Meeting with RFu
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Topic: Meeting with RFu
Posted By: Camquin
Subject: Meeting with RFu
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 12:13
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According to the Worcester message board, TRP is reporting that the Championship Clubs are meeting Connor O'Shea to discuss the structure of the game today. Does anyone have any information? ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 12:51
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The only thing I have heard is that we should hear more about what's happening after the 12th (i.e. today). This news was relayed to us about a month ago. ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 14:13
| But both Wasps & Worcs been given more time to complete their respective sales so think you can forget the 12th |
Posted By: kingsheathlad
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 14:44
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Decision by Christmas according to BBC. ------------- Cauliflower ear. |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 14:47
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But that decision will be to delay it until Easter. Because no other club needs to plan, do they. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 15:34
| From what I can see in the public domain, you can plan to go Worcester next season, but I think Wasps will no longer exist.................................... |
Posted By: workerbee
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 15:58
| I believe there is a possibility that the RFU are planning to relegate another prem club and Ealing will be allowed to be promoted should they finish top. This will lead to relegation from the championship and one promoted from Nat 1. However with all other scenarios we wait with baited breath. The Problem with the RFU it is a bit like the Titanic but without anyone steering it!! All clubs are having sustainable audits but who is looking at the RFU!!? |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 15:59
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By the way - Premiership are planning for 2024/5 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/63946473" rel="nofollow - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/63946473 ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: ParkBench
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 16:36
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The quote that jumped out at me from Maisie-Taylor in that BBC article was the one where they state they want Warriors and Wasps back in the elite fold as quickly as possible but in the meantime want to make the second tier a less scary place for their favoured clubs: "You want a Championship which clubs feel more comfortable relegated into. And you also want something where Wasps and Worcester are germinated back to being a successful club again - because we want Wasps and Worcester back in the Premiership." There might well be some good intentions lurking beneath the arrogance and entitlement but I struggle to see it. |
Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 16:43
| I am both pleased and surprised that relegation is to be on the table. What happened to the 10 team league? |
Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 17:39
The issue with this is that you'd still have an 11 team Premiership. More likely to allow Ealing up with no relegation to make a nice round dozen.
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workerbee wrote:Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 19:27
| Just manufacture everything to suit your purposes and sod the rest of us. As in life, if there is no real penalty for transgressions then it will happen again, just a question of who to? Why are we rewarding gross mis-management? Just "eff" them off to the bottom of the pyramid and let them rebuild/restart like many have had to do before them. Job done! |
Posted By: Cricks at 2
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 20:01
Exactly right PB, as you say, the total arrogance and entitlement stands out like a racing dog’s Kahunas. The tragic thing is that statements like that are habitual, bought about by years of unchallenged (effectively) RFU diktat. Carling had a pop at it, but to no avail. |
Posted By: Count Ford
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 20:21
It's quite an appalling statement really. If they are parachuted straight into the championship, how can any other championship side feel they have a fair chance when the head of the league above has already said which teams he wants in the league |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 21:05
I agree that quote stands out - and not in a +ve way
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 23:04
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I want the strongest teams in the Premiership, anyone that wants a specific team to succeed is not being an honest broker. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2022 at 02:34
I've been on this Forum for almost 14 years and the one consistent theme throughout that time is that the RFU have no interest in clubs below the Premiership. I'm sure EGMs have been mentioned - but who will put their head above the parapet. The fact is that the Premiership cartel is solid. Even losing the taxpayer £m seems irrelevant, we've been talking about French style financial tests for years. I now enjoy the beauty of National league rugby and banana England and the Premiership. (If I were closer to a Championship club I'd visit them, no offence 😁😁)
------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2022 at 07:25
Exactly. There are some on the Worcester board who believe that former players will re-join the club and they will have a team strong enough to win promotion back to the Premiership. How they are going to finance any of this doesn't get a mention. ------------- Moderator http://www.leaguerugby.co.uk" rel="nofollow - National League Rugby Message Boards Remember Wakefield RFC |
Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2022 at 07:41
The reference to the 100 would be funny if it wasn't so sad. The 100 is a centrally owned geographical tournament shown live on terrestrial TV. It was created because it was recognised that cricket needed to be back on terrestrial TV to appeal to a new audience and that the current domestic cricket structure could not do that as there were too many counties not willing to give up their own power basis. English rugby could have had their own version of the 100 but instead allowed the clubs to dictate. If it wants a version of the 100 - with a reduced number of centrally owned teams, geographically spread out then now is the time to plan in readiness for the next Professional game agreement. Instead I fear you will see tinkering around the edges - different kick off times, fireworks, loud music and some idiot interviewing members of the crowd - plus lots of discounted tickets. ------------- Moderator http://www.leaguerugby.co.uk" rel="nofollow - National League Rugby Message Boards Remember Wakefield RFC |
Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2022 at 07:59
Heaven forbid we have anything like the 100 in rugby. It made a complete mockery of cricket. I can't believe they are involving one of the clowns behind it in the Premiership. I fear if he has his way, we'll get soulless Franchises in rugby.
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2022 at 08:49
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Because that worked so well in Wales. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2022 at 09:17
Did you see one of the proposals suggested last week (it might have been for a proposed Prem/ Champ Cup) was for captains to nominate an opposition player to spend 10 minutes in the bin? If an officially-sanctioned body can come up with that then I think I'd rather watch the Hundred! [Edit] Here you go: Telegraph Sport understands that the group’s reforms, presented by RFU director of performance rugby Conor O'Shea, include:
The RFU has assembled a working party to discuss giving the competition greater appeal. Jamie George, the Saracens and England hooker, Mark McCall, George’s director of rugby, Sir Ian McGeechan, the Scotland and Lions legend, and Lee Blackett, the former Wasps coach, are all among those included in the group assembled to embellish any future cup competition, which will incorporate both Premiership and Championship clubs. |
Posted By: rugbychris
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2022 at 09:51
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It wasn't that long ago that Itoje was quoted as saying the premiership needed to take lessons from American Football and make games more of a spectacle. Marler also said something about the need to expand rugby to new audiences. Now Jamie George included on working party to give the game greater appeal. I'm a terrible cynic but I wouldn't mind betting that this is part of a CVC/prem rugby PR strategy to start slowly building support towards glitz, glamour and destruction of the game as we know it.
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Posted By: *Stalwart
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2022 at 09:55
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The statement by Maisie-Taylor just shows the staggering arrogance that has become the hall mark of the PRL and the RFU. Unbelievable. ------------- *Stalwart |
Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2022 at 11:11
| Sir Ian McGeechan, he's full of good ideas, not. Last one he had was to create a Yorkshire rugby club based at his sides ground and expected other Yorkshire clubs fans to ditch old alliances to support them. |
Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2022 at 12:47
Absolutely right. The Premiership has been a totally Lovely competition since Saracens were allowed to get away with cheating for years and years despite warnings and everyone knowing what was going on. Now it seems the RFU want to Lovely the Championship as well. Rugby as a sport will soon end when you get as high as Nat One.
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Posted By: dumbape
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2022 at 03:19
Might this have something to do having to buy P shares back at something close to the valuation on the balance sheets of premiership clubs … probably. This situation might even open up more of the ‘rights’ being bought by outside investors at a bargain price. VCs will want a return and an exit strategy usually while they build up debt in their victims… sorry ‘partners’. They do not put their time and money in for free! ------------- What a blessing it would be if we could open and shut our ears as easily as we open and shut our eyes! |