Round 14 Matches
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Topic: Round 14 Matches
Posted By: castleparknight
Subject: Round 14 Matches
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2024 at 13:19
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Hartpury vs Cambridge Caldy vs Cornish Pirates Ampthill vs London Scottish Doncaster vs Coventry Ealing Trailfiders vs Nottingham Bedford vs Bye ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2024 at 13:25
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My guesses: Hartpury 5 vs 1 Cambridge - A tough match for Cambridge Caldy 4 vs 1 Cornish Pirates - I think Caldy will squeeze a home win Ampthill 5 vs 2 London Scottish - this could be a big scoring game Doncaster 1 vs 5 Coventry - my heart says the Knights will pull this one out of the hat, my head says Cov are quality and should win it. So long as we keep the score line respectable, and avoid the nonsense of our last game against them, I will be content. Ealing Trailfiders 5 vs 0 Nottingham - much as I would love to see Nottingham peg Ealing back closer to the rest of us I suspect this won't be the case. Good luck all. ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: Old Gold
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2024 at 13:35
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Ampthill 5 - 2 Scottish Caldy 4 - 1 Cornish Pirates Doncaster 1 - 5 Coventry Ealing 5 - 0 Nottingham Hartpury 5 - 0 Cambridge ------------- One Club |
Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2024 at 14:05
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Ampthill 2 - 5 Scottish
Caldy 5 - 1 Cornish Pirates Doncaster 1 - 5 Coventry Ealing 5 - 0 Nottingham Hartpury 5 - 1 Cambridge And Bedford 2 - 5 Bristol
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Posted By: *Stalwart
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2024 at 17:32
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Ampthill 4 - 1 Scottish Caldy 1 - 4 Cornish Pirates Doncaster 4 - 1 Coventry Ealing 5 - 1 Nottingham Hartpury 4 - 0 Cambridge ------------- *Stalwart |
Posted By: All the Way
Date Posted: 29 Feb 2024 at 08:39
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Ampthill 5 - 2 Scottish Caldy 1 - 4 Cornish Pirates Doncaster 1 - 5 Coventry Ealing 5 - 0 Nottingham Hartpury 5 - 0 Cambridge |
Posted By: Donnyknightfan
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2024 at 07:56
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Predictions: Ampthill 5 - 2 London Scottish Caldy 1 - 5 Cornish Pirates Doncaster 4 - 1 Coventry - Cov should win, but I think Donny could do it at home. Ealing 5 - 0 Nottingham Hartpury 5 - 1 Cambridge ------------- Donny Knights - best team in Yorkshire |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2024 at 08:17
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7:45pm kick off Bristol coming to Blues Bristol Bears team to face Bedford Blues at Goldington Road on Friday night (7.45pm KO): 15. Noah Heward, 14. Siva Naulago, 13. Virimi Vakatawa, 12. Kalaveti Ravouvou, 11. Gabriel Ibitoye, 10. Callum Sheedy, 9. Kieran Marmion; 1. Yann Thomas, 2. Fred Davies, 3. Max Lahiff, 4. Ed Holmes, 5. Joe Batley, 6. Steven Luatua, 7. Fitz Harding (c), 8. Benjamin Grondona. System players: Tomas Gwilliam, Sam Grahamslaw, Steven Longwell, Jay Tyack, Jimmy Halliwell, Charlie Rice, Aaron Tull, Kofi Cripps, Magnus Bradbury, Sam Wolstenholme, Oscar Lennon, Sam Worsley, James Williams, Piers O’Conor, Deago Bailey, Jack Bates, Rich Lane. Bedford Blues starting XV: 15. Matt Worley, 14. Sean French, 13. Jamie Elliott, 12. Jordan Venter, 11. Dean Adamson, 10. Louis Grimoldby, 9. James Lennon; 1. Joey Conway, 2. James Fish (C), 3. Bryan O'Connor, 4. Robin Williams, 5. Alex Woolford, 6. Jac Arthur, 7. Kieran Curran, 8. Cameron King Bedford Blues Replacements: Jamie Jack, Isaac Bell, Ed Prowse, Jordan Onojaife, Emeka Atuanya, Luke Frost, Geordie Irvine, Reuben Logan, Alex Day, Will Maisey, Jake Garside, Will Glister, Michael Le Bourgeois, Pat Tapley, Ewan Baker |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2024 at 09:01
"System players" - really?!
