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Topic: Nottingham Rugby
Posted By: Shush
Subject: Nottingham Rugby
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2020 at 11:46
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Nottingham have announced today that as from next season they will be going semi-professional with training outside of normal working hours. The team get their March wages in full but April & May will be by way of furlough. I'm absolutely gutted as there are some very gifted young lads at the club, young lads that will no doubt be looking to move in the hope of fulltime rugby. First Sweeney, then Covid-19, I really hope bad luck doesn't come in 3's!
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Posted By: Moseley Mauler
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2020 at 12:02
Sensible decision. It's the way to go
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Shush wrote:Posted By: Stalwart
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2020 at 13:21
| Tough decision, but probably the sensible way forward. |
Posted By: JonDee
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2020 at 11:54
| Think a number of other clubs will follow suit which may leave the RFU having to re-arrange the league structure as it would be a waste of time having a number of very powerful teams playing part timers. Saracens vs part time Nottingham for example it would be 100 points plus ?? |
Posted By: marigold
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2020 at 13:41
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JD whilst Saracens v anyone will be a challenge (although not sure how often all their stars will play), non full time teams like Ampthill (currently 5th)and Hartpury have beaten a number of full time teams this current season in the Championship. I remember reading that, besides Bristol and London Irish, Richmond beat all other teams during their three years at level 2. Challenge for Nottingham will be finding jobs locally for their players when the rugby money will not be enough to pay the rent. |
Posted By: Welshie7
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2020 at 13:55
| No offence intended but slightly different calibre of player playing at Saracens than the other full-time clubs eg Jersey or Doncaster |
Posted By: JonDee
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2020 at 13:56
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Just picked up the following statement https://www.nottinghamrugby.co.uk/statement-on-coronavirus" rel="nofollow - https://www.nottinghamrugby.co.uk/statement-on-coronavirus There may be another to follow re part time status |
Posted By: dropout22
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2020 at 16:17
| Interesting to see they've cut 3 staff but others are still on furlough. |
Posted By: Rabbie Burns
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2020 at 18:10
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Some players may find they ar3 better off part time. I know there are plenty who have moved from L2 to L3 and swapped and are financially better off ------------- So many Christians not enough Lions |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2020 at 20:59
If you can get a job, unfortunately there are probably few opportunities at present. ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: dropout22
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2020 at 21:01
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Interesting article by an ex-pro, forgot his name. Played for Nottingham for 3 seasons. And he said playing part-time he made more money from rugby than he did being a full-timer. It seems that the clubs that were barely surviving as full-time outfits - LS & Nottingham etc, are the ones whose business models seem to have collapsed almost instantly when the RFU cut funding - for what looks like £130k for next season atm. Shows to me, that they really should've been semi-pro outfits from the outset. |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2020 at 21:50
Not completing the season will have made the losses much larger, even with Government support.
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Posted By: maire23
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2020 at 23:53
If it’s the same article I’m thinking of I believe it was Nathan Jones.
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Posted By: JonDee
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2020 at 08:47
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Tuesday, 31st March 2020 Nottingham Rugby Nottingham Rugby statement on Coronavirus (Covid-19) Nottingham Rugby can today confirm that we have furloughed all our players and majority of other staff as a result of the Coronavirus outbreak. We can also confirm that we have temporarily closed our Lady Bay facility, with those staff remaining on working contracts being based at home. Under the government’s recent Coronavirus Job Retention Scheme, and with the RFU announcement that our season is now over, instead of making our players, coaches and support staff redundant, we have put the squad on ‘furlough leave’. This scheme enables us to continue to pay our players and we are appreciative of the Government’s support to enable us to do so. We expect this to take effect until the end of May 2020, but we will review in line with government announcements. These are unprecedented times for everyone concerned and we would like to thank our players, coaches, staff, supporters, sponsors and everyone else associated with Nottingham Rugby. With regards next season, as I am sure you will expect, due to the ongoing Coronavirus situation and lack of confirmation around Championship funding from the RFU, there is a fair amount of uncertainty around the future. However, the directors of Nottingham Rugby, would like to reassure everyone that our strategy for the club remains the same. We want to be playing competitive Championship rugby, whilst continuing to develop The Bay as a premium Community Sports facility, capable of hosting first class rugby and events. We appreciate that there is a lot of uncertainty at the moment, both at Nottingham Rugby, but also across every aspect of society. Please continue to look after yourselves and your families and please do contact us if you have any questions. This is the only statement I can find on Nottinghams website will someone please post the statement about going part- time |
Posted By: dropout22
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2020 at 11:34
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Posted By: isleonian
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2020 at 15:15
| Forgive me but weren't all players 'part-time' until only 25 years ago, didn't Francois Pienaar lift the World Cup as an amateur? |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2020 at 18:18
Last line yet to be substantiated. Shush posted it at the outset, and has since shushed...
