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Topic: London & SE season 2020-21
Posted By: Robb
Subject: London & SE season 2020-21
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2020 at 17:26
So with the results in, we have lost Rochford and Guernsey (Angry ) to N2S and London Irish Amateur, Bedford and Guildford to relegation.

With just S&E returning from above and Havant, North Walsham and Westcombe Park joining us, how many transfers from the midlands are we going to need and whom will it be?



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Posted By: MaidsBoy
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2020 at 17:33
Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

So with the results in, we have lost Rochford and Guernsey (Angry ) to N2S and London Irish Amateur, Bedford and Guildford to relegation.

With just S&E returning from above and Havant, North Walsham and Westcombe Park joining us, how many transfers from the midlands are we going to need and whom will it be?

With one extra in SW, I think it may be us (Maidenhead) coming across)


Posted By: Billywindsock
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2020 at 16:11
It would seem that Maidenhead would be the most obvious transfer. This is the RFU, so it may end up being someone from Cornwall :-).
There is also the shadow of the big shake up. Smaller, more local leagues with less travel and fewer games.


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Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion,
I've watched C beams glitter in the darkness near the Tennhauser Gate,


Posted By: BruceElliott
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2020 at 12:48
Originally posted by Billywindsock Billywindsock wrote:

There is also the shadow of the big shake up. Smaller, more local leagues with less travel and fewer games. 


I suspect it's too short notice to totally rejig everything for next season, but I hope they introduce some flexibility to allow for the possibility of another shortened season. 

I know we're some way out, and that things may look totally different by August/September but I don't think anything can be stated with certainty at this stage and the RFU should plan accordingly.


Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2020 at 14:00
Originally posted by BruceElliott BruceElliott wrote:

Originally posted by Billywindsock Billywindsock wrote:

There is also the shadow of the big shake up. Smaller, more local leagues with less travel and fewer games. 



I suspect it's too short notice to totally rejig everything for next season, but I hope they introduce some flexibility to allow for the possibility of another shortened season. 

I know we're some way out, and that things may look totally different by August/September but I don't think anything can be stated with certainty at this stage and the RFU should plan accordingly.


Not sure many people want the "rejig", apart from the RFU.

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Posted By: Billywindsock
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2020 at 18:41
I have yet to meet a single person in rugby that thinks the rejig proposed is even close to a good idea. I was friends with a former president of the RFU and he thought it was ridiculous.

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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe,
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion,
I've watched C beams glitter in the darkness near the Tennhauser Gate,


Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2020 at 20:52
Originally posted by Billywindsock Billywindsock wrote:

I have yet to meet a single person in rugby that thinks the rejig proposed is even close to a good idea. I was friends with a former president of the RFU and he thought it was ridiculous.




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Posted By: BruceElliott
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2020 at 00:34
Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

 

Not sure many people want the "rejig", apart from the RFU.


I hadn't actually seen anything about it in any detail so went looking.

For anyone else -  https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/adult-male-future-competitions-survey" rel="nofollow - https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/adult-male-future-competitions-survey

I take it this is what we're talking about?


Posted By: FEZ ANT PLUCKER
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 19:37
Any rugby would be good right now even a trip to North Walsham would lift the blues. !!! 



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Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2020 at 08:19
Originally posted by FEZ ANT PLUCKER FEZ ANT PLUCKER wrote:

Any rugby would be good right now even a trip to North Walsham would lift the blues. !!! 


We've got 6 months to get used to there not being any community rugby. Cry

That's why when the fixtures come out, it will be like manna from heaven. Hopefully they'll come out quicker now the leagues are "finished".


Posted By: Cannon
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2020 at 09:29
Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by FEZ ANT PLUCKER FEZ ANT PLUCKER wrote:

Any rugby would be good right now even a trip to North Walsham would lift the blues. !!! 


We've got 6 months to get used to there not being any community rugby. Cry

That's why when the fixtures come out, it will be like manna from heaven. Hopefully they'll come out quicker now the leagues are "finished".
I wonder if they'll wait a while until after social distancing is stopped to see how the clubs survived the terrible period. I can't see the RFU wanting to constantly have to rejig the leagues if clubs should go bust or ask to be relegated. 


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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2020 at 09:31
Originally posted by Cannon Cannon wrote:

Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by FEZ ANT PLUCKER FEZ ANT PLUCKER wrote:

Any rugby would be good right now even a trip to North Walsham would lift the blues. !!! 