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The Blues wrote:Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2024 at 09:55
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First Bedford game I've been to in a while. Looking forward to it. Whatever Brizzle call their subs is fine.
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2024 at 12:50
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Coventry Wilson, Hutler, Wand, Hitchprong, Martin; Pellegrini, Chudley; Trinder, Poole, Nicol; Tyas, Nkwocha; Ball, Kvesic, Nayalo. Replacements: Biggs, Chilvers, Nairau, Owen, Ryan, Venner, Mitchell, Bartlett. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2024 at 13:29
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Ealing Trailfinders to face Nottingham: 1 Will Goodrick-Clarke 2 Matt Cornish 3 Biyi Alo 4 Bobby De Wee 5 Barney Maddison 6 Rob Farrar 7 Richard Hardwick 8 Rayn Smid 9 Jordan Burns 10 Dan Lancaster 11 Nathan Earle 12 Billy Twelvetrees 13 Reuben Bird-Tulloch 14 Angus Kernohan 15 Cian Kelleher 16 Mike Willemse 17 Kyle Whyte 18 Jimmy Roots 19 Andrew Davidson 20 Will Montgomery 21 Dan HisHuckleberrys 22 Dan O’Brien 23 Jonah Holmes |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2024 at 13:31
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Predictions: Ampthill 1 - 4London Scottish - I think this is the first time I have picked Scottish in 4 years, but they have looked good recently. Caldy 4 - 1 Cornish Pirates - Caldy always tough at home. Doncaster 1 - 4 Coventry - Donny back room in flux Ealing 5 - 0 Nottingham - Good squad Hartpury 5 - 1 Cambridge - Cambridge not looking great
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Posted By: Bluesman11
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2024 at 15:00
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Nottingham seem to have more Saints players in their starting XV than Bedford do recently. I think they have 3 this weekend, Sylvester has made a fair few blues appearances the last couple of seasons (and looked impressive) but now seems to be turning out for Nottingham. ------------- Championship Prediction League Winner 11/12 |
Posted By: greenpower
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2024 at 15:35
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hartpury 5 0 cambridge amthill 4 1 scottish caldy 1 4 pirates doncaster 1 4 coventry ealing 5 0 nottingham |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2024 at 16:41
Championship clubs dancing to the PRL tune. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2024 at 17:01
I count 4 saints lads on the blues bench. Garside, Baker, Logan and Glister. Might be more but noticed those ones.
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Posted By: Bluesman11
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2024 at 18:02
We have a squad of 30 for the friendly so there’s a few more this week. If we had 23 out, I think only Ed Prowse and a hooker would feature to cover a couple of front row injuries ------------- Championship Prediction League Winner 11/12 |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2024 at 20:34
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HT Blues 12-35 Bristol Blues have played well and the score really doesn’t reflect the game. Bristol have been more clinical with half of the opportunities on a muddy and wet night.
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2024 at 20:39
I think there are 8 Saints today for the 2nd half team. The squad is a lot better this year without a few squad fillers who were ND1 standard at best, so we haven’t needed a many of the Saints youngsters.
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Posted By: Nat1
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2024 at 21:03
With no Nat 1 rugby his week I thought I'd follow the Champ games and I see Cambridge are currently 42-5 down at Hartpury, conceding at a rate of a point a minute  I don't know much about the Champ, but is the step up from Nat 1 that big for most clubs?
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2024 at 21:04
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Att 3017 Not bad considering it’s non stop rain.
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2024 at 21:11
Pretty much, but there are opportunities to develop and maybe get the odd W ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2024 at 21:28
| FT blues 33-54 Bristol |
Posted By: Abbotsman
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2024 at 21:31
| FT Hartpury 61 - 10 Cambridge |
Posted By: Nat1
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2024 at 21:40
Thanks, and yes it seems that way as Cambridge look to have had a proper hiding this evening conceding 9 tries, and against a fellow semi-pro rather than full-time team (Hartpury certainly use to be semi-pro anyway).