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2020 at 20:49
| Blues have asked Supporters and Sponsors to donate their remaining games/sponsorship or they could receive credits for next season. I know most will donate, as we have as a business. |
Posted By: Guinness John
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2020 at 22:42
------------- Bedford Blues Supporter of the Year 2010 - 2011 |
Posted By: Blues fan
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2020 at 12:56
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Posted By: Woody
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2021 at 12:03
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Nottingham updated squad shows 28 players including the six loanees from Tigers. Odd to only have 2 locks and one fly half but 7 back rowers... Looks a sensible size for the number of games ahead with no relegation. How big are other clubs squads? ------------- Forever Green. |
Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2021 at 14:29
------------- Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD. |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2021 at 15:16
Cov, 32, and likewise quite a few who are listed as back row. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: marigold
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2021 at 15:27
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So no relegation from the Championship is confirmed-certainly sensible given no Nat One happening this season and the Scots not playing. Will the Scots be penalised for not playing as I assume they have already received money, like the rest of the Champ clubs, from the RFU for this season |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2021 at 21:10
I wouldn't be surprised if they have to pay the money back as they are not playing. ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2021 at 11:44
| Doncaster have 32, but we are light at loosehead, only Bomber so I expect at least one to come or long term loans |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2021 at 13:04
| I count 43 for Ealing on their website. |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2021 at 13:10
| Jersey squad numbers 33, and that probably won't change unless some major injury concerns... |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2021 at 22:03
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Blues are 31 at the moment with 1 proper fly half as Bell has left before playing. Tupai could cover, or we could get creative an stick a winger there like Niko or Lane. I remember a number of years ago (ND1 days probably) when we had players like Hinton and Harris both were running full backs that also played played fly half, centre and wing, it meant we had effectively 4/5 players who were as fast as wingers and we were very attack minded with a lot of pace. Against a team like Saracens I would be tempted to put someone like Temm (mobile and fast No. 8) at fly half or inside centre for his defence and get an extra back row on the pitch for turnovers/slowing up their ball.
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Posted By: Bedfordian
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2021 at 09:49
| I think all teams will use the Ealing and Saracens games as training and will rotate. Leave the two of them to it. |
Posted By: marigold
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2021 at 09:59
| Bedfordian -I bet strongly that will not be the case when Saracens go to Penzance on March 6th ....... |
Posted By: Woody
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2021 at 10:54
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Nottingham now 27 as Heffernan has joined saints. Rubbish timing. ------------- Forever Green. |
Posted By: marigold
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2021 at 11:26
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Woody 27 is quite a small number given a match day squad of 23 required. Unless 3 of the spare 4 players are front row they will not be able to put out a squad for a match if they have a front row injury. Are there others that can be called upon or will they have to dual register? |
Posted By: Woody
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2021 at 13:17
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I expect we will look to Wasps or Nottingham Trent University in that case. Could easily see Heffernan being loaned back to us though. I think it is a sensible number considering we are not playing for anything this season. Not going to be top two and there is no relegation so why bother? I think Scottish have the right idea myself. Why expose the club financially for nothing? ------------- Forever Green. |
Posted By: Bedfordian
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2021 at 13:55
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For all the eloquent reasons My Woody has put forward. If you have a small squad why risk it against the two teams massively ahead of anyone else. |
Posted By: maire23
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2021 at 03:19
Think it’s 28 with Josh McNulty. I thought the general idea this season was that we utilized NTU more? |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2021 at 08:39
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Interesting that the the report asserts that Josh started his career at Worcester. Broadstreet and Cov evidently don't exist.
(Yes I realise they probably just lifted it from Wikipedia and don't know the full story. It's the way of the rugby world these days 😉). ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Pappashanga
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2021 at 09:53
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Richmond have 38. ------------- pappashanga |
Posted By: Woody
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2021 at 21:33
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Nottingham now up to 34 with six NTU students added. 10 back rowers in that total... ------------- Forever Green. |
Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2021 at 09:16
Thats the spirit ! No team should under estimate Bedford Blues especially Ealing Trailfinders and Saracens. ------------- Ambition should be made of sterner stuff. |
Posted By: dropout22
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2021 at 10:53
| Dont think Pirates at home to Saracens is a foregone conclusion. |
Posted By: stadium
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2021 at 14:35
| Saracens will struggle at Mennaye. Pirates are always difficult to beat at home. |
Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2021 at 16:10
I always thought they were better at sea.  ------------- Moderator http://www.leaguerugby.co.uk" rel="nofollow - National League Rugby Message Boards Remember Wakefield RFC |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2021 at 16:59
Aaaaargh you serious?