We've got 6 months to get used to there not being any community rugby. Cry

That's why when the fixtures come out, it will be like manna from heaven. Hopefully they'll come out quicker now the leagues are "finished".

I wonder if they'll wait a while until after social distancing is stopped to see how the clubs survived the terrible period. I can't see the RFU wanting to constantly have to rejig the leagues if clubs should go bust or ask to be relegated. 


That is a possibility - I am aging this will affect a number of clubs below level 4 or 5 but possibly even some higher up.

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Posted By: dave2dave
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2020 at 08:54
the impact will effect clubs at this level that do but don't pay players,

imports from OZ NZ SA maybe be thin on the ground this season.

could be some major form reversals unless of course Hertford and Tring merge...


Posted By: Storm
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2020 at 19:13
Big smile

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Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2020 at 19:45
Originally posted by dave2dave dave2dave wrote:

the impact will effect clubs at this level that do but don't pay players,

imports from OZ NZ SA maybe be thin on the ground this season.

could be some major form reversals unless of course Hertford and Tring merge...

I recall being told in no uncertain terms once, that there was no chance of that happening


Posted By: carlos fandango
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2020 at 23:11
Shall we say ArsnalHotspur is a more likely merger.  Wink


Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2020 at 12:58
Originally posted by carlos fandango carlos fandango wrote:

Shall we say ArsnalHotspur is a more likely merger.  Wink



Whilst I understand the sentiments behind the comment, I would be very surprised if there aren't some mergers before next season starts as this may be the only way of staving off closures.

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Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2020 at 09:40
https://twitter.com/HampshireRFU/status/1252986482878545921" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/HampshireRFU/status/1252986482878545921

The kind chaps at Hampshire RFU have confirmed who will be in the league next season


Posted By: MaidsBoy
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2020 at 12:16
Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

https://twitter.com/HampshireRFU/status/1252986482878545921" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/HampshireRFU/status/1252986482878545921

The kind chaps at Hampshire RFU have confirmed who will be in the league next season

We’ve now had confirmation of our transfer. Looking forward to making new friends, and experiencing some new challenges.


Posted By: carlos fandango
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2020 at 21:49
Raider, the distance Tring and Hertford are apart would make a merger between them unlikely. The best part of 35 miles by road.


Posted By: FEZ ANT PLUCKER
Date Posted: 20 May 2020 at 16:08
Over the past 2 years Dorking RFC have raised substantial funds through it members, sponsors, donors and via fundraising to finance the improvement of the clubhouse. This was to cover the cost of creating a new Clubhouse entrance facing the car park, a state of the art medical and fitness rooms, and a viewing balcony on the first floor from the main dining room etc. The original plan was to commence work at the end of the 2019/20 season, however because of the early shutdown and uncertain future the plans have been delayed until end of 2020/21 season. The whole process has been part of a re-development plan that has taken much longer in its planning with time and strategic thinking ahead to enable the club to provide benefit and advantages to its members and visitors. We are a fortunate and well managed club, but with all the talk on this site of clubs 'possibly going to the wall' and potential mergers, whilst nobody could have expected the effects of this disastrous pandemic, surely every club has to build in a contingency fund to cover every worst case scenario that might happen. Just a thought not any criticism intended.   

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Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 20 May 2020 at 18:16
A nice thought Fez Ant but the idea that rugby clubs across the land are sat on "contingency funds" just in case a bomb drops really is a bit naive - what you have done at Dorking is admirable but you will be very much the exception rather than the rule


Posted By: Truwblue
Date Posted: 21 May 2020 at 11:32
Agree with fatbloke. Most clubs finances are close to the wire. However if they budgeted properly (in a normal year!) they can pretty much forecast turnover and profits etc. Covid is a bolt out of the blue. I see some clubs have resorted to crowdfunding to get through the summer. Any club relying on wedding rentals/shows/camping/rugby festivals etc are in for a shock and may see crowdfunding as the only solution.


Posted By: FEZ ANT PLUCKER
Date Posted: 21 May 2020 at 15:10
Is there any truth in a rumour or possibility of Community rugby NOT happening for 20/21 season and that only Professional rugby will take place. Has anyone heard this on the grapevine.?

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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 21 May 2020 at 15:23
Originally posted by FEZ ANT PLUCKER FEZ ANT PLUCKER wrote:

Is there any truth in a rumour or possibility of Community rugby NOT happening for 20/21 season and that only Professional rugby will take place. Has anyone heard this on the grapevine.?