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Posted By: Bluesman11
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2024 at 21:45
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Unrelated question, but will Cambridge be showing the England Ireland game somewhere after the Bedford game next Saturday? ------------- Championship Prediction League Winner 11/12 |
Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2024 at 22:39
This is a really good summary. 2nd half was more even but Bristol's attack was always sharper
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2024 at 23:18
barring the Pope's conversion to Islam between now and then, yes...
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2024 at 23:55
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Squad size and injuries have been problems for Cambridge, along with budget. We get Jamie Benson back from the Blues next week, and hopefully
Joe Tarrant will have recovered from his shoulder injury soon. Both of
whom will shore up the back line. However, Mat Hema is out for the season, and we are missing his running and tackling. Our big problems seem to be turning possession into points, and then stopping the opposition scoring. We struggle to break down defences, so we go through phases getting nowhere, then turn over possession and are suddenly thirty metres downfield defending like crazy. I know Ritchie has eyes on some new recruits for next season, if we can afford them. As to showing the International after the Blues match - I assume we will. We usually have it on the screens in all the bars. After all, we want you to stay and drink the beer. It is our secret plan for affording new centres for next year. And don't forget, it is a double header, with the ladies playing first. The Exiles are also at home on the other pitch. Buy your tickets - and especially parking online. Parking is limited. Nearly half have gone already. We are expecting the biggest crowd of the year, ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Clive Norling
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 11:08
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[/QUOTE] Our big problems seem to be turning possession into points, and then stopping the opposition scoring. We struggle to break down defences, so we go through phases getting nowhere, then turn over possession and are suddenly thirty metres downfield defending like crazy. [/QUOTE] And in that one sentence you pose the problem that faces the (whenever it next happens) promoted team from The Championship into The Premiership ... as you go up the leagues one at a time, the step up just gets greater and greater ... The more experienced team has a better defence and tend to be more clinical in attack (and when you throw in part time players against full time players, it just increases the task massively) .... |
Posted By: Nat1
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 13:26
Our big problems seem to be turning possession into points, and then stopping the opposition scoring. We struggle to break down defences, so we go through phases getting nowhere, then turn over possession and are suddenly thirty metres downfield defending like crazy. [/QUOTE] And in that one sentence you pose the problem that faces the (whenever it next happens) promoted team from The Championship into The Premiership ... as you go up the leagues one at a time, the step up just gets greater and greater ... The more experienced team has a better defence and tend to be more clinical in attack (and when you throw in part time players against full time players, it just increases the task massively) ....[/QUOTE] I think you are right, and it's incredible that any of the semi pro Champ teams manage to turn over the fully pro teams from time to time, fair play to them. On that note, I know you are a Rams supporter and wondered if Rams plan to go fully pro if they beat Chinnor to promotion this year, or if/when they take part in Prem 2 when it starts the season after?
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Posted By: Clive Norling
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 15:07
And in that one sentence you pose the problem that faces the (whenever it next happens) promoted team from The Championship into The Premiership ... as you go up the leagues one at a time, the step up just gets greater and greater ... The more experienced team has a better defence and tend to be more clinical in attack (and when you throw in part time players against full time players, it just increases the task massively) ....[/QUOTE] I think you are right, and it's incredible that any of the semi pro Champ teams manage to turn over the fully pro teams from time to time, fair play to them. On that note, I know you are a Rams supporter and wondered if Rams plan to go fully pro if they beat Chinnor to promotion this year, or if/when they take part in Prem 2 when it starts the season after? [/QUOTE] National 1 promotion is Chinnor's to lose (with respect to Cambridge, as it was ours to lose last season and we did  ) ... all we can do is keep the pressure on them but if they win their last 6 games with 5 point wins, it doesn't matter what we do, they'll go up and deservedly so (as was the case with Cambridge last year) ...Prem 2? Well it's totally up in the air at the moment BUT what we have done is put in place off the field many things but the 2 biggest are, broadcast quality floodlights and a 400 seat stand, which if necessary, we could easily replicate another stand on the opposite side of the pitch ... we could NOT go fully professional with players unless there was subsistence from the RFU but our CEO Gary Reynolds along with his son Seb Reynolds (DoR) and the rest of the board are very ambitious but at the same time being able to balance the finances between income and expenditure (contrary to what some people say) we do NOT pay huge money to our players (and as a previously high income sponsor, I should know) ... We have a squad of 40-50 players who play 1st & 2nd team rugby and with the demise of LI, this season we've had NO LOAN players what so ever, unlike a number of our rivals .... |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 15:13
