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Topic: RWC Third Place Play-Off: Argentina vs England
Posted By: Steve@Mose
Subject: RWC Third Place Play-Off: Argentina vs England
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2023 at 21:57
The match that no team really wants, but it must still be fulfilled.  Which team will rally best from their semi-final defeat?



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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2023 at 11:06
Can France play Ireland instead please? IMO it would be a better game and pack a decent crowd in.

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Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD.


Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2023 at 11:11
My heart says the Pumas still have a game in them, and for the sake of the worldwide game, I would love them to win.

My head says, England beat them with 14 men, and would do so again.

The problem is that coming third - especially after coming so close yesterday - would be seen as a vindication of Borthwick and the status quo in Englsh rugby.


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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2023 at 15:17
My heart says Argentina.

My head says it's England playing so don't bother watching it. So I won't.


Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2023 at 17:30
England will want to show they deserved more. The argies I don't think have the same drive or skill for it (and England will just drop kick everything again)


Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2023 at 18:01
Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Can France play Ireland instead please? IMO it would be a better game and pack a decent crowd in.

I think French and Irish supporters would recognise this suggested match as an occasion even more contrived than the actual game that's scheduled between the 2 teams who have 'qualified' to play in it. The idea Irish supporters would take time off and shell out hundreds of euros to fly over is laughable...

It's hard for anyone to get too excited about this game, which clearly only exists as a money-spinner for tkt sales + tv rights (as a result of which it's unlikely ever to be scrapped). Right now I'm feeling ambivalent about watching it, and I imagine the players would be about playing in it. I'd recommend they spend all day today on the lash, recover tomorrow and then convene Tuesday to see who's up for it. Maybe by midweek I'll have come round to cheering my team in their final outing - let's see...

Spoke to a couple of mates on Fri who were in SA for RWC in 1995; they went to Sun City between the semis and final and bumped into both the English & French squads who had been defeated in the semis and were on the p1ss together during early part of the week ahead of the play-off on the Thursday. Maybe there'll be something similar happening in Paris this week - do they have bars at EuroDisney?!


Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2023 at 15:02
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/67214279" rel="nofollow - Ben Youngs to retire from Test rugby after World Cup third-place play-off




Posted By: Shamrose
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2023 at 14:21

Smith; Steward, Marchant, Tuilagi, Arundell; Farrell (capt), Youngs; Genge, Dan, Stuart, Itoje, Chessum, Curry, Underhill, Earl.

Replacements: George, Rodd, Cole, Ribbans, Ludlam, Care, Ford, Lawrence.

Interesting selections from England and hope this signals the end of the free ride for Sinckler. I would have given Lawrence a go above Tuilaga as I fear both he and Vunipola are now past their best.

Slighty worried about Arundell as I have a  tenner on Will Jordan to be top try scorer and they only one who can touch him is ArundellSmile



Posted By: cheshire exile
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2023 at 17:29
Originally posted by Shamrose Shamrose wrote:

Smith; Steward, Marchant, Tuilagi, Arundell; Farrell (capt), Youngs; Genge, Dan, Stuart, Itoje, Chessum, Curry, Underhill, Earl.

Replacements: George, Rodd, Cole, Ribbans, Ludlam, Care, Ford, Lawrence.

Interesting selections from England and hope this signals the end of the free ride for Sinckler. I would have given Lawrence a go above Tuilaga as I fear both he and Vunipola are now past their best.

Slighty worried about Arundell as I have a  tenner on Will Jordan to be top try scorer and they only one who can touch him is ArundellSmile


Agree about Lawrence , good years still ahead of him with Tuilagi (and Vunipolla) on the wane as you say.
Borthwick does tend to stick to his favourites but I suspect/ hope that the starting lineup will look very different come the Six Nations.


Posted By: tulip
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2023 at 20:56
Watched the highlights of the premiership and my goodness what great rugby to watch and plenty of talented players
Think Borthwick has to get rid of his old favourites 


Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2023 at 12:51
Originally posted by tulip tulip wrote:

Watched the highlights of the premiership and my goodness what great rugby to watch and plenty of talented players
Think Borthwick has to get rid of his old favourites 

I think we need to get rid of Borthwick!


Posted By: backrowb
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2023 at 13:05
Originally posted by tulip tulip wrote:

Watched the highlights of the premiership and my goodness what great rugby to watch and plenty of talented players
Think Borthwick has to get rid of his old favourites 
For international rugby one we need world  class players, not "talented". There are not many about.


Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2023 at 13:33
There are a lot of talented young players around, they were never given a chance under Jones, now will the RFU allow Borthwick to use them, my gut feeling is no, they will just want to win the next game to keep bums on seats in the cabbage patch with no thought for the future. Farrell will be in the next world cup squad, his name will already be on the team sheet.


Posted By: HookerPaul
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2023 at 17:45
By then he may have learned how to tackle, keep his gob shut and count to 60!


Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2023 at 20:35
Cracking match with both sides going for it.  

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Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD.


Posted By: WILD BOAR
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2023 at 20:49
Argentina's  try well forward!!


Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2023 at 20:50
Originally posted by WILD BOAR WILD BOAR wrote:

Argentina' try well forward!

Agreed, I even had a Welsh chap say that so it must have been 😉


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Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!


Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2023 at 20:54
FORWARD PASS .......how can that not been seen Shocked

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Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.


Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2023 at 20:56
We should have a guy looking at a monitor checking for blatant forward pWinkasses

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Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.


Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2023 at 21:13
Originally posted by No 7 No 7 wrote:

We should have a guy looking at a monitor checking for blatant forward pWinkasses

Excellent idea - you should put that one forward to world rugby


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Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!


Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2023 at 22:08
Didn't they do well! (England & Argentina). Even my wife was on the edge of the settee 

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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."


Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2023 at 22:09
There are two of them called touch judges, the bloke in the van should only point out foul/illegal play.


Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2023 at 22:18
Originally posted by tigerburnie tigerburnie wrote:

There are two of them called touch judges, the bloke in the van should only point out foul/illegal play.

are we sure the TMO was in the van, in Paris? Impression I got was that he may well have been following the game on his phone in a pub in Abergavenny...



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