Who’s coming up?
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Topic: Who’s coming up?
Posted By: The Blues
Subject: Who’s coming up?
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2023 at 19:34
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Rams played 24 won 20 points 104 Sale played 24 won 21 points 103 Cambridge played 23 won 19 points 99 2/3 games to go! From a Blues perspective it’s be great to have Cambridge, from a league perspective one of the other 2.
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2023 at 20:32
Was it something we said? B&S will bring a certain "je ne sais quoi" to the league ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
The Blues wrote:Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2023 at 21:23
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If I were to choose it would be Sale then Cambridge then Rams, but all three are good teams and any would be welcome ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2023 at 21:29
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I think he was only thinking of geography. Ampthill, Bedford and ourselves covered by a handkerchief, is not great for geographic coverage. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2023 at 21:31
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I will be delighted to welcome whichever team wins N1 to the Stade next season for the simple reason that they will be making the trip on merit. Looks like it is going to be a grandstand finish to the season. ------------- Tackle Low!!!!! |
Posted By: kempstonblue
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2023 at 23:24
If B&S achieve it, I bet it’s completely overlooked by BBC Look East.£ Rumour has it BBC3CR might cover the Ampthill v Bedford game. They ignored the reverse fixture Boxing Day. Luton Town play the night before, so maybe they are shoving the match on DAB, Luton’s normal slot. ------------- The older I get, the more the RFU leave me confused. |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2023 at 23:34
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BBC Radio Cambridgeshire will cover it, Steve Jackson is a long time supporter of the club. Having said that, the hog roast at Cambridge - while no pie - is tasty. I am sure if numbers coming increase, we could add some more food options.
------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: AnIdiotAbroad
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 06:51
Went to the game on Saturday, really difficult assessing just how decent a side Cambridge are against an extremely poor Tykes. They certainly play at a good pace and was good to catch up with Kieran Frost who my son played with @ Carnegie. Good luck to all the promotion chasing sides with just a fag paper between the 3......will it come down to games won? ------------- Transparency avoids ambiguity |
Posted By: greenpower
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 07:06
| is rian hamilton playing for cambridge at the moment and how is he doing also kieran was a great player and it would be great if him and hamilton both returned to wharfedale soon |
Posted By: Big Eddie
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 07:16
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I watched Sale v Rams on Saturday. Sale were more street wise and capitalised on Rams' mistakes of which there were many. Rams should be kicking themselves the match was there to be won but they were too anxious and Sale played with more composure. From my perspective Sale's promotion would bring two huge derbies which would swell the coffers of both clubs and generate a lot of interest but would almost certainly cut off the access to the 4 Sale Sharks players Caldy has intermittent access to. Nye Thomas, Ruben Birch and Ethan Caine have only played two or three games each for Caldy but Elliott Gourlay has played most of Caldy's games. They are all super lads and they will be missed if they are diverted to Heywood Road. As between Rams and Cambridge it is a toss up. Two very hospitable clubs but as a vivacious young lady from Rams made quite a fuss of me when we visited last season ......I would slightly prefer Rams to Cambridge. However having said all of that I think Sale will do it. They have stumbled at the final hurdle a few times in past seasons ...twice against Caldy for the National 2 North title and a few seasons later for the National 1 title. Their coaches Jonathan Keep and Tote Howcroft are very decent guys and after watching them against Rams I feel sure this will be their season. Their two remaining fixtures away against Rosslyn Park and at home against Moseley don't hold any terrors for them and I expect them to get the bonus point wins especially if Sale Sharks ship in a few more pro players to bolster their rosta. ------------- ''The future isn't what it used to be'' |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 07:17
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Cambridge are my narrow leaning for the title, albeit their supporters would be horrified to be dubbed favourites, 'no easy games' etc... 15 points would guarantee it for them, possibly on the rarely-used 'games drawn' tie-breaker. Bedford, Ampthill & Cambridge would be quite a tight cluster in the same league, altho' there have been others: 3 Yorkshire clubs in the Champ for several of the years Jersey have been at this level; also Mose, Cov & Bees in 09/10; Exeter/Plymouth/Pirates the same year; and of course W London, peaking with Scottish/Welsh/Ealing/Richmond for half a season in 16/17. (I realise there's a big discrepancy in distances between above examples... before anyone gets all Google maps on me
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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 07:48
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Three quality rugby clubs and if the ultimate winner is even half as good as Caldy they will be a great addition to the Championship. DMP would have been good - Taylor's pies could compete favorably with the pie magician at Donny but maybe next season. ------------- Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD. |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 08:40
