European Finals
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Topic: European Finals
Posted By: Toulouse
Subject: European Finals
Date Posted: 23 May 2020 at 05:56
| The EPCR has made it known they want to hold the European Finals on the 16th and 17th October at the same venue. Airfare and hotel prices rising for that weekend. |
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Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 23 May 2020 at 10:23
| I had concert tickets in London for that weekend - and that was the rearranged date, rescheduled from mid-June - and this week it got pushed back again to June 2021. Don't know if that's the artist, venue or promoter being ultra-cautious, but it suggests to me that the entertainment industry are not entirely convinced that large gatherings (this venue is about 2,500 capacity) will be allowed by then. |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 23 May 2020 at 10:24
| Where was this made known Toulouse? I'd read that as a possibility altho' there was also talk of completing 6N at around that time. I have tickets for both games & was due to be in France today. Euro Rugby/Ticketmaster never sent a note about the games not being on today! |
Posted By: donnyladinsheffield
Date Posted: 23 May 2020 at 12:16
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I should be in Mhazelnutille now. Instead I am queuing in a windy Tesco car park. Life ain’t fair ------------- He's alright and he don't care; He's got thermal underwear |
Posted By: Toulouse
Date Posted: 23 May 2020 at 12:53
On the 14/15th May it was put on the BBC sport page, RTE and an EPCR statement. If they do take place they believe this is the only possible weekend. Our group of five have booked flights while they are still cheap.£68 return from Stansted....If it does not go ahead we will still go and if we are lucky either Toulon or Montpellier may have a home game....if not a weekend of culture
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Posted By: Toulouse
Date Posted: 23 May 2020 at 12:54
| Why does the place where the finals take place come out on this site as Mhazelnutille ??? |
Posted By: Toulouse
Date Posted: 23 May 2020 at 12:58
| When I booked 2 days ago ret. flight was £68....now over £100... |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 23 May 2020 at 13:46
because that place-name contains the incredibly obscene and deeply offensive sequence of letters A*R*S*E in it, thereby triggering the fruit filter that protects the ears and other sensitivities of RM dwellers...
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Toulouse wrote:Posted By: Deva Delinquent
Date Posted: 23 May 2020 at 13:52
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The wife and I should have been in France for the finals too, but luckily for us (poor planning by me) I hadn't booked any travel because the dates we wanted were a little tricky for the dates we had booked for accommodation. We were able to get a refund from the accommodation with an option to re-book with them once the new dates are confirmed. I think we might well take the train when the time comes.
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Posted By: donnyladinsheffield
Date Posted: 23 May 2020 at 14:29
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It’s on official site that is a possible date. My mate who bought tickets also got notification. But not confirmed
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Posted By: Bigmal
Date Posted: 23 May 2020 at 16:08
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Like many keeping a close watch on situation. I had flights with BA at a reasonable price and transferred to October dates. Other option for me was a flight from Bris to Nice then the train.
Not convinced games will go ahead as they have to finish both quarter and semi finals and allow for social distancing. Position not helped by quarantine situation as France now requiring the same on their side. Clarity needrd chaps but health comes first. |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 24 May 2020 at 20:37
The quarantine situation was complicated by the EU who decreed the reciprocal no quarantine agreement between UK and France was illegal if it didn't apply to all of EU. Hence it was dropped. As things stand a 3 day trip would take a month when 14 days quarantine was applied at both ends. ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Bigmal
Date Posted: 25 May 2020 at 09:09
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I know it isnt easy but the organisers need to sort this out asap. It may be better to postpone until next season and write off the competition?
The tickets and flights were paid for 12 monthas ago !
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 25 May 2020 at 10:58
Correct r999, but things are moving so fast that I'd say there was no chance of things 'standing' like that for even 2 months, let alone the 5 until the prospective Euro finals w/e. Some people are warning about second phases in winter, in which case October might be a premium spot...  |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 25 May 2020 at 11:10
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But then they need to give the TV companies their money back. They booked early too. I do feel someone should have looked into insurance - though that just makes the loss someone else's problem. The point of insurance is to offset the cost of events that probably will not happen but which you cannot afford if they do. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 26 May 2020 at 09:54
Yes, but the purpose of insurance companies is to ensure that they price the premium of anything that will probably not happen so high that you don’t pay it anyway. Then they charge you a premium for things that will certainly never happen and keep the income while ensuring that anything with a remote chance of happening is excluded as God’s will and so uninsurable!
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Posted By: Bigmal
Date Posted: 30 May 2020 at 17:11
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So green light for rugby which means that outstanding games can be played assuming the payers can get to the venue?
Mhazelnutille possible but not sure how they will keep the fans safe . A large no of tickets sold already but no seat allocation as yet. |
Posted By: Monkey Boy
Date Posted: 30 May 2020 at 18:27
You think France is letting lots of English in to their cities in a few months?
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Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 30 May 2020 at 18:57
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In a word "Non"!!! Or two words "Absolutement Non!!"
Plus competitive sport to restart - accelerated release of the lock down - give it a month max and we'll be back where we started and, I have to say, all to deflect attention from the Dominic Cummings affair who in most peoples opinions is an absolute" w****r"
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Posted By: Bigmal
Date Posted: 30 May 2020 at 19:50
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Points taken gents but still a few months to go. Unfortunately deflecting attention is what I thought. |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 30 May 2020 at 20:27
Not sure they will go ahead with any crowd at all - as somebody still trying to get refunds for the Italy v England game I wouldn't be spending anymore of my hard earned on foreign travel any time soon. ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Monkey Boy
Date Posted: 31 May 2020 at 19:14
Have you had the ticket refund yet?
