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Topic: Pre-season Fixtures
Posted By: Kimbo
Subject: Pre-season Fixtures
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2023 at 17:06
Cov have so far announced Leicester Lions on 19/8/23 at the BPA, and Mose at the Common on 25/8/23.

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Posted By: workerbee
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2023 at 21:28
Under what laws are Coventry playing Leicester Lions Level 3 will be playing with the new Tackle law.


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2023 at 00:13
Originally posted by workerbee workerbee wrote:

Under what laws are Coventry playing Leicester Lions Level 3 will be playing with the new Tackle law.
The same ones that they'll be playing Mose under...

Who knows - but I'd be inclined to imagine Champ rules as it's not a league game and the season won't have started. Could be wrong.


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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2023 at 09:01
Oh, and entry includes the Beer Festival, street food, gin tent, and live music at full time.

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Posted By: Mickyboy
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2023 at 12:16
My Understanding is because of the New laws Championship sides cannot play League 1 or below even in Friendlies. 


Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2023 at 13:12
Cov is the Dodge City of the Wild West(Midlands), laws are there to be broken lol


Posted By: cheshire exile
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2023 at 13:21
Originally posted by Mickyboy Mickyboy wrote:

My Understanding is because of the New laws Championship sides cannot play League 1 or below even in Friendlies. 

Pirates have home and away fixtures against Plymouth Albion in August,


Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2023 at 14:43
Sorry wrong chat


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2023 at 15:22
Originally posted by tigerburnie tigerburnie wrote:

Cov is the Dodge City of the Wild West(Midlands), laws are there to be broken lol
At leas they dunt talk funny lark.


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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2023 at 17:18
Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Originally posted by tigerburnie tigerburnie wrote:

Cov is the Dodge City of the Wild West(Midlands), laws are there to be broken lol
At leas they dunt talk funny lark.
Ya missed orf the " me duck" at the end.....................


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2023 at 17:35
Originally posted by tigerburnie tigerburnie wrote:

Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Originally posted by tigerburnie tigerburnie wrote:

Cov is the Dodge City of the Wild West(Midlands), laws are there to be broken lol
At leas they dunt talk funny lark.
Ya missed orf the " me duck" at the end.....................
When I moved to Leics in the early 80s I nearly tw@tted the first bloke to say that to me Wink


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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2023 at 12:07
Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Originally posted by workerbee workerbee wrote:

Under what laws are Coventry playing Leicester Lions Level 3 will be playing with the new Tackle law.
The same ones that they'll be playing Mose under...

Who knows - but I'd be inclined to imagine Champ rules as it's not a league game and the season won't have started. Could be wrong.
New tackle laws according to the Lions farcebook page??


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2023 at 12:21
Originally posted by tigerburnie tigerburnie wrote:

Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Originally posted by workerbee workerbee wrote:

Under what laws are Coventry playing Leicester Lions Level 3 will be playing with the new Tackle law.
The same ones that they'll be playing Mose under...

Who knows - but I'd be inclined to imagine Champ rules as it's not a league game and the season won't have started. Could be wrong.
New tackle laws according to the Lions farcebook page??
OK, that's fair enough I guess. 


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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2023 at 23:35
Cambridge
19th August away Carmarthen
26th August home Chinnor

I do not know how the tackle situation has been sorted.



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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2023 at 16:28
Ealing - Away to Zebre 26th August. I will be in the U.S. for that. Gutted.


Posted By: HookerPaul
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2023 at 18:28
I have heard, not official, that all Champ clubs playing friendlies against lower league opposition will have to adopt the new tackle laws.


Posted By: Whistle watcher
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2023 at 07:13
Originally posted by HookerPaul HookerPaul wrote:

I have heard, not official, that all Champ clubs playing friendlies against lower league opposition will have to adopt the new tackle laws.

I know that Coventry will be playing to the tackle "law" (which isn't changed at all, just enforces what the law says already about high tackles.  

You know, because Champ sides, like the sides in the leagues below it,  have such high tackle related concussion rates.

Don't get me started.