No - but it wouldn't surprise me if January was the start time, with half a normal season.

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Posted By: Oldman1
Date Posted: 21 May 2020 at 15:44
Raider, agree. I expect pre season from mid-November then leagues playing Jan to April. each play each other once with an extra game against the nearest team to make equal home and away games.


Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 21 May 2020 at 16:30
I think that is the best case.



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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 21 May 2020 at 17:11
Originally posted by Oldman1 Oldman1 wrote:

Raider, agree. I expect pre season from mid-November then leagues playing Jan to April. each play each other once with an extra game against the nearest team to make equal home and away games.


Exactly as I previously suggested in a different thread.

If this is the case, I would like to see Promotion/Relegation reduced for this season only.

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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 21 May 2020 at 17:13
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

I think that is the best case.




Camquin, yes unfortunately I have to agree. If a January start isn't possible I suspect the season might be written off entirely.

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Posted By: sidelined
Date Posted: 21 May 2020 at 17:33
Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Oldman1 Oldman1 wrote:

Raider, agree. I expect pre season from mid-November then leagues playing Jan to April. each play each other once with an extra game against the nearest team to make equal home and away games.


Exactly as I previously suggested in a different thread.

If this is the case, I would like to see Promotion/Relegation reduced for this season only.

I suspect that, if the RFU has it's way, Promotion/Relegation will be superfluous, due to league restructure.


Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 21 May 2020 at 18:54
Originally posted by FEZ ANT PLUCKER FEZ ANT PLUCKER wrote:

Is there any truth in a rumour or possibility of Community rugby NOT happening for 20/21 season and that only Professional rugby will take place. Has anyone heard this on the grapevine.?

What a load of bull. I wouldn't believe it. If anything, they should focus more on community rugby rather than pro-rugby just like cricket are looking at. Or even better, just let the season start as normal like Belarussian football is continuing as normal.


Posted By: marigold
Date Posted: 21 May 2020 at 20:20
Robb there is considerable difference in the amount of physical contact involved in community cricket and community rugby. They may want to focus on community rugby but if they cannot satisfy the government/RFU guidelines around contact sport it will not happy. I cannot see many community rugby clubs being able to afford to test squads before training or matches-the only way they are considering allowing the professional teams to train and play.


Posted By: kingsheathlad
Date Posted: 21 May 2020 at 20:43
Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by FEZ ANT PLUCKER FEZ ANT PLUCKER wrote:

Is there any truth in a rumour or possibility of Community rugby NOT happening for 20/21 season and that only Professional rugby will take place. Has anyone heard this on the grapevine.?

What a load of bull. I wouldn't believe it. If anything, they should focus more on community rugby rather than pro-rugby just like cricket are looking at. Or even better, just let the season start as normal like Belarussian football is continuing as normal.

Not sure Belarus is a good example, with a dictator and censorship. 


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Posted By: Dad
Date Posted: 21 May 2020 at 23:12
If the muted promise of a test with 20min result comes to fruition then a test pre game (or on the Friday) would make the game playable without any modifications


Posted By: Cannon
Date Posted: 22 May 2020 at 10:34
Originally posted by Dad Dad wrote:

If the muted promise of a test with 20min result comes to fruition then a test pre game (or on the Friday) would make the game playable without any modifications
If Nat 1 & 2 football teams are saying they cant afford ongoing COVID testing for their players to be able to play games, I can't see community rugby being able to afford it.

As an aside, I do suspect that we won't get to play competitive games until Jan'21 at the earliest.


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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 22 May 2020 at 11:49
Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by FEZ ANT PLUCKER FEZ ANT PLUCKER wrote:

Is there any truth in a rumour or possibility of Community rugby NOT happening for 20/21 season and that only Professional rugby will take place. Has anyone heard this on the grapevine.?


What a load of bull. I wouldn't believe it. If anything, they should focus more on community rugby rather than pro-rugby just like cricket are looking at. Or even better, just let the season start as normal like Belarussian football is continuing as normal.


Not the cricket I'm involved in - top level club cricket might start in July (but not that hopeful currently) - pro-cricket likely to resume in July.

However, I would say Cricket can self-distance far easier than Rugby.

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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 22 May 2020 at 11:53
Originally posted by Cannon Cannon wrote:

Originally posted by Dad Dad wrote:

If the muted promise of a test with 20min result comes to fruition then a test pre game (or on the Friday) would make the game playable without any modifications

If Nat 1 & 2 football teams are saying they cant afford ongoing COVID testing for their players to be able to play games, I can't see community rugby being able to afford it.