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Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2021 at 18:11
I struggle to understand this attitude and can not believe for one moment any player in the Bedford Blues squad and including the Saints players or any the coaching staff would agree with you. Several times on here Bedford `supporters` have stated ` nothing to play for` ` why bother` . I believe you do your own team a massive injustice to assume that they will concede before stepping on to the pitch. Rugby teams pull off the most astounding victories against , on paper and form better teams and I believe that is one of the main reasons we love our sport. Some of us travel the length and breadth of the country to watch our team win or lose. ------------- Ambition should be made of sterner stuff. |
Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2021 at 19:36
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Totally agree with you, I would not expect capitulation and I travel all over the place to support the team. I intend to Travel to Ealing for the second to last match of the season 22/05/21 if permitted, and hope to be playing a match to make it to the finals. If we lose it won’t be because we didn’t try ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2021 at 14:11
------------- Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD. |
Posted By: Pappashanga
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2021 at 14:18
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Thompson also played for Richmond before Jersey tempted him away. No doubt he'll be facing his old team in the friendly on Saturday. Not sure whether any of his old teammates are still playing. ------------- pappashanga |
Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2021 at 14:50
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Will the game be streamed? Be nice to watch it if it is ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2021 at 15:26
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The Pirates v Jersey match is streamed at 2pm. I think England have a match sometime after that. ------------- Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD. |
Posted By: Member728
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2021 at 19:19
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2021 at 21:23
I've wondered a few times if Ealing has suffered a bit in terms of attendance because visiting fans see the result as a foregone conclusion (at least over the past 3-4 seasons). For example, the London Scottish and Richmond games have not been especially well attended even though it is an easy 15-20 minute drive.
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2021 at 08:02
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There are a lot of Championship clubs that don't have travelling support of any great numbers - not sure if this is the case with Richmond and Scottish (although I know we have welcomed supporters from both clubs at Donny - those could easily have been exiles). I just enjoy the game too much, so if the one who must be obeyed has not scheduled something on an away day I will try my hardest to go irrespective of the possible outcome. It would have been good to see what crowds Sarries would have generated at away games - but as there will only be a few games where this is possible we won't really know unless they are beaten to the post and spend another season languishing in the Championship. But if that happens Donny will be in the premiership so we won't know for another year :-) . ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: Woody
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2021 at 14:56
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So i thought I had a full list of all the players signed up or loan to Nottingham this season 41 of them. However the team for Sunday has three new names I must have missed. Can anyone enlighten me? They are not on the website or in any announcements as far as I can see... Wing - Luke Mehson Centre - Will Simmonds Full Back - Ed Coulson Thanks ------------- Forever Green. |
Posted By: isleonian
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2021 at 15:04
Shhhh castleparknight, do keep it a secret, need to catch such as Sarries, Trailfinders and Pirates unaware!
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Posted By: Bluesman11
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2021 at 15:37
Ed coulson had been at Bedford for a couple of years. The ultimate utility player having played every position between 10-15 and had also played minutes at scrum half and even flanker in his time here! Was forced to play a lot at fly half due to injuries so we maybe didn’t see the best of him, but I think full back is his best position. Played for Ampthill in pre season so I’d assumed he’d signed for them ------------- Championship Prediction League Winner 11/12 |
Posted By: Pappashanga
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2021 at 16:37
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Coulson has also played for Hartpury and Richmond. ------------- pappashanga |
Posted By: Woody
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2021 at 16:59
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Thanks Pappashanga and Bluesman. Anyone know the other two? ------------- Forever Green. |
Posted By: Woody
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2021 at 17:02
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Actually it turns out Simmonds has played for us before on loan from Wasps so thanks Google. I feel foolish not recognising the name now. Mehson has come from Exeter so that is nice... ------------- Forever Green. |
Posted By: isleonian
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2021 at 18:45
Maybe Brian Moore will make a comeback? 
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Posted By: Woody
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2021 at 16:05
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Coach and long time club stalwart Neil Fowkes is leaving Nottingham at the end of the season. Don't know where he is off to. Wasps? That's where most of our coaches go... Thanks and good luck Neil. ------------- Forever Green. |
Posted By: Woody
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2021 at 16:07
Are you OK Isleonian?  ------------- Forever Green. |
Posted By: isleonian
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2021 at 18:43
Pretty well thanks Woody, better tomorrow when Knights beat Reds by a narrow margin after an exhilarating game! How's about you dear boy?
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Posted By: isleonian
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2021 at 19:04
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Woody et al, who was that Nottingham fullback who played for England and then did a bit on the after-dinner circuit, decent player but a better speaker, was his name Hodgson? Used to enjoy visiting their old ground to watch really top class rugby!
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Posted By: donnyladinsheffield
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2021 at 19:31
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Simon Hodgkinson? ------------- He's alright and he don't care; He's got thermal underwear |
Posted By: front5
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2021 at 00:38
| Rumour Garry Law of DMP is heading back to Yorkshire??? Is this feasible |
Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2021 at 13:28
It's official, Fowkes signs for Wasps, full-time scrum coach
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Posted By: Woody
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2021 at 14:53
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Not a surprise. Good luck to him. It would be nice to see him off with a win of some kind... Probs not this week though. ------------- Forever Green. |
Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2021 at 15:27
Hopefully not the last game either
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Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2021 at 17:18
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/56914666" rel="nofollow - Neil Fowkes: Wasps appoint Nottingham head coach as full-time scrum coach
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Posted By: isleonian
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2021 at 19:22
| Simon Hodgkinson, Brian Moore &c &c &c, such a great side was Nottingham in the days of the great Midlands clubs such as Coventry, Leicester, Northampton and Nottingham, only Saints now near the top? |
Posted By: Woody
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2021 at 14:52
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Craig Hammond announced as new head coach! Great news ------------- Forever Green. |