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Unfortunately, there are no league points available for the quality of the pies. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 08:56
Says the man who does appreciate a well made pie
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 10:32
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Personally I have no idea why people have such strong opinions about pies. Can't be bothered myself. Much rather have a curry. Or most other things come to that. And no, it's definitely not part of the criteria for promotion.  ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 11:48
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I'm avoiding promotion speculation at the moment but do prefer a hog roast. Whatever happened to Rosslyn Park and their advertising hoarding income. They were there and then blew up. Some very decent teams lower down though, Plymouth Albion, Cinderford and Bishops Stortford are all a handful. Cambridge did manage to beat Sale H and A and but for a last 10 minute yellow card should have beaten Rams at home. Ifs and buts. ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 12:24
------------- Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD. |
Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 12:27
Bombay Bad Boy at Caldy for you then!! ------------- Tackle Low!!!!! |
Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 12:39
Leicester Lions main sponsor is Burger King................................straight into the Premiership then,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 12:43
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Jersey have recently started selling John Hacket's pastry products in the Watering Hole. The Jamaican Jerk efforts require lots of beer to wash them down! http://scontent.fjer1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/295805288_10221146554200026_3607363404322652687_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg_p526x296&_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=R5D7yi-S6cMAX8DqMUQ&_nc_ht=scontent.fjer1-1.fna&oh=00_AfCkdO1O8Ot59dEYS76F2GPXrXcm3LvB8As9A0zXLGgA1g&oe=642F1599" rel="nofollow - https://scontent.fjer1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/295805288_10221146554200026_3607363404322652687_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg_p526x296&_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=R5D7yi-S6cMAX8DqMUQ&_nc_ht=scontent.fjer1-1.fna&oh=00_AfCkdO1O8Ot59dEYS76F2GPXrXcm3LvB8As9A0zXLGgA1g&oe=642F1599
------------- Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD. |
Posted By: Geoff DC
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 14:03
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Or as Pirates Fans used to sing when playing Yorkshire sides: Oh I'd rather have a pasty than a pie, Oh I'd rather have a pasty than a pie, Oh I'd rather have a pasty, rather have a pasty, rather have a pasty than a pie. To the tune of she'll be coming round the mountain |
Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 14:10
------------- Tackle Low!!!!! |
Posted By: Big Eddie
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 14:42
Cambridge are good at the ifs and buts......Cambridge were probably Caldy's toughest test last season .... a moment of magic from Nick Royle gave Caldy a draw at Cambridge and at the Paton Field Stadium Cambridge could have won with something to spare .......if they had not been greedy and just kicked their penalties rather than looking for a possible 7 points every time Caldy transgressed. Sale are battle hardened and mentally tougher than in previous seasons...they won't choke during this run in. Rams and Cambridge need 10 pts and 15 pts if they are to wrest the National 1 title away from Sale. ------------- ''The future isn't what it used to be'' |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 16:08
I said curry... ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 16:28
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Closest thing to a curry at Caldy (allegedly 😉) ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: Big Eddie
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 16:47
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The BBB has little equal in the Western World..............other Pot Noodles are pale imitations ------------- ''The future isn't what it used to be'' |
Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 18:53
------------- Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD. |
Posted By: Cricks at 2
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 19:31
| There are some great pubs in Cambridge - nuff said. |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2023 at 12:08
| So Cambridge need a 5 point win to be level on point and be promoted next week! |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2023 at 12:30
Yep, on the strength of a drawn game. Seems odd, but them's the rules. I'd be very happy to see them do it though. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2023 at 14:35
| I can't think of a better tie-breaker, after games won, than more draws (which effectively includes fewer defeats as a corollary). You could go for points difference - Cambridge currently well ahead of top-three rivals on that count too... |
Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2023 at 14:47
| Someone has told me that Sale FC cannot go up into the Championship, not sure why, have asked for info?? |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2023 at 15:33
I don't necessarily disagree with it - I just prefer the age-old footy way of goals difference (translating to points difference) acting as the first tie-breaker. As you say though, that would still work in Cambridge's favour, so no worries. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2023 at 16:22
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Soccer does not have bonus points, so if you have the same number of points and wins, you must (unless there has been a points deduction) have the same number of draws. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2023 at 16:56
They've played all of their fixtures and are 2nd behind Rams, so they're out of the picture now.