As an aside, I do suspect that we won't get to play competitive games until Jan'21 at the earliest.


Unfortunately, I totally agree - unless a vaccine becomes available in the near future.

If a vaccine becomes widely available in the next 3 months then an earlier resumption may be possible with those who have been vaccinated allowed to participate/watch?

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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 22 May 2020 at 11:53
Originally posted by Dad Dad wrote:

If the muted promise of a test with 20min result comes to fruition then a test pre game (or on the Friday) would make the game playable without any modifications


Cost?

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Posted By: FEZ ANT PLUCKER
Date Posted: 22 May 2020 at 12:51
Lets hope Astra Zeneca hold the key and that Track and Trace is a real success.

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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 22 May 2020 at 14:42
Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by FEZ ANT PLUCKER FEZ ANT PLUCKER wrote:

Is there any truth in a rumour or possibility of Community rugby NOT happening for 20/21 season and that only Professional rugby will take place. Has anyone heard this on the grapevine.?

What a load of bull. I wouldn't believe it. If anything, they should focus more on community rugby rather than pro-rugby just like cricket are looking at. Or even better, just let the season start as normal like Belarussian football is continuing as normal.

Absolutely. And get them drinking bleach to keep coronavirus at bay.


Posted By: The Joy of (Level) 7
Date Posted: 22 May 2020 at 16:18
Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Dad Dad wrote:

If the muted promise of a test with 20min result comes to fruition then a test pre game (or on the Friday) would make the game playable without any modifications


Cost?

Perhaps Dorking will pay for everyone.


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Posted By: Intouch
Date Posted: 23 May 2020 at 11:05
Originally posted by Dad Dad wrote:

If the muted promise of a test with 20min result comes to fruition then a test pre game (or on the Friday) would make the game playable without any modifications

I note your post, but question for you,what of teams like DMP, Caldy Plymouth, Redruth ( at Nat 1 and 2 level) who spend 50% of the season on the road on Friday afternoons, early evenings or/and 90% of the sides going to play Guernsey, who spend time  travelling on Friday nights. 

How could you have trained Thursday night with the team, take a test and be positive on Friday, the whole of Thursday nights training group has to do into lockdown having been in contact with said player and the club does therefore not have a side to travel


Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 23 May 2020 at 12:51
Originally posted by Intouch Intouch wrote:

Originally posted by Dad Dad wrote:

If the muted promise of a test with 20min result comes to fruition then a test pre game (or on the Friday) would make the game playable without any modifications


I note your post, but question for you,what of teams like DMP, Caldy Plymouth, Redruth ( at Nat 1 and 2 level) who spend 50% of the season on the road on Friday afternoons, early evenings or/and 90% of the sides going to play Guernsey, who spend time  travelling on Friday nights. 

How could you have trained Thursday night with the team, take a test and be positive on Friday, the whole of Thursday nights training group has to do into lockdown having been in contact with said player and the club does therefore not have a side to travel


Guernsey did have a 14 day quarantine on anyone arriving - not sure it still applies.

Channel Islands, Isle of Man and Ireland are exempt from quarantine when travelling to UK, I would have thought same would apply iPod reverse travel but?

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Posted By: BruceElliott
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2020 at 15:27
So here's the outline... 

https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/return-to-community-rugby-roadmap" rel="nofollow - https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/return-to-community-rugby-roadmap

Clearly no timeline yet.


Posted By: Awesome
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2020 at 19:03
Tring Hertford merger would not happen, although they have tried tempting a few players over the years. If clubs merge which could happen it would have to be nearby to work.



Posted By: Billywindsock
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2020 at 19:42
Originally posted by Awesome Awesome wrote:

Tring Hertford merger would not happen, although they have tried tempting a few players over the years. If clubs merge which could happen it would have to be nearby to work.

I think Hertford have asked Tommy Newton to come over to the blue side a few times, but his loyalty to Tring is admirable. Quality player and all round decent chap.


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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe,
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion,
I've watched C beams glitter in the darkness near the Tennhauser Gate,


Posted By: Awesome
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2020 at 17:12
He bleeds black and gold and Tring have been very fortunate that he has never left us. He did go to Bath for a while but struggled with the language barrier. I was surprised to see Baz go. He was a real Step End (Trings noisy crowd area) favorite. He was like one of our own.


