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Topic: Player wins compensation over revenge tackle
Posted By: Steve@Mose
Subject: Player wins compensation over revenge tackle
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2023 at 10:31
Quite a sickening tackle.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-64747630" rel="nofollow - Reading rugby player wins compensation over revenge tackle





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Posted By: backrowb
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2023 at 11:12
If it is 10 million, who pays?
A terrible injury.  In women's rugby outside level 1&2 the disparity in sizes can be huge


Posted By: dumbape
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2023 at 12:07
Almost certainly the RFU insurance provider. There might be some coming from RFU coffers depending on the policy excesses etc. Be interesting to see if the insurer tries to take action against the culprit as it seems to be pretty clear cut in this ruling.

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Posted By: oneagainstthehead
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2023 at 12:15
Originally posted by dumbape dumbape wrote:

Almost certainly the RFU insurance provider. There might be some coming from RFU coffers depending on the policy excesses etc. Be interesting to see if the insurer tries to take action against the culprit as it seems to be pretty clear cut in this ruling.
I would like to think somebody has played their last ever game …


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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2023 at 12:32
Both players are covered by RFU insurance.

So the injured player would already have been eligible for the cover under the Accident policy, but this has a much lower limit.

The defendant is covered for public liability - the purpose of this case is i believe to identify that there is such a liability.

Someone with legal training would need to read the policy to determine if the insurer could then claim any of the sum awarded from the defendant.


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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2023 at 13:31
Originally posted by oneagainstthehead oneagainstthehead wrote:

Originally posted by dumbape dumbape wrote:

Almost certainly the RFU insurance provider. There might be some coming from RFU coffers depending on the policy excesses etc. Be interesting to see if the insurer tries to take action against the culprit as it seems to be pretty clear cut in this ruling.

I would like to think somebody has played their last ever game …


From what I have read, such a person has no right to nbe involved in rugby in any respect.

Does anyone know if she has been suspended for life?

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Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2023 at 13:56
No idea on any disciplinary action taken against Natasha King.

The judgement:

http://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Watts-v-King-judgment.pdf" rel="nofollow - https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Watts-v-King-judgment.pdf


Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2023 at 14:07
Rugby is a very tough game, full of emotion, skill and physicality. With it there comes a certain amount of sculdugary, but this is something else. This is nasty, pre-meditated and intended to physically injure another player.
Forget about a lifetime ban, surely the question has to be should this individual be in prison?

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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2023 at 14:13
It was in the 2017-18 season, and the discipline pages for that season are no longer up on the RFU  website.


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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2023 at 17:06
Originally posted by Brizzer Brizzer wrote:

Rugby is a very tough game, full of emotion, skill and physicality. With it there comes a certain amount of sculdugary, but this is something else. This is nasty, pre-meditated and intended to physically injure another player.
Forget about a lifetime ban, surely the question has to be should this individual be in prison?


Unfortunately, whilst I agree with your opinion, the burden of proof is a lot higher for a criminal conviction than it is for a civil case

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Posted By: dumbape
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2023 at 22:39
Certainly a life time ban would seem appropriate to me.

While the settlement looks like a lot of money the costs of lifetime care are enormous and even the amount involved will only go so far in helping the family. Money though is only a form of compensation, what has been taken from the victim cannot be recovered. I would like to think further action will be taken to maybe demonstrate there is a sense of justice in the game and wider society.

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Posted By: Tyke
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2023 at 10:27
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

It was in the 2017-18 season, and the discipline pages for that season are no longer up on the RFU  website.
Where litigation (criminal or civil) is pending, the RFU suspend disciplinary processes until the case has been decided. This is to prevent the RFU decision being seen to affect the outcome of the legal case.


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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2023 at 11:47
Sexist statement if ever I have seen one 

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Posted By: Crag Hopper
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2023 at 12:59
Sexist or not it's true!

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Posted By: All the Way
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2023 at 13:13
Originally posted by Crag Hopper Crag Hopper wrote:

Sexist or not it's true!
if you doubt your comment is sexist, maybe bounce it off your mother/wife/sister/daughter/female work colleagues....


Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2023 at 13:13
Originally posted by Crag Hopper Crag Hopper wrote:

Rugby is a sport unsuited to females. End of story.
If rugby is played in the manner illustrated by this incident it is unsuited for anyone regardless of their gender. Every club should study this case and if their own coaches and players reflect similar characteristics they should have no part of the game of rugby or indeed of any sport.

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Posted By: oneagainstthehead
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2023 at 13:15
Originally posted by Crag Hopper Crag Hopper wrote:

Sexist or not it's true!
Shame on you 


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Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2023 at 13:44
Originally posted by Crag Hopper Crag Hopper wrote:

Rugby is a sport unsuited to females. End of story.

I hope you have shared your opinion with your club's women's' team.


Posted By: Crag Hopper
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2023 at 14:02
AW. My wife and daughters agree with my opinion on this matter. 
Carrot. I reckon that the victim of that tackle will now agree with me too!!!



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Posted By: Bluesman11
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2023 at 14:36
Originally posted by Crag Hopper Crag Hopper wrote:

AW. My wife and daughters agree with my opinion on this matter. 
Carrot. I reckon that the victim of that tackle will now agree with me too!!!


Ah if your wife and daughters agree with you, it can’t be sexist. I highly doubt the victim of the tackle will agree with you, in fact she’s been quoted as apportioning none of the blame to rugby as a sport, but wholly on the defendant. Utter drivel 


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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2023 at 16:32
Originally posted by Crag Hopper Crag Hopper wrote:

Rugby is a sport unsuited to females. End of story.

Had the pleasure of watching the England Roses at Castle Park twice, both games were right up there for me. Great entertainment, great skill sets and great athletes.

I don't agree with your comments.


Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2023 at 16:34
Rugby is sport unsuited to the vast majority of male's!

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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2023 at 11:37
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/i-was-paralysed-on-the-rugby-pitch-but-im-happy-that-my-daughter-still-plays-3xpp29w6h" rel="nofollow - I was paralysed on the rugby pitch but I’m happy that my daughter still plays | News | The Sunday Times (thetimes.co.uk)



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Posted By: Gopher72
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2023 at 12:34
I'm just off down to the rugby club to watch Launceston Ladies v Camborne. Launceston are doing well this season and a credit to ladies rugby and the club.
keep going!


Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2023 at 14:18
I've deleted/hidden various comments which were either inflammatory or off topic. 

We seemed to have veered from the particular case - which has debatable interests around the safety of the sport to the whole issue of the suitability of women's right to play Rugby, which they have the perfect right to do and enjoy. 

If we can't keep on topic I'll be locking it again. 

Thank you. 


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Posted By: Jester10
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2023 at 14:32
Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

I've deleted/hidden various comments which were either inflammatory or off topic. 

We seemed to have veered from the particular case - which has debatable interests around the safety of the sport to the whole issue of the suitability of women's right to play Rugby, which they have the perfect right to do and enjoy. 

If we can't keep on topic I'll be locking it again. 

Thank you. 

But you've left the initial "inflammatory" comment that women shouldn't be playing rugby on the site? 


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Posted By: Crag Hopper
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2023 at 13:08
Of course women have the right to play rugby. No-one is denying that. I do however question that it is proper for females to indulge in a sport that is very physical, rough and has certainly an element of danger. That's the end as far as I'm concerned. Apologies Richard of I have caused you any upset.

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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2023 at 15:39
Sometimes shovels should be locked up to prevent people digging bigger holes for themselves.

Back on topic the burden of proof might be far higher in a criminal court but I would like to see it given a d**n good go in order to give this this woman the punishment she seemingly deserves.


Posted By: jimbojetset
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2023 at 16:41
Originally posted by Crag Hopper Crag Hopper wrote:

Of course women have the right to play rugby. No-one is denying that. I do however question that it is proper for females to indulge in a sport that is very physical, rough and has certainly an element of danger. That's the end as far as I'm concerned. Apologies Richard of I have caused you any upset.

 
As someone who was married to an A&E consultant who was also a LT.Col in Her Majesty's Armed Forces (Since retired). I'm assuming I should suggest to her that she should not have done her job given that her training and job was "physical and rough with an element of danger" and therefore "not proper". 

Two tours of Afghanistan, Op Telic One (that's the gulf war to the uninitiated) as part of the forward medical team for the 7th Armoured Brigade otherwise known as The Desert Rats , One Tour of Northern Ireland (Pre-Good Friday agreement), Bosnia and South Sudan with UN Peacekeeping. 

Sometimes when you have an opinion, it's best to keep it to yourself.


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2023 at 16:46
Originally posted by jimbojetset jimbojetset wrote:

Originally posted by Crag Hopper Crag Hopper wrote:

Of course women have the right to play rugby. No-one is denying that. I do however question that it is proper for females to indulge in a sport that is very physical, rough and has certainly an element of danger. That's the end as far as I'm concerned. Apologies Richard of I have caused you any upset.

 
As someone who was married to an A&E consultant who was also a LT.Col in Her Majesty's Armed Forces (Since retired). I'm assuming I should suggest to her that she should not have done her job given that her training and job was "physical and rough with an element of danger" and therefore "not proper". 

Two tours of Afghanistan, Op Telic One (that's the gulf war to the uninitiated) as part of the forward medical team for the 7th Armoured Brigade otherwise known as The Desert Rats , One Tour of Northern Ireland (Pre-Good Friday agreement), Bosnia and South Sudan with UN Peacekeeping. 

Sometimes when you have an opinion, it's best to keep it to yourself.
Would you say thankyou from me too your wife, for helping to keep this man safe.


Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2023 at 18:19
We're veering off again.... 

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Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2023 at 10:32
Good to know that Dani Czernuszka is still engaged with sport despite the injury inflicted upon her.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/disability-sport/66545298" rel="nofollow - Para-ice hockey: Dani Czernuszka-Watts finds 'normality' through sport after being paralysed in rugby tackle


Posted By: Pilier
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2023 at 12:11
i met her at a Rams lunch a few years ago, very courageous lady.



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