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Back to Champ Round 14? HT Donny 0-10 Cov ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 15:17
One might say that this is the way to play rugby, however the concept of a rugby club is lost at Levels 1 & 2 - with a couple of notable Championship exceptions. Foreign players kick the ladder away from aspiring club players, loan players kick it further down the road. Or is it that I am a dinosaur seeking to watch rugby in it's pureist form? ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: maire23
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 15:17
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HT at Vallis Way- Ealing 17 Notts 19! Absolutely stunned (but as a Notts fan I’m happy)
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 15:33
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Donny 0-13 Cov 45 mins ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 15:36
| Ealing 24 (BP) - Nottingham 19 - 44' - Ealing pt, Nottingham yc. Nottingham restarts great today. |
Posted By: maire23
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 15:43
| Ealing 24 Notts 26 |
Posted By: Geoff DC
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 15:46
| Caldy 0 Pirates 19 - HT |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 15:46
This game is boiling down to Ealing power vs. Nottingham pace. Very entertaining
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 15:49
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Penalty try and YC. Donny 0-20 Cov 60 mins ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 15:56
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Donny 7-20 Cov 66 mins ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 15:58
| Ealing 45 (BP) - Nottingham 26 (BP) 66' - Ealing have started to play more expanisively, and really opened the score in the last 10. |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 16:07
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Donny 12-20 Cov 78 mins Cov trying to hold on with 14 men following a YC to Hutler on 75. Oops Now 12-25 80 mins ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 16:07
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Correction 12-27 ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 16:10
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And that's FT. 2T-3T 0-4 ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 16:12
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Amps 35-12 LS FT Caldy 7-19 CP ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: knightandday
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 16:16
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Cov should have been out of sight before half time. ------------- Winning isn't everything, it just makes the beer taste better |
Posted By: oneagainstthehead
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 16:17
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Full time at Vallis Way Ealing 52(BP) - 26(BP) Nottingham Ealing largely cut out the silky mistakes that plagued their first half. ------------- Speak softly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 16:40
Story of their season. (Apart from one particular game  ).------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 16:40
Silky mistakes are the best ones. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 16:42
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Caldy 7-32 CP. Just about finished, so I think we can say 0-5, and Pirates go second. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 16:43
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Typical! 14-32 now, but no effect on points tallies.
FT ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 18:03
You'll be expecting the Scotland team to be full of Scotsmen next rather than McBoks lol
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Posted By: Baggins
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 18:10
Odd Game, turned up 8 mins late due to road works and broken down truck on the M1  Ampthill 12 nil down and crowd subdued. Then saw the As score 5 converted tries without reply and utterly dominate the second half after going in 14:12 up. Must have been an odd sort of match for those who were there from the start, and for London Scottish. a couple of cracking tries by As, no idea what the LS ones were like  Watching these days they all look like kids, rosy cheeks, silly haircuts  Where did all the time disappear too? ------------- Propping up the board |
Posted By: Clive Norling
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 21:34
Nothing wrong with being a dinosaur but as you go up the leagues UNFORTUNATELY it is harder to be a "rugby club" and survive at the rarefied level ... I love National 1 because it's how rugby probably was before professionalism kicked in, having spent 21 years officiating Premiership, I know as a purist what I prefer watching ... Our 2nd team that played Richmond 2nd's last Saturday had a total of 662 1st team appearances between the 20 players and we're proud of the fact that players come to us to play for a "rugby club" ... For obvious reasons, I have followed Cambridge results this season with great interest, the challenge of moving from Level 3 to Level 2 is tough (but I knew that already but it's easier than going from Level 2 to Level 1!) |
Posted By: Rabbie Burns
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 21:39
Or an English team full of Englishmen (latest non English Finn Smith, born in Scotland to Scottish parents moved to Englandshire). Won’t mention Vinopolas ------------- So many Christians not enough Lions |
Posted By: SKalpy
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 22:30
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Rabbie Talk about the pot calling the kettle black See you soon mate
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Posted By: SKalpy
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 22:39
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Clive, That is spot on. Good luck for the remainder of your games, and for selfish reason I hope to see you next season.
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 23:12
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You lot still babbling on the Champ Round 14 thread? Jeez. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2024 at 07:46
That's a great way of explaining the difference in the first and second halves at Ealing. To add a bit more to it, I was very pleased that Ealing remembered how to tackle. In the first half, Nottingham made a huge number of meters (or yards) due to missed tackles, often straight through the middle. Couple that with a few bonehead mistakes, Nottingham bravely winning back several restarts, and especially a couple of aimless chips over the top that resulted in the mark being called, and Nottingham were very deservedly in front at the break. After the half, I didn't see any more missed tackles, the passing was much crisper, Ealing won a lot more of their restarts, kicked the ball away less, and attacked with ball in hand more to pressure Nottingham. I'm doubly pleased that they managed this with their 3rd choice fly half and scrum half due to injuries, which also necessitated a call up for one of the academy lads, who got his debut. A final point on this one; Ealing's marketing department did a good job with this one, as they made it a double header with the women's match, created some fun events, and got a good (for Ealing) crowd of about 1600 out, which was very predominantly home fans.
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2024 at 09:41
According to Wiki Finn Smith was born in Warwick, is Wiki wrong? And you did mention the Vunipolas, both arrived in Britain as children when dad signed for pontypool I believe in 98, in my opinion a massive difference for them choosing to represent one of the British countries. What I don't like is the players that do the 3 year residency to play, that is the rule I personally don't like, it should be longer, maybe 10 years.
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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2024 at 10:53
| Mike Catt, Dylan Hartley and Thomas Waldrom spring to mind as recent ish England players from abroad and of course that famous Welshman George North was born in Norfolk, does it really matter? |
Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2024 at 11:20
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[QUOTE=tigerburnie]Mike Catt, Dylan Hartley and Thomas Waldrom spring to mind as recent ish England players from abroad and of course that famous Welshman George North was born in Norfolk, does it really matter?[/QUOTE You are correct North was born in Norfolk, but moved to Anglesey aged two, brought up a welshman. I think using North is a poor example.now Duhan van der Merwe is an example of what is wrong with the current residency rules. He arrived in Edinburgh 2017.
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Posted By: Exiled_Scots
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2024 at 13:17
I do believe the rules on residency have been changed by World Rugby to now being a 5 year qualifying period. ------------- Watch Out - The Scottish Phoenix Club is on the Up!! Seven down one to go |
Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2024 at 13:36
Better but not enough for me to stop the international cap mercenaries
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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2024 at 13:39
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Selection could indeed be a difficult choice for individuals, now the game is professional, no doubt the money to be had is a big influence. I was born in England and raised there, but my Dad was a displaced person at the end of World War2 from a country that was "given" to the USSR by the allies(who gave them such right?) My Mums roots go back to Anglo Saxon Royalty, mixed in with some Normans, a Welsh grannie who was Owain Glendower's daughter and another grannie was the daughter of a Scottish King. I have also lived in Paris, Amsterdam, Luxembourg and for the past 20 years Scotland So England, France, Germany, Sweden, Denmark, Wales and Scotland, who do I choose? Now where are my boots
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Posted By: Exiled_Scots
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2024 at 17:14
Yes all international sides use these residency rules to their own advantage when it suits them. You only have to look when England capped Alex Hepburn on residency grounds who was born in Australia with no connections to England, only for him to change to Scotland. At least Alex’s father was born in Scotland. ------------- Watch Out - The Scottish Phoenix Club is on the Up!! Seven down one to go |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2024 at 19:40
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I believe Smith was indeed born in Warwick. Whether or not he was, he played his early rugby for Shipston on Stour at least.
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Posted By: cheshire exile
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2024 at 21:18
| And here was I looking for comments on round 14, such as those from the majority of predictors who forecast a win for Caldy…. |