'll be moving to the URC i bet. It's been on the horizon for the club since 2019.
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IainS ![]() Academy player ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Apr 2022 Location: Hertfordshire Status: Offline Points: 10 |
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Interesting to see Nick Cain’s column in the Rugby Paper this morning which appears to suggest that Ealing haven’t really engaged with the premiership criteria application this season because Mike Gooley is determined to have a legal showdown to break the premiership’s restrictive practices. Have to say I did wonder when there was no outcry from the club this week.
Ealing withdrew legal action last year on a promise that a practical solution would be found. Yet what was agreed was simply a reiteration of the previous 10,001 criteria, with the minor concession that actual construction might be delayed by a season if planning permission was in place. No prospect of sustainable phased ground expansion over time. Whatever one’s feelings about Ealing’s low crowds and lack of market for a further Premiership Club in West London, I say good luck to them if they are finally going to take the Premiership’s protectionist and anti-competitive methods on in the courts. It is time these things were put to the proof. |
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*Stalwart ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 15 Oct 2022 Location: Penzance Status: Offline Points: 353 |
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Good luck to Ealing, if they can break this cartel it's good for rugby in general. However, promotion to the Premiership is a poisoned chalice at the moment. Who would really want to join the chaos that reigns at the moment?
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ParkBench ![]() British and Irish Lion ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Oct 2013 Location: Richmond Status: Offline Points: 158 |
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I’m sure I read last year that they’d taken on some very expensive counsel and were in a great position to take on PRL and the RFU. Then they dropped the threat and we had the quotes from the RFU about the need for sustainability which looked like a move in the right direction. In the aftermath of the Wasps and Worcester debacle and the RFU’s hounding in front of the DCMS their adherence to a (largely) unchanged set of criteria doesn’t sit well with the wider rugby-supporting and sporting public. I hope Mike Gooley wipes the floor with them. When Bournemouth secured promotion to the Premier League and their lovely (little) ground didn’t meet the League’s minimum standard rules the League rewrote the rules.
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Trailfinder ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 2017 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 459 |
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I’m desperately trying to reserve judgement until Ealing release a statement but the silence so far is agonising!
I’m wary of creating conflict with RFU/PRL, not exactly great grounds for constructive ongoing relations. I suspect there are some real safety issues of building a 10k+1 stadium due to the limited access at Vallis way and maybe they just want to break the requirement so that 5k becomes the new minimum. Merging with a Welsh region is surely a negotiation tactic. None of the mainstream outlets have picked up the story so I take it with a pinch of salt. I’m delighted Donny have been approved though, hopefully it will give them some added impetus to make the step up. Although who knows what the league structure will look like in the next couple of seasons.
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maire23 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Apr 2019 Location: Nottingham Status: Offline Points: 349 |
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I also read in the Rugby Paper that there’s a meeting this week with Championship clubs about the structure of the league for the coming season.
I remarked to my husband this morning that said meeting could be interesting. Particularly with the more outspoken leaders in the Championship, thinking especially of my own club Nottingham- Mr Bow isn’t exactly the shy and retiring type when it comes to subjects like this and it will be very interesting to see what the verdict is. As for Ealing, I read the column in the Rugby Paper too and I have to agree with hoping that Sir Mike and his big scary London lawyers wipe the proverbial floor with the RFU. About time someone stood up to them.
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castleparknight ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Jun 2012 Location: Doncaster Status: Offline Points: 3077 |
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My only worry for Ealing is have they been certified at 5k capacity? We know the ground can hold it but if they aren’t certified will this not exclude them at the first hurdle?
Fully agree that there should be a legal challenge but won’t the RFU counter with, we reduced the minimum criteria to 5k and Ealing haven’t met this basic criteria.
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Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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No 7 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Oct 2011 Location: LONDON Status: Offline Points: 1957 |
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More chance of the JERSEY RED RUSCKIES. with your Russian connections .
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Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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Brizzer ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Mar 2012 Location: Jersey Status: Offline Points: 3398 |
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Steady on! |
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Tackle Low!!!!!
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