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2023 at 17:06
But as a famous Welsh referee once said - this is not soccer 😉 ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2023 at 17:19
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Cambridge 59 Moseley 10 Bonus point win. Promotion on match drawn against Leeds Tykes - what a season with 1,002.points scored! ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2023 at 17:34
| Congratulations to Cambridge |
Posted By: *Stalwart
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2023 at 19:51
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Congratulations Cambridge welcome to The Championship. Another local derby for The Pirates - just the 666 mile round trip! ------------- *Stalwart |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2023 at 21:50
Blues are getting spoilt with local games!
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2023 at 23:35
Thank you Stalwart.
I'd better start looking for places to stay and recommended routes. Remember going to Taunton to pick up a car on the late Friday train. Took hours to get to Taunton, someone said as far again to Penzance. I'm sure they were exaggerating!
------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2023 at 00:06
A14, M6, turn left. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2023 at 03:38
Always wanted to see old haunts at Potton, Clifton, Biddenham and Biggleswade  ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: cheshire exile
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2023 at 08:45
Not much of an exaggeration,, Taunton to Penzance is 140 miles.
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Posted By: Donnyknightfan
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2023 at 10:03
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Congratulations to Cambridge on their promotion and looking forward to seeing their fans at Castle Park next season. ------------- Donny Knights - best team in Yorkshire |
Posted By: Cricks at 2
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2023 at 11:48
| Great achievement by Cambridge, looking forward to our short journey. Really peeved that Richmond have been relegated, hope to see them back 24/25. |
Posted By: Bigbluepip
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2023 at 11:52
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I guess this all depends what the RFU do with the leagues next year, I’m still not sure they’ve consulted the bones, or however they make a decision. ------------- I want you all to line up in a circle and pair up in three's alphabetically by height. |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2023 at 11:53
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First things first. Huge congratulations to Jersey. A massive season for the club, and very well deserved. My team tried to spoil the party yesterday but Jersey were just all round better. Hard luck, Ealing, you pushed them all the way. A bit like the Wrexham/Notts County scenario, except neither side gets promoted. Bad luck, Richmond, you lost out to a Scottish side that recruited the big guns to see them safe. Well done to Ampthill and Caldy for being two small community clubs who have proved themselves at this level. And finally, congratulations to Cambridge. Another reasonable local derby. I hope Wasps are not allowed to participate in the Championship next season and I hope the RFU make their minds up about the format for the 2024/25 season before the first game kicks off. Not holding my breathe though. ------------- Always trying to stay bright-eyed and bushy-tailed. |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2023 at 14:28
Surely it depends on whether the RFU is in existence and not forced into a takeover by CVC. I have never seen such incompetent and self serving management. The East stand and subsequent financial chaos have become a perfect storm.  ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: Runitback
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2023 at 17:50
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Massive well done to Caldy, who ultimately decided who went up and who went down. Caldy should of lost at Richmond 24 points down after 20 minutes but dug deep to win . . . and of course beating Ealing at Paton Field . . these were both key games! Well done Jersey and good luck to Cambridge I just really hope Wasps done re-emerge in Championship!!! ------------- Run with it |
Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 02 May 2023 at 12:08
Richmond lost out to half a team that relied on loan players to make up the numbers for an entire season. It has made a total farce of the league and the real sadness is that the half a team weren't the ones relegated. (Although NL1 will be glad to see a real club joining them I would have thought).