Posted By: Super G
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2020 at 13:21
Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Intouch Intouch wrote:

Originally posted by Dad Dad wrote:

If the muted promise of a test with 20min result comes to fruition then a test pre game (or on the Friday) would make the game playable without any modifications


I note your post, but question for you,what of teams like DMP, Caldy Plymouth, Redruth ( at Nat 1 and 2 level) who spend 50% of the season on the road on Friday afternoons, early evenings or/and 90% of the sides going to play Guernsey, who spend time  travelling on Friday nights. 

How could you have trained Thursday night with the team, take a test and be positive on Friday, the whole of Thursday nights training group has to do into lockdown having been in contact with said player and the club does therefore not have a side to travel


Guernsey did have a 14 day quarantine on anyone arriving - not sure it still applies.

Channel Islands, Isle of Man and Ireland are exempt from quarantine when travelling to UK, I would have thought same would apply iPod reverse travel but?

Guernsey are following different guidelines to the UK...we are out of lockdown now and basically back to normal, we just have travel restrictions whereby we can travel off Island but anyone coming in has to quarantine for two weeks. Raiders have started back at training properly so could be a long pre season. Guernsey has agreed a travel bridge with Isle of Man as they also have no more active cases, so there is talk of potential Home and away friendlies.


Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2020 at 14:33
Originally posted by Super G Super G wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Intouch Intouch wrote:

Originally posted by Dad Dad wrote:

If the muted promise of a test with 20min result comes to fruition then a test pre game (or on the Friday) would make the game playable without any modifications


I note your post, but question for you,what of teams like DMP, Caldy Plymouth, Redruth ( at Nat 1 and 2 level) who spend 50% of the season on the road on Friday afternoons, early evenings or/and 90% of the sides going to play Guernsey, who spend time  travelling on Friday nights. 

How could you have trained Thursday night with the team, take a test and be positive on Friday, the whole of Thursday nights training group has to do into lockdown having been in contact with said player and the club does therefore not have a side to travel


Guernsey did have a 14 day quarantine on anyone arriving - not sure it still applies.

Channel Islands, Isle of Man and Ireland are exempt from quarantine when travelling to UK, I would have thought same would apply iPod reverse travel but?


Guernsey are following different guidelines to the UK...we are out of lockdown now and basically back to normal, we just have travel restrictions whereby we can travel off Island but anyone coming in has to quarantine for two weeks. Raiders have started back at training properly so could be a long pre season. Guernsey has agreed a travel bridge with Isle of Man as they also have no more active cases, so there is talk of potential Home and away friendlies.


Good thinking, but quite a difference in standards.

With those travel restrictions, their participation in N2S must be in doubt.

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Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2020 at 17:14
Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Super G Super G wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Intouch Intouch wrote:

Originally posted by Dad Dad wrote:

If the muted promise of a test with 20min result comes to fruition then a test pre game (or on the Friday) would make the game playable without any modifications


I note your post, but question for you,what of teams like DMP, Caldy Plymouth, Redruth ( at Nat 1 and 2 level) who spend 50% of the season on the road on Friday afternoons, early evenings or/and 90% of the sides going to play Guernsey, who spend time  travelling on Friday nights. 

How could you have trained Thursday night with the team, take a test and be positive on Friday, the whole of Thursday nights training group has to do into lockdown having been in contact with said player and the club does therefore not have a side to travel


Guernsey did have a 14 day quarantine on anyone arriving - not sure it still applies.

Channel Islands, Isle of Man and Ireland are exempt from quarantine when travelling to UK, I would have thought same would apply iPod reverse travel but?


Guernsey are following different guidelines to the UK...we are out of lockdown now and basically back to normal, we just have travel restrictions whereby we can travel off Island but anyone coming in has to quarantine for two weeks. Raiders have started back at training properly so could be a long pre season. Guernsey has agreed a travel bridge with Isle of Man as they also have no more active cases, so there is talk of potential Home and away friendlies.


Good thinking, but quite a difference in standards.

With those travel restrictions, their participation in N2S must be in doubt.

So what would that mean? Guernsey forced to stay down (With some sort of compensation I assume) and S&E get to stay up? I have to say I like this idea (not just because I like trips to Guernsey!). But I guess they'd just say Guernsey have to play all their home matches somewhere in Hampshire.


Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2020 at 14:09
Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Super G Super G wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Intouch Intouch wrote:

Originally posted by Dad Dad wrote:

If the muted promise of a test with 20min result comes to fruition then a test pre game (or on the Friday) would make the game playable without any modifications


I note your post, but question for you,what of teams like DMP, Caldy Plymouth, Redruth ( at Nat 1 and 2 level) who spend 50% of the season on the road on Friday afternoons, early evenings or/and 90% of the sides going to play Guernsey, who spend time  travelling on Friday nights. 

How could you have trained Thursday night with the team, take a test and be positive on Friday, the whole of Thursday nights training group has to do into lockdown having been in contact with said player and the club does therefore not have a side to travel


Guernsey did have a 14 day quarantine on anyone arriving - not sure it still applies.

Channel Islands, Isle of Man and Ireland are exempt from quarantine when travelling to UK, I would have thought same would apply iPod reverse travel but?


Guernsey are following different guidelines to the UK...we are out of lockdown now and basically back to normal, we just have travel restrictions whereby we can travel off Island but anyone coming in has to quarantine for two weeks. Raiders have started back at training properly so could be a long pre season. Guernsey has agreed a travel bridge with Isle of Man as they also have no more active cases, so there is talk of potential Home and away friendlies.


Good thinking, but quite a difference in standards.

With those travel restrictions, their participation in N2S must be in doubt.


So what would that mean? Guernsey forced to stay down (With some sort of compensation I assume) and S&E get to stay up? I have to say I like this idea (not just because I like trips to Guernsey!). But I guess they'd just say Guernsey have to play all their home matches somewhere in Hampshire.



That could be an option assuming the Guernsey players could fly in and out for each game. It would also offer some income, however small, for the club that hosts their home games.

Would suggest somewhere in the Gatwick vicinity unless there are going to be flights into Hampshire?

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Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2020 at 15:06
Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Super G Super G wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Intouch Intouch wrote:

Originally posted by Dad Dad wrote:

If the muted promise of a test with 20min result comes to fruition then a test pre game (or on the Friday) would make the game playable without any modifications


I note your post, but question for you,what of teams like DMP, Caldy Plymouth, Redruth ( at Nat 1 and 2 level) who spend 50% of the season on the road on Friday afternoons, early evenings or/and 90% of the sides going to play Guernsey, who spend time  travelling on Friday nights. 

How could you have trained Thursday night with the team, take a test and be positive on Friday, the whole of Thursday nights training group has to do into lockdown having been in contact with said player and the club does therefore not have a side to travel


Guernsey did have a 14 day quarantine on anyone arriving - not sure it still applies.

Channel Islands, Isle of Man and Ireland are exempt from quarantine when travelling to UK, I would have thought same would apply iPod reverse travel but?


Guernsey are following different guidelines to the UK...we are out of lockdown now and basically back to normal, we just have travel restrictions whereby we can travel off Island but anyone coming in has to quarantine for two weeks. Raiders have started back at training properly so could be a long pre season. Guernsey has agreed a travel bridge with Isle of Man as they also have no more active cases, so there is talk of potential Home and away friendlies.


Good thinking, but quite a difference in standards.

With those travel restrictions, their participation in N2S must be in doubt.


So what would that mean? Guernsey forced to stay down (With some sort of compensation I assume) and S&E get to stay up? I have to say I like this idea (not just because I like trips to Guernsey!). But I guess they'd just say Guernsey have to play all their home matches somewhere in Hampshire.



That could be an option assuming the Guernsey players could fly in and out for each game. It would also offer some income, however small, for the club that hosts their home games.

Would suggest somewhere in the Gatwick vicinity unless there are going to be flights into Hampshire?
The only reason I said Hampshire was because Guernsey are affiliated to the Hampshire RFU so they'd probably want to/be required to support their local county association. I believe Aurigny do fly to Southampton.


Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2020 at 18:22
Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Super G Super G wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Intouch Intouch wrote:

Originally posted by Dad Dad wrote:

If the muted promise of a test with 20min result comes to fruition then a test pre game (or on the Friday) would make the game playable without any modifications


I note your post, but question for you,what of teams like DMP, Caldy Plymouth, Redruth ( at Nat 1 and 2 level) who spend 50% of the season on the road on Friday afternoons, early evenings or/and 90% of the sides going to play Guernsey, who spend time  travelling on Friday nights. 

How could you have trained Thursday night with the team, take a test and be positive on Friday, the whole of Thursday nights training group has to do into lockdown having been in contact with said player and the club does therefore not have a side to travel


Guernsey did have a 14 day quarantine on anyone arriving - not sure it still applies.