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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 31 May 2020 at 19:22
No - bought 3 tickets - not heard anything from Italy whatsoever ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: donnyladinsheffield
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2020 at 21:46
I'm sure we had ours ages ago. I'll check. Still nothing from Trenitalia yet so any tips on getting money out of them apprecated ------------- He's alright and he don't care; He's got thermal underwear |
Posted By: donnyladinsheffield
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2020 at 18:50
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I was wrong (plus ca change). The match is postponed so until new date announced and then say prefer refund, it’s is behind closed doors or cancelled then they are hanging on to our hard earned. ------------- He's alright and he don't care; He's got thermal underwear |
Posted By: Bigmal
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2020 at 08:33
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Talk in todays press of various options for rugby at all levels incl mention of potential clash between internationals and Euro finals.
Would it not make sense for Euro organisers to postpone finals until next year ( say April) as it is unlikely it will have time to finish this years games and commence next years competition? Likewise the RFU need to face up to reality given the range of issues currently faced by us all. I dont see any international games being played in front of crowds this year so playing in empty stadia is unavoidable. Games could be played at convenient locations because the full experience is just not going to be available to us punters.
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2020 at 09:55
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Twickenham is convenient for TV - most of which is based in West London. It has all the camera positions set up permanently. And is owned by the RFU, so costs nothing to hire. It is about getting TV money in to keep RFU and premiership clubs afloat and the odd scrap will be thrown to the community clubs. Someone from the RFU was on the radio today and did admit that the community clubs are the game as without them there are no new players and therefore no england team. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2020 at 11:40
Article on the internet says RFU see no value in holding Internationals behind closed doors due to the loss of ticket, hospitality and on-day sales money - estimated at £5m per game (which seems a bit low to me as ticket sales alone should exceed £5m per game) ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2020 at 15:40
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Tickets might exceed £5m - but first do not forget VAT. And what is the cost of opening up Twickenham with all the stewards, bar staff etc. £5m could be the net. It is still nearly £70 per seat ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2020 at 16:16
You may be correct £5m may be the nett - £70 per seat as a profit would make sense, as a gross is way under. Agreed re cost of running a game at Twickenham - that was the gist of the RFU point regarding pointless without a crowd. ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2020 at 16:25
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But you would run without bar and catering staff and with almost no stewards - so the costs are lower. Abnd you still get the TV money. AndI seem to remember that that was significant. So while it moght be half a loaf - surely that is better than no bread. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2020 at 20:31
From the article I read, the RFU do not feel it is worth it without a crowd. ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2020 at 21:42
Still have to pay for the electricity, still have to provide hospitality for the limited number of blazers allowed in, still have to pay for the water the players will use. With a 80,000 capacity stadium, that won't be cheap.
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Posted By: donnyladinsheffield
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 10:11
But there is no fun in social distanced blazer hospitality in an empty Stadium (assuming it would be allowed in accordance with regs in force at the time) and if no money to be made then there is clearly no point ------------- He's alright and he don't care; He's got thermal underwear |
Posted By: Bigmal
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2020 at 22:31
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So EPRC still aiming for the Euro finals in France in October.
Will they happennand how long will they wait if Mhazelnutille not keen?
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Posted By: Toulouse
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2020 at 12:57
| EPCR have confirmed dates for European finals. The 16th and 17th October in Mhazelnutille. |
Posted By: Toulouse
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2020 at 13:00
Why does Mar seille come out as Mhazelnutille?
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Posted By: oneagainstthehead
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2020 at 15:57
Because Rolling-maul automatically searches for letter strings that spell naughty words and replaces them with fruit and nuts. Very frustrating if you live in Scun*horpe! ------------- Speak softly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2020 at 11:17
Confirmed today that the finals WILL NOT be in M a r s e ille this season. 2021 finals in M a r s e ille, 2022 final at Tottenham Hotspur FC. As yet no venue confirmed for this season. As I said before, I wouldn't spend money on travelling to France. ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Deva Delinquent
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2020 at 13:05
| It's gonna be Twickenham. |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2020 at 13:54
I suspect they may wait until at least the semi-finalists are known, if not the finalists. I'm sure they have sounded several stadia out re possible venues, Twickenham likely to be one (probably Dublin and Paris?) I imagine they won't use Twickenham unless 1 of the finalists is English - wouldn't make sense to have thousands of foreigners travelling with hotels, assuming anyone can attend ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Deva Delinquent
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2020 at 14:14
Good shout that, Raider. Another thing to consider is what each country has in place regarding travel restrictions nearer to the time of the actual finals taking place. Lots of things can still go wring between now and then - Australia are now seeing second lockdowns in certain cities, so this could well throw a spanner into everything if we see the same in Europe over the coming weeks. One thing is for sure, it won't get moved to Cardiff
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Posted By: Bigmal
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2020 at 20:05
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Judging by the hotel prices in Mhazelnutille the decision took commercial interests into account.
At least flights from were still reasonable so Easyjet not involved! At my age I'd rather go anywhere other than Twickenham. The organisation last time I was there for a Euro final was really poor. Ive just been awarded my PhD in flight/ hotel re organisation ! |