Springbok and Australian Internationals in England
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Topic: Springbok and Australian Internationals in England
Posted By: Richard Lowther
Subject: Springbok and Australian Internationals in England
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2019 at 19:38
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I am trying to compile some stats on the number of South African and Australian Internationals who played club rugby in England before 2005. They must either internationals prior to coming or later. I am only interested in Interested in International players, not all South African or Australians! Over to you. Thank you. ------------- Moderator http://www.leaguerugby.co.uk" rel="nofollow - National League Rugby Message Boards Remember Wakefield RFC |
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2019 at 19:59
| Pieter Muller Doncaster 2004/5 |
Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2019 at 20:05
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Montgomery (in Wales technically) Skinstad (are we counting Rhodesians as South Africans?) |
Posted By: Albert Fishwick
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2019 at 20:44
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Andre Snyman, Braam van Straaten. ------------- That's easy for you to say. |
Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2019 at 22:15
| Brent Russell (South Africa) - Newport(Salop) RUFC (Yes Newport Salop) and Saracens |
Posted By: Albert Fishwick
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2019 at 23:04
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Wendell Sailor (briefly). ------------- That's easy for you to say. |
Posted By: Stoatgobbler
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2019 at 01:19
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Graham Mackay, I'm sure he turned out for Leeds for a few games. |
Posted By: Albert Fishwick
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2019 at 04:21
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He did, and was a cracking player, but he never played union for Australia. ------------- That's easy for you to say. |
Posted By: One For The Ditch
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2019 at 08:55
Started off in Newport (Salop) 3rds too, until poached by the 1sts!
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Thatbloke wrote:Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2019 at 09:35
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So far I have these players from the late 90s. South Africans Henry Honibull Bedford Joel Stransky Leicester Fritz Van Heerden Leicester Brendon Ventor London Irish Jan De Beer Sale Dawie Theron Sale Marius Hurter Newcastle Gary Pagel Northampton Francois Pienaar Saracens Australians Warwick Waugh Bath Alistair Murdoch Bedford Richard Tombs Gloucester Garrick Morgan Harlequins Pat Howard Leicester ------------- Moderator http://www.leaguerugby.co.uk" rel="nofollow - National League Rugby Message Boards Remember Wakefield RFC |
Posted By: MikeGC
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2019 at 09:49
| Graeme Bond played for Sale Sharks - if I remember correctly he retired from rugby around 2003/04 (no time to google) |
Posted By: Puli.
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2019 at 10:14
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Don’t know if this fits your criteria of South African Internationals but Zimbabwean international fly-half David Walters captained Hull RFC in the 1992/93 season. ------------- If Rugby is the game they play in Heaven ..... Why does it hurt like Hell when you retire? |
Posted By: paddym
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2019 at 10:16
| Hentie Maartens. London Irish and Bath |
Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2019 at 10:54
| Peter Jorgensen played for London Welsh in National Five South - he returned to Australia after about six months and was capped within the year, and came back to the UK to play for Northampton later in his career. |
Posted By: JonDee
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2019 at 12:54
| Andre Vos played and captained for Quins until he retired in 2005 |
Posted By: leeroy
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2019 at 16:52
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Garrick Fay Wasps 1970 (and Middlesex tour to Canada) Australia 1971-79
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Posted By: Guinness John
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2019 at 17:13
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Most certainly the legendary Rudolph (Rudi) Straeuli Bedford. ------------- Bedford Blues Supporter of the Year 2010 - 2011 |
Posted By: hophog
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2019 at 17:25
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Mark Connors, Northampton, Australia Jason Little, Bristol, Gloucester, Australia Rudolf Straeuli, Bedford, South Africa Thinus Delport, Gloucester, South Africa David Wilson, Harlequins, Australia Andre Snyman, Leeds Braam van Straaten, Leeds
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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2019 at 18:01
| Lote Tuquri played for Leicester Tigers on checking I think it may have been after 2005, not sure |
Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2019 at 18:15
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Posted By: Fake_Shemp
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2019 at 19:52
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Mark Andrews played for Newcastle in 2003/4 and Matt Burke was playing for them at that time. "The Premiership is awash with South Africans: Thinus Delport, Jake Boer, Ryan Strudwick, Warren Britz, Braam van Straaten, Andre Vos, Marius Hurter, Glenn Gelderbloom, Charl Marais, Naka Drotske and Brendan Venter are playing in England; Percy Montgomery, Adrian Garvey and Pieter Muller are with Welsh clubs and the prop Robbie Kempson is in Ulster." http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2003/jan/24/rugbyunion.newcastlefalcons" rel="nofollow - https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2003/jan/24/rugbyunion.newcastlefalcons
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Posted By: GWJ
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2019 at 21:56
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Bill Calcraft, who was part of the 1984 Grand Slam Wallaby squad, later played and coached (?) at London Welsh in the mid/late 80's. Also, I think that Alistair Murdoch, who has already been claimed by Bedford, also had a spell at LW.
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Posted By: Stoatgobbler
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2019 at 01:07
The original question mentioned international players, not necessarily internation rugby union players. Mackay got a cap for Australia at RL (and it seems Scotland RL too!), so let's put him in the list.
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Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2019 at 07:58
Correct on both counts. Calcraft was part of the coaching team alongside John Dawes from around 91-93 (he gets a namecheck in the From the Archive feature in tomorrow's programme), and Murdoch played one pre-season friendly at the very end of his career but never appeared in a competitive fixture. |
Posted By: billesleyexile
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2019 at 09:36
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Robert Challoner, Mose and Australia (1899) ------------- keep the faith |
Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2019 at 14:22
Guys - Zimbabwe / Rhodesia is not South Africa that is a bit like saying Scotland is a part of England  ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: billesleyexile
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2019 at 14:57
Missed those posts  ------------- keep the faith |
Posted By: paddym
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2019 at 11:49
| Scott Staniforth, Faan Rautenbach and Danie Coetzee all London Irish. |