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Topic: Quick kick off after penalty try
Posted By: Barum man
Subject: Quick kick off after penalty try
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2019 at 15:08
Yesterday in Barum’s match against Maidenhead Barum were awarded a penalty try. A Maidenhead player got the ball and sprinted to the halfway line and kicked off before most all of the Barum players had got back in their own half – the ref was also still way back in the 22.

I have never seen this before and was surprised that the ref allowed it to stand so I guess it must be within the law's.

 




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Posted By: MaidsBoy
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2019 at 15:48
Originally posted by Barum man Barum man wrote:

Yesterday in Barum’s match against Maidenhead Barum were awarded a penalty try.
A Maidenhead player got the ball and sprinted to the halfway line and kicked
off before most all of the Barum players had got back in their own half – the ref
was also still way back in the 22.
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I have never seen this before and was surprised that the ref allowed it to
stand so I guess it must be within the rules.



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Hi Barum Man,

We had it done to us in a preseason game a couple of years ago, by Rams, and subsequently tried it a couple of times since then. It is definitely NOT allowed, as has been confirmed to us since. You’ll notice only two Maids players chased initially, as we fully expected the ref to pull it back, which he didn’t.

A mistake from ‘Sir’, which could have changed the outcome of the game.


Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2019 at 15:57
There has been a lot of discussion on this topic over at rugby refs.
In general the concensus is that unless the non-offendong side are messing about, they should be given the benefit of the doubt - so normally I would expect it to be called back.


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Posted By: Barum man
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2019 at 16:05
Originally posted by MaidsBoy MaidsBoy wrote:

[QUOTE=Barum man] Yesterday in Barum’s match against Maidenhead Barum were awarded a penalty try.
A Maidenhead player got the ball and sprinted to the halfway line and kicked
off before most all of the Barum players had got back in their own half – the ref
was also still way back in the 22.
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I have never seen this before and was surprised that the ref allowed it to
stand so I guess it must be within the rules.




Hi Barum Man,

We had it done to us in a preseason game a couple of years ago, by Rams, and subsequently tried it a couple of times since then. It is definitely NOT allowed, as has been confirmed to us since. You’ll notice only two Maids players chased initially, as we fully expected the ref to pull it back, which he didn’t.

A mistake from ‘Sir’, which could have changed the outcome of the game.

It could be advantages for finding a good touch when an area is not full guarded or even just tapping it over the 10m line and regathering if you have a few supporting players. I wondered what the heck was going on Confused


Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2019 at 17:03
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:


There has been a lot of discussion on this topic over at rugby refs.
In
general the concensus is that unless the non-offendong side are messing
about, they should be given the benefit of the doubt - so normally I
would expect it to be called back.


No difference between that and taking a quick penalty when the other teams back is turned or they aren't back 10 yards as often happens - never heard of anyone suggesting it shouldn't be allowed.

If one side can get to the halfway line the other can.

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RAID ON


Posted By: Count Ford
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2019 at 18:04
It's an interesting one..but seems a counterproductive idea. What if the penalty try was given for collapsing a scrum/maul and therefore the receiving team is not back in position because they are in a heap on the floor, all caused by foul play of the other team.


Posted By: Monkey Boy
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2019 at 20:15
It’s not in the laws of the game so you retake the kick off



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