Channel Islands, Isle of Man and Ireland are exempt from quarantine when travelling to UK, I would have thought same would apply iPod reverse travel but?


Guernsey are following different guidelines to the UK...we are out of lockdown now and basically back to normal, we just have travel restrictions whereby we can travel off Island but anyone coming in has to quarantine for two weeks. Raiders have started back at training properly so could be a long pre season. Guernsey has agreed a travel bridge with Isle of Man as they also have no more active cases, so there is talk of potential Home and away friendlies.


Good thinking, but quite a difference in standards.

With those travel restrictions, their participation in N2S must be in doubt.


So what would that mean? Guernsey forced to stay down (With some sort of compensation I assume) and S&E get to stay up? I have to say I like this idea (not just because I like trips to Guernsey!). But I guess they'd just say Guernsey have to play all their home matches somewhere in Hampshire.



That could be an option assuming the Guernsey players could fly in and out for each game. It would also offer some income, however small, for the club that hosts their home games.

Would suggest somewhere in the Gatwick vicinity unless there are going to be flights into Hampshire?

The only reason I said Hampshire was because Guernsey are affiliated to the Hampshire RFU so they'd probably want to/be required to support their local county association. I believe Aurigny do fly to Southampton.


I understand why you suggested Hampshire, the reason I suggested near Gatwick is for travel purposes that is their base not Southampton.

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Posted By: Super G
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2020 at 15:10
Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Super G Super G wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Intouch Intouch wrote:

Originally posted by Dad Dad wrote:

If the muted promise of a test with 20min result comes to fruition then a test pre game (or on the Friday) would make the game playable without any modifications


I note your post, but question for you,what of teams like DMP, Caldy Plymouth, Redruth ( at Nat 1 and 2 level) who spend 50% of the season on the road on Friday afternoons, early evenings or/and 90% of the sides going to play Guernsey, who spend time  travelling on Friday nights. 

How could you have trained Thursday night with the team, take a test and be positive on Friday, the whole of Thursday nights training group has to do into lockdown having been in contact with said player and the club does therefore not have a side to travel


Guernsey did have a 14 day quarantine on anyone arriving - not sure it still applies.

Channel Islands, Isle of Man and Ireland are exempt from quarantine when travelling to UK, I would have thought same would apply iPod reverse travel but?


Guernsey are following different guidelines to the UK...we are out of lockdown now and basically back to normal, we just have travel restrictions whereby we can travel off Island but anyone coming in has to quarantine for two weeks. Raiders have started back at training properly so could be a long pre season. Guernsey has agreed a travel bridge with Isle of Man as they also have no more active cases, so there is talk of potential Home and away friendlies.


Good thinking, but quite a difference in standards.

With those travel restrictions, their participation in N2S must be in doubt.

So what would that mean? Guernsey forced to stay down (With some sort of compensation I assume) and S&E get to stay up? I have to say I like this idea (not just because I like trips to Guernsey!). But I guess they'd just say Guernsey have to play all their home matches somewhere in Hampshire.

That wouldn't be an option either unless the players fancied moving to the UK for the season. The 2 week quarantine relates to any locals returning to the Island also


Posted By: Super G
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2020 at 15:11
and any non-local players (before anyone gets a dig in)


Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2020 at 16:13
Originally posted by Super G Super G wrote:

Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Super G Super G wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Intouch Intouch wrote:

Originally posted by Dad Dad wrote:

If the muted promise of a test with 20min result comes to fruition then a test pre game (or on the Friday) would make the game playable without any modifications


I note your post, but question for you,what of teams like DMP, Caldy Plymouth, Redruth ( at Nat 1 and 2 level) who spend 50% of the season on the road on Friday afternoons, early evenings or/and 90% of the sides going to play Guernsey, who spend time  travelling on Friday nights. 

How could you have trained Thursday night with the team, take a test and be positive on Friday, the whole of Thursday nights training group has to do into lockdown having been in contact with said player and the club does therefore not have a side to travel


Guernsey did have a 14 day quarantine on anyone arriving - not sure it still applies.

Channel Islands, Isle of Man and Ireland are exempt from quarantine when travelling to UK, I would have thought same would apply iPod reverse travel but?


Guernsey are following different guidelines to the UK...we are out of lockdown now and basically back to normal, we just have travel restrictions whereby we can travel off Island but anyone coming in has to quarantine for two weeks. Raiders have started back at training properly so could be a long pre season. Guernsey has agreed a travel bridge with Isle of Man as they also have no more active cases, so there is talk of potential Home and away friendlies.