Posted By: billesleyexile
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2023 at 08:24
Originally posted by HookerPaul HookerPaul wrote:

I have heard, not official, that all Champ clubs playing friendlies against lower league opposition will have to adopt the new tackle laws.

which makes sense - they can revert to 'normal' (as mentioned below, er, pretty much not applying the actual laws) again afterwards, while the lower sides will be desperately trying to prepare for, er, having pretty much the actual laws properly applied. So are in more need of practice. 


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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2023 at 15:46
I see Nottingham are visiting Welford Road on Friday evening, the 1st of September for a pre season game.


Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2023 at 19:56
Blues have confirmed they have Saints at home on 26 Aug 1:30pm


Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2023 at 13:37
I loved this one which they even did 40 years ago when I played:
https://www.youtube.com/user/JRFCTVofficial" rel="nofollow - Jersey Reds TV - YouTube



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Posted By: Mountain Man
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2023 at 22:19
Doesn't this show how absolutely stupid these new laws, which split the levels, are? Introduced by buffoons who should not be in control of the game that most of us have loved  and invested in for years!


Posted By: Mountain Man
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2023 at 22:37
[QUOTE=corporalcarrot]I loved this one which they even did 40 years ago when I played:
https://www.youtube.com/user/JRFCTVofficial" rel="nofollow - Jersey Reds TV - YouTube

Redcar beach


Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2023 at 00:36
Typical Blues…

FT Swansea 35-45 (7 tries) Blues


Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2023 at 14:36
Look forward to seeing results/observations on today's games, believe we have:

- Pirates/Albion
- Cov/LeicsLions
- Carmarthen/Cambridge
- RGC/Donny
- SaleFC/Caldy

There may be others too.

Pleased that after a bit of a wait to nail it down, it's confirmed that Jersey Reds will travel to Richmond next Saturday, August 26th - KO at 2pm. Looking forward to it...


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2023 at 15:44
Cov 7-7 LL at HT.

Cov decidedly off colour and frankly don't deserve to be evens at this stage. Full of errors, and the penalty count against is ridiculous. Second half against the wind too, fielding a different side, but arguably weaker in several positions.
Kvesic did nowt, and the pack was generally very poor indeed.
Taking nothing from LL though - they should be in the mix at the end of the season.

Much better start to the second, with a quick Hutler try.
14-7

And another from Rigg.
21-7
Forwards have suddenly clicked...

And then, Cov down to 14 (yc) and LL hit back
21-14

And again
21-21. Breakaway try, and Dan Lewis having a good day from the tee

Opoku hits back immediately
26-21

Sweeping move finishes with a try under the sticks for Academy boy Theo Mannion.
33-21

33-21 FT. Must do better.



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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2023 at 17:16
Thanks Kimbo...


Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2023 at 17:20
Cheers Kimbo, glad to hear the Lions are clicking together.


Posted By: Geoff DC
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2023 at 17:30
Pirates 45 Albion 5


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2023 at 17:34
Originally posted by tigerburnie tigerburnie wrote:

Cheers Kimbo, glad to hear the Lions are clicking together.
They look pretty impressive.


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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2023 at 17:47
Old rivals Hinckley on Thursday


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2023 at 18:06
RGC 7 Donny 12 @40 mins


Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2023 at 18:25
HT Carmarthen 10 - 12 Cambridge


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2023 at 18:38
RGC 7 Donny 17 @58 mins


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2023 at 18:56
RGC 7 Donny 41 @75 mins


Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2023 at 19:34
FT Sale FC 7 - 14 Caldy 


Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2023 at 19:35
FT Carmarthen 13 - 17 Cambridge


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2023 at 08:59
RGC 7 Donny 41 ft



Posted By: Member728
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2023 at 16:24
Neath 14 Richmond 31

Jersey at the RAG this Saturday


Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2023 at 19:00
Originally posted by Member728 Member728 wrote:

Neath 14 Richmond 31

Jersey at the RAG this Saturday

Hope to see you there 728 Thumbs Up


Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2023 at 12:20
Blues v Saints tomorrow at 1:30pm, live stream for anyone wanting to watch some rugby!

I would hope looking at the 2 squads it should be a close game.  Interesting Saints aren't using many 1st teamers and wonder if this could be how Premiership Cup teams could look like.  The Saints in Blue have been regulars for Blues the last few seasons.

Bedford Blues Forwards

Jamie Jack, Joey Conway, James Fish, Jacob Fields, Bryan O’Connor, Oisin Heffernan, Robin Williams, Jordan Onojaife, Alex Woolford, Jac Arthur, Luke Frost, Kieran Curran, Joe Howard, Cameron King

Bedford Blues Backs

James Lennon, Alex Day, Will Maisey, Louis Grimoldby, Dean Adamson, Jordan Venter, Ethan Grayson, Ed Coulson, Pat Tapley, Seán French, Matt Worley

15 George Hendy
14 Will Glister
13 Tom Litchfield
12 Joel Matavesi

11 Tom Seabrook
10 James Grayson
9 Archie McParland

1 Luke Green*
2 Tom Cruse (c)
3 Elliott Millar Mills
4 Emeka Atuanya
5 Angus Scott-Young
6 Reuben Logan
7 Henry Pollock
8 James Cherry*

Replacements:
16 Aston Gradwick-Light
17 Craig Wright
18 George Patten
19 Ed Prowse
20 Theo Vukasinovic*
21 Izaiha Moore-Aiono*
22 Henri Lavin*
23 Jake Garside
24 Matthew Arden
25 Toby Fricker*
26 Oscar Daniel*
27 Ewan Baker



Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2023 at 13:04
For saints Pollack, McP, Baker, glister and logan step up from last years academy side.

Logan of Kenny and Gabby fame.


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2023 at 20:06
Mose 3-14 Cov. Rigg T, Tyas T, Mitchell 2C.

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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2023 at 20:17
Mose 3-21 Cov (Martin/Mitchell)



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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2023 at 20:20
Mose 3-28 Cov (James/Mitchell)

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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2023 at 20:31
Mose 10-28
1T-4T
HT


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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2023 at 20:49
Mose 10-33 Cov (Martin)

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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2023 at 20:52
Mose 10-40 Cov (Poole/Mitchell)
1T-6T


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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2023 at 21:04
Mose 10-47 Cov (Lane/Mitchell)
1T-7T
Mose player red-carded for hit on Lane (head) following score.


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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2023 at 21:07
Mose 10-54 Cov (Chilvers/Mannion)
1T-8T
Both sides down to 14 following Cov YC)


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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2023 at 21:09
Mose 17-54 Cov
2T-8T


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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2023 at 21:20
Mose 24-54 Cov
3T-8T)


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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2023 at 21:24
Mose 24-61 Cov (Wand/Mannion)
3T-9T


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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2023 at 21:29
Mose 24-68 Cov (Wand/Mannion)
3T-10T

And that's FT


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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2023 at 08:30

Jersey Reds squad v Richmond (A) 2023/24 pre-season, Richmond Athletic Ground, Saturday August 26th, k-o 2pm (* debut)

1st Half - Backs (15-9)
Brendan Owen; Robin Wedlake*, Charlie Powell, Jordan Holgate, Pete Sullivan*; Ben Burnell, James Mitchell.
1st Half - Forwards (1-8)
Greg McGrath, Daf Hughes*, Adam Nicol, Joe Peard*, James Scott, Thom Smith*, Lewis Wynne (capt), Hallam Chapman.

2nd Half squad
Forwards: James Hadfield, Harry Doolan, Huw Owen, Sam Grahamslaw, Monty Weatherby, Steve Longwell, John Hawkins*, Max Argyle, Ciaran Booth*, Alun Lawrence, Tim Grey.
Backs: James Elliott, Toby Venner, Russell Bennett, Josh Barton*, Dan Barnes, Alex McHenry, Ben Woolett, Scott Van Breda.




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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2023 at 20:06
Some scores from today

Blues 33 - 24 Saints (development team)
Richmond 7 - 50 Jersey
Cambridge 19 - 33 Chinnor
Plymouth 7 - 31 Pirates
Sedgley Park 26 - 26 Caldy
Ampthill 17 - 7 Nottingham

20 mins Zebra 10 - 0 Ealing


Posted By: Yeeealing
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2023 at 21:35
Zebra 20 Ealing T 26 FT


Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2023 at 04:00
Originally posted by Yeeealing Yeeealing wrote:

Zebra 20 Ealing T 26 FT
That is a lot closer than last year.


Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2023 at 11:16
As mentioned by M728 on the N1 thread, it was the Jersey backs that made the difference against 'Mond, some real zip & pace esp during dry first half (2.30 KO meant we had same weather at Twickenham, but 50 mins later). The packs were more evenly matched, albeit Reds rotated quite a bit (9 players turned out in front row) & 1st-choice locks from last season missing (Cook retired/O'Connor injured). The wet conditions were quite a leveller in 2nd period, which saw just 12 points - 2 Jersey tries. Overall the Reds scored 8 tries, 6 of them from 5 back-three players + others from hooker Hadfield (overthrown home LO) + scrum-half Venner from close range.

The much-discussed disparity in tackle law interpretations for tier 2/3 teams didn't really materialise, can't say I would have noticed any change.

Good to get back out there anyway and to see some friends at the RAG. We're back there on Sunday week for cup action v LS


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2023 at 11:58
The tackle law saw a Cov back-rower go off for ten against Lions, but apart from that there was little difference.
I couldn't go to Mose, so can't comment, but my contact at the ground reported - quite gruffly Wink - that Sir was rather pernickity over it...


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Posted By: Moseley Mauler
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2023 at 12:23
Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

The tackle law saw a Cov back-rower go off for ten against Lions, but apart from that there was little difference.
I couldn't go to Mose, so can't comment, but my contact at the ground reported - quite gruffly Wink - that Sir was rather pernickity over it...
Au contraire.  He was very fair for both sides on the tackle height. Perhaps a couple more against Cov which is not surprising


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2023 at 13:04
I didn't say he was favouring either side...

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Posted By: Moseley Mauler
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2023 at 17:37
Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

I didn't say he was favouring either side...
  
I didn't say that you said that he was favouring either side, I was stating my point of view on the penalties for high tackles. I think they were all legitimately given. LOL


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2023 at 23:20
Mose vs Cov tries:
https://youtu.be/x0byTw2qfMo?si=5OCBQangqv-sJCeX" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/x0byTw2qfMo?si=5OCBQangqv-sJCeX


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Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2023 at 14:53
I recently attended an RFU course on the new tackle height as it affects M&J's rugby. The word that we were given was that ref's will come down very hard on the new laws early in the season in the hope that it will force players to tackle lower (you have been warned!!). However, my take was that it will affect the ball carrier more. There is now a thing called 'late and low' which basically means that if a tackler is set to make the tackle, the ball carrier cannot then drop their shoulder to go into contact. This is a fundamental change that we have taught players from the early days of contact at the age of 8/9. Old habits will die hard.
Effectively, the ball carrier cannot invade the tacklers 'head space' with sanctions being a pen all the way to red for head/shoulder on head contact.
It does not affect the top 2 levels, but everything below it will be. It is only a matter of time before it reaches elite rugby.

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Posted By: *Stalwart
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2023 at 17:11
Originally posted by Brizzer Brizzer wrote:

I recently attended an RFU course on the new tackle height as it affects M&J's rugby. The word that we were given was that ref's will come down very hard on the new laws early in the season in the hope that it will force players to tackle lower (you have been warned!!). However, my take was that it will affect the ball carrier more. There is now a thing called 'late and low' which basically means that if a tackler is set to make the tackle, the ball carrier cannot then drop their shoulder to go into contact. This is a fundamental change that we have taught players from the early days of contact at the age of 8/9. Old habits will die hard.
Effectively, the ball carrier cannot invade the tacklers 'head space' with sanctions being a pen all the way to red for head/shoulder on head contact.
It does not affect the top 2 levels, but everything below it will be. It is only a matter of time before it reaches elite rugby.

This is a nightmare for referees at the lower levels who have no assistants and no TMO. 


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