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Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 02 May 2023 at 14:53
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My understanding of the Richmond model is that all the players have real jobs and that players commit to fitness/ and cardio exercise away from the club training sessions. Essentially the players play the game for enjoyment and although they receive 'expenses' they are not playing for financial gain. To have a real full time job and play that standard of rugby is exceptional commitment. To allow Wasps into this league and allow a club like Richmond to be demoted is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. To allow London Scottish to stay up by filling their team with Premiership contracted players is equally wrong . There needs to be some changes somewhere !. ------------- Ambition should be made of sterner stuff. |
Posted By: Moseley Mauler
Date Posted: 02 May 2023 at 15:11
Yep.....
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 02 May 2023 at 16:20
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Posted By: greenpower
Date Posted: 02 May 2023 at 17:11
great words no 7 
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Posted By: Big Eddie
Date Posted: 02 May 2023 at 18:13
The same model as Caldy. Every player at Caldy is either in higher education or is in employment in a real job. Training Tuesday and Thursday evening at the Paton Field Stadium (or on Chester RFC's 4g pitch) and in their own time for the gym stuff. Occupations include: Pharmacist Doctor Marketing Manager Builder Plumber Teacher Carpenter Financial Planner Customer Services Manager Policeman Brewery Sales Manager Barrister......(Could be Barista) Joiner Thespian There are other jobs featured as well ------------- ''The future isn't what it used to be'' |
Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 02 May 2023 at 18:16
Are these the new Carry On movies? ------------- Moderator http://www.leaguerugby.co.uk" rel="nofollow - National League Rugby Message Boards Remember Wakefield RFC |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 02 May 2023 at 18:27
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The perceived injustice of DR and Loan players at certain clubs in the Championship and National 1 will continue until these leagues vote to rein back the maximum allowed in a match day squad to a similar level as that allowed in N2. The London Scottish situation is not the first raised in this forum and I doubt it will be the last until changes are made. ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 02 May 2023 at 18:53
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But the Premiership clubs want to control players, and want them to learn their trade in the National Leagues and Championship. And the RFU seems beholden to the Premiership clubs. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: ExtraB
Date Posted: 02 May 2023 at 23:14
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Perhaps Richmond could have adopted the same approach and utilised loan players which is entirely within the rules. Fabulous to see Scottish find a model that works for them given the uncertainty of the leagues funding. ------------- Car'n the Rams! |
Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 03 May 2023 at 17:15
Yes Richmond could have done that and filled half their team with loan players each week and shown utter contempt for their own players and the history and tradition of their great club. I suspect they didn't decide against it but rather didn't even consider it. They were happy to remain a proper rugby club and well done them.
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Posted By: ExtraB
Date Posted: 03 May 2023 at 18:54
I think you might find they used the occasional loan player - pretty sure one or 2 against Scottish as they were injury ravaged following the knocks key players took against Cov the week before. But my point remains, it’s within the rules to use loan players - utter contempt aside. As for you remark about being a “proper rugby club” what is that definition of proper? Please elaborate… is it a club that uses only home grown talent like Richmond or one that avoids loan players? Very interested in your view.