Good thinking, but quite a difference in standards.

With those travel restrictions, their participation in N2S must be in doubt.


So what would that mean? Guernsey forced to stay down (With some sort of compensation I assume) and S&E get to stay up? I have to say I like this idea (not just because I like trips to Guernsey!). But I guess they'd just say Guernsey have to play all their home matches somewhere in Hampshire.



That wouldn't be an option either unless the players fancied moving to the UK for the season. The 2 week quarantine relates to any locals returning to the Island also


The original post didn't make that clear - if that is indeed the case, I cannot see anyway Guernsey can play in any league Until the quarantine situation changes

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Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2020 at 09:48
Frustrating the amount of silence we're getting on this front. Especially since the RFU haven't moved off step 2 of their plan yet. 


Posted By: Thelazy8
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2020 at 09:35
In some positive news, Hertfordshires largest pub garden opens up at midday today at Hertford RFC for club members and friends.

We will not mention that the longest Lager glasses do not fit under the specially designed perspex!

Maybe it's specially designed to stop people drinking certain Lagers? Beer


Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2020 at 15:29
Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Frustrating the amount of silence we're getting on this front. Especially since the RFU haven't moved off step 2 of their plan yet. 

Ask your Club Secretary! S(h)e, like me will be getting twice weekly updates from the RFU and probably weekly updates from your CB RDO about what can and can’t be done. Weekly coaching and administrative webinars and lots of practical help. 

The RFU cannot move from Stage B on the Roadmap without Government agreeing their Return to Play protocol. Tha5 was submitted last week and is probably what led to the Sports Minister last Monday talking about community rugby returning without scrums until January. 

The RFU is anything but quiet and inactive. Give them a break for a change!


Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2020 at 12:25
Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Frustrating the amount of silence we're getting on this front. Especially since the RFU haven't moved off step 2 of their plan yet. 


Ask your Club Secretary! S(h)e, like me will be getting twice weekly updates from the RFU and probably weekly updates from your CB RDO about what can and can’t be done. Weekly coaching and administrative webinars and lots of practical help. 

The RFU cannot move from Stage B on the Roadmap without Government agreeing their Return to Play protocol. Tha5 was submitted last week and is probably what led to the Sports Minister last Monday talking about community rugby returning without scrums until January. 

The RFU is anything but quiet and inactive. Give them a break for a change!


Maybe they aren't quiet and inactive - but they were certainly very slow to get a protocol together and submitted to the government.

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Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2020 at 15:29
Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Frustrating the amount of silence we're getting on this front. Especially since the RFU haven't moved off step 2 of their plan yet. 


Ask your Club Secretary! S(h)e, like me will be getting twice weekly updates from the RFU and probably weekly updates from your CB RDO about what can and can’t be done. Weekly coaching and administrative webinars and lots of practical help. 

The RFU cannot move from Stage B on the Roadmap without Government agreeing their Return to Play protocol. Tha5 was submitted last week and is probably what led to the Sports Minister last Monday talking about community rugby returning without scrums until January. 

The RFU is anything but quiet and inactive. Give them a break for a change!


Maybe they aren't quiet and inactive - but they were certainly very slow to get a protocol together and submitted to the government.

I think you'll find it went in 1 week after that from the FA and the ECB. It is more complex because of the close contact in rugby. Other contact sports - judo, for example - are also still waiting for decisions.


Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2020 at 17:36
One of our biggest participation sports and the government taking this long? Appalling really.


Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2020 at 20:15
Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

One of our biggest participation sports and the government taking this long? Appalling really.


It is just possible that they disagree with elements of the RU protocol.

Easy to blame the government when you don't know the facts.

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Posted By: FEZ ANT PLUCKER
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2021 at 12:24
Dorking RFC pre-season friendlies

14.8.2021 v Camberley RFC (H)
21.8.2021 v Rochford 100 RFC (H)
28.8.2021 v London Cornish RFC (H)

Looking forward to the start of a new season at our re-developed clubhouse with fantastic viewing balcony, and magnificent new gymnasium and medical/physio facility.  


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Posted By: DICKON
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2021 at 19:01
That last one is actually on the Fri night the 27th Fezantplucker - hope to meet u there!


Posted By: FEZ ANT PLUCKER
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2021 at 13:18
Yes Dickon my mistake. Hope to see you.Smile

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