------------- Car'n the Rams! |
Posted By: High Heidjin
Date Posted: 03 May 2023 at 19:19
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In the penultimate Championship game of the season between London Scottish and Richmond, I think you’ll find that each team fielded three loan / DR players. It’s about time some people stopped crying, “foul” and stuck to the facts. For whatever reason, Richmond had a dire performance in the run-in to the end of the season. Blame it on injuries or what you will, but facts and results speak for themselves. ------------- The Inner Game Will Win Every Time |
Posted By: Exiled_Scots
Date Posted: 03 May 2023 at 19:44
Well said HH and well respected connected representatives from other Championship clubs who should know better, for some strange reasons feel the need to mix up fact with fiction on these message board. ------------- Watch Out - The Scottish Phoenix Club is on the Up!! Seven down one to go |
Posted By: Tyke
Date Posted: 04 May 2023 at 10:08
According to the team published on the club web site pre-game, there appeared to be seven Harlequins players in the squad: Trenholm Cleaves Jibulu Litterick Jurevicius Taulani Slevin ------------- If only Webb-Ellis hadn't given them the ball back! |
Posted By: ExtraB
Date Posted: 04 May 2023 at 14:34
Boo hoo - I love the taste of these salty tears! FYI Matas is ex LS Amateurs so scrub one lol ------------- Car'n the Rams! |
Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 04 May 2023 at 16:23
There is a great difference between using an occasional loan player as Richmond and most other clubs did and the way LS operated for the entire season but you know that of course. A proper rugby club in my opinion is one who has pride in its history and tradition and does not give that up in order to become a vehicle for a other clubs to give their players a run out just to stay in a league in which they are hopelessly ill equipped to exist. A proper rugby club would have remained true to themselves and fielded sides comprised mainly of their own players and kept their own identity not surrendered that to become a Quins junior team. A proper rugby club would accept that they might have to drop a division or two to find a level at which they can compete and would be happy in the knowledge that they were keeping alive everything that those before them had fought to keep. That's my definition of a proper rugby club and you and anybody else of course are perfectly happy to disagree. But if you do please don't try to misrepresent what I have said or make up what you would like me to believe.
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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 04 May 2023 at 16:37
Plus Charalambous from Bath. So much for posters mixing up fact and fiction! But that seems to be the way it is now. Ignore the facts, pretend those you disagree with have said things they haven't, pretend they have allegiances they don't and pretend they are talking about one specific incident when they aren't. The most ridiculous thing is that their nonsense is so blindingly obvious.
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Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 04 May 2023 at 17:54
| Add Henderson who is listed on the Quins site |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 04 May 2023 at 20:47
The Championship sides only have themselves to blame. This has been going on at various clubs at level 2 and 3 for some years. It will only cease to be a bone of contention when there are stricter limits on the number of DR/Loan players in each match day squad (as there is in level 4) ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 04 May 2023 at 21:44
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But with the funding cuts, some clubs have no option other than to bring in DR and loan players. The RFU see this as a win/win. ------------- Tackle Low!!!!! |
Posted By: BigChief
Date Posted: 05 May 2023 at 07:43
As is yours WE - As is yours !! ------------- For the ordinary purposes of conversation, a superficial knowledge of many things goes further than an intimacy with one or two. |
Posted By: workerbee
Date Posted: 05 May 2023 at 09:59
| The regulation is quite clear a championship club can play 3 loan players and up to 10 Academy players from another club making a total of 13 players out of a squad of 23. I am not sure about how that creates a club Identity, the only people that it benefits are the players who get game time but in reality still identify with their Home club. this shows on the attendance records , LS have the lowest in the league. Perhaps if the RFU amended the regulation by insisting that D/L or Academy players were on a fixed term loan for the season. |
Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 05 May 2023 at 10:34
I think caution is the watchword here, a certain west midlands club relied on players from a travelling band, who went belly up and said west mids club will now be playing at level 5 next year because of said reliance on other peoples players. Just saying...............................
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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 05 May 2023 at 11:52
I (along with several others) have highlighted the falsehoods. Now it's your turn to highlight mine. Until then you are just another discredited keyboard warrior in my book.
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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 05 May 2023 at 11:54
Totally agree Raider. It's why the Championship is as discredited as the Premiership as far as I am concerned.
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 05 May 2023 at 13:52
Yeah. All Champ clubs are exactly the same, eh? ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 06 May 2023 at 11:06
No of course they aren't and I clearly didn't say that did I? But if a league adopts a ridiculous rule like this it only takes one or two teams to use it to the maximum to adversely affect sporting competition between the clubs in my opinion.
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 06 May 2023 at 11:58
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'The Championship sides only have themselves to blame'? It's the RFU that ultimately sets the parameters, not the clubs. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 06 May 2023 at 13:52
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And the RFU bows to the Premiership clubs ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |