Promotion to the prem
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Topic: Promotion to the prem
Posted By: KnightsBoy
Subject: Promotion to the prem
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2024 at 13:18
| https://www.drfc.co.uk/press-statement-doncaster-knights-rfu-the-premiership/%20" rel="nofollow - https://www.drfc.co.uk/press-statement-doncaster-knights-rfu-the-premiership/ |
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Posted By: WILD BOAR 1
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2024 at 13:24
| Can someone explain why Ealing did not apply? |
Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2024 at 13:39
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They (Ealing) are making improvements to their grounds but I am unsure if other elements such as access "may" be an issue (or they plan on challenging these ridiculous standards in court). Either way if Ealing win the league this season (which is highly likely) I hope they get to have their paly off opportunity and win it on the day. ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: WILD BOAR 1
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2024 at 13:47
| Doncaster Knights was the only Championship club to apply to for a MSC audit and is therefore the only club eligible for promotion. |
Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2024 at 15:07
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As I said roughly this time last year I fail to see what Ealing's future plans are. At worst they could have nominated an alternative venue and tried to get into the Premiership before Wasps and/or London Irish are revised and crowd the market. At the moment it just seems to be throwing money down a plug hole. ------------- Moderator http://www.leaguerugby.co.uk" rel="nofollow - National League Rugby Message Boards Remember Wakefield RFC |
Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2024 at 15:14
| ..............or maybe they like winning the Championship rather than getting humped every week by the Premiership sides, this theory has been discussed by fans of Newcastle Falcons. |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2024 at 15:40
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Which will happen first, sustainable hot fusion outside a star, cold fusion, a quantum computer factoring a 2048-bit bi-prime, detection of intelligent life in the universe, or Wasps being revived. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2024 at 00:12
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We used to say the Premiership was a cartel and they were ringfencing. Now it looks like Ealing are joining the club and adding a 2nd layer to help protect the Premiership by spending a fortune to be the first line of defence! I am also surprised Coventry didn't apply, given what appeared to be a squad to challenge the top.
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2024 at 08:53
I really don't think anyone at Cov really thought there was a chance of winning the league this year. Just being realistic. No point applying. ------------- Our Club |
The Blues wrote:Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2024 at 09:11
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Similarly, Ealing have been turned down twice, and have not substantially improved the ground. They may simply think that there is no point applying until they get planning permission for a ground that meets the requirements. Which means getting planning permission for more stands. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2024 at 12:31
Which is what Cov have said they've been working on. Covid put that process back somewhat though. The West and North Stand plans have been showcased a few times, but I have no idea what the current status is - if indeed there is still a 'plan'. About the only noticeable change this season has been the extension of the fancy marquee at the south end, and moving the Elephant and Castle 'pub' from there to the west side. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2024 at 13:51
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Question for Coventry: Is the club positive that when they are ready to make the push, will they pass the audit? Surely if they don’t know the answer, would it not make sense to do the audit, and if anything is found lacking work on those areas so they are ready when their time arises…which I personally feel is something the club is capable of doing ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: *Stalwart
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2024 at 16:17
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I don't think promotion to the financial basket case that is The Premiership is worth the effort and expense required at the moment. ------------- *Stalwart |
Posted By: Whistle watcher
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2024 at 16:49
I'm not sure we're ready for that yet. Obviously we always aspire to win the league, as we all do, but I'm not sure (as Kimbo says) that we expect to win it this year. John Sharp is a smart cookie and has a good team behind him. We lost a lot of core players at the end of last season and to have rebuilt in the way we have and to be where we are now is a tribute to the hard work and some shrewd squad building that has been put in by the coaching staff and the players.
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Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2024 at 16:55
I can not understand your thought process that Ealing Trailfinders are some how in league with the Premiership to keep others out . When a club is non compliant they are simply discounted and any team below skips over them . Surely you know this . ------------- Ambition should be made of sterner stuff. |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2024 at 17:24
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Question surely is how many current Premiership owners would jump ship it they had the opportunity? Given a quiet room to consider their options, I suspect all. But there's no way out, so the band plays on.....
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2024 at 17:36
Skips over them? Only the top-finishing side has the opportunity to contest the one available Prem place, so surely this means the Ealing are blocking the other sides below them. Or do I misunderstand your statement? ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2024 at 20:48
Otherwise Doncaster would be guaranteed a playoff which isn’t the case. Why are Ealing spending over £6m a year to guarantee they aren’t relegated from the Championship. They have everything they need to have a go at the Premiership, if they don’t want it, perhaps be happy mid table. I would have thought a number of players signed for Ealing partly for the money but also in the hope of the Premiership opportunity.
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Posted By: Rob C
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2024 at 10:30
We have something special going on at Butts Park - hopefully the Premiership, in its current form, isn't even on the radar... 2nd place would be the ideal target.
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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2024 at 13:27
Careful with the "something special" line. It's reminiscent of the endless press releases issued by The Cheats as they hoovered up more and more players through cheating the salary cap!
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Posted By: titans.chris
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2024 at 18:44
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Does anyone know the criteria needed to bet met? Capacity etc? Great to see Donny have been accepted - a really good club and ground. It would be brilliant to see another Yorkshire team give it a go up there. If they did gain promotion, I just hope they don't kill themselves financially doing it. It is great for the sport in Yorkshire which seems to be back on the up. Slowly but surely. |
Posted By: RobC
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2024 at 12:05
I'm guessing by 'The Cheats' you mean Saracens? They're not everyone's cup of tea, I know - I happen to like watching them and they certainly had 'something special' going on yesterday... as did Cov
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2024 at 12:17
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'The cheats' could be levelled at several Prem sides over the years. Just different styles and degrees of. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: *Stalwart
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2024 at 13:28
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The vilification of Saracens is so over the top. They messed up, they took their punishment and it's time to move on. They were brilliant against Quins. ------------- *Stalwart |
Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2024 at 13:34
| Did the over spending by Saracens encourage other clubs to over spend, did they contribute to the demise of any of the clubs thereafter? Speculation I know, but some have posted thus in the past. |
Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2024 at 13:50
Each to their own but they cheated for seven years and those who orchestrated the cheating are still in place so until they move on I don't see why anybody else should. And of course they were brilliant against Quins. They are a side built on years of cheating!
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Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2024 at 16:03
Yes, but the RFU bent over backwards to help them by shortening the Championship season to get them back as quickly as possible
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Posted By: RobC
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2024 at 16:51
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Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2024 at 18:55
I don't think Worcester, wasps, Irish or Jersey went bust through overspending. Their businesses simply failed.
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Posted By: *Stalwart
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2024 at 19:49
They spent money they didn't have. ------------- *Stalwart |
Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2024 at 08:11
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Posted By: workerbee
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2024 at 15:42
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The deadline approaches this week to agree to Prem 2 criteria and signify your club is prepared to be part of the New RFU set up. Will all the Championship Clubs refuse? Or will some quietly agree in principle? Will the RFU restructure the league with aspirational clubs from Nat 1 and accept Wasps, Worcester and Irish back in as Franchise clubs? The next few weeks are going to be interesting for the future of level 2 Rugby.
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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2024 at 13:09
Probably- in both cases ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2024 at 13:50
| “both cases?” - w-b asks 3 questions & makes a further observation. I agree it will be interesting. I’d be surprised if we hear anything before the w/e as any proposals would need to be ratified. Having said that, a leak in Sunday’s ‘Rugby Paper’ might be how many of us find out… |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2024 at 16:18
I took the Championship clubs question(s) as 1 as it will either be one or the other. To clarify my answer I suspect 1 or 2 of the Championship sides will break ranks secretly and the RFU will parachute in at least 2 of the failed ex-Premiership sides and invite a few N1 sides in to make up the numbers. ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: workerbee
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2024 at 21:35
| Will some of the current Championship clubs be relegated because they do not have the necessary criteria. |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2024 at 22:14
That would give credence to the thought that Premiership and Premiership 2 are no longer part of the core rugby family that we have all grown up with  ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2024 at 22:48
If it comes true. They are no longer rugby clubs, but soulless franchises.
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Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2024 at 02:54
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Come on now and sing this song We make it up as we go along We’re the the men in suits and we do what we like So if you don’t like it you can take a hike It’s not good enough to win every game You’ve got to have an established name Cos if the club name sounds too common We’ll be placing you right at the bottom So no use trying to win the crown Cos if your names no good you’re going down. Try as hard as you like to get out the trap Cos from where I’m standing it’s C rap. Come on now let’s sing this song Cos we make it up as we go along. ------------- As one door closes…….another one slams in your face. |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2024 at 07:35
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...ahh, but will there be a premiership at all soon? Covid loans coming due, and government losing patience. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-13244757/amp/Government-Premiership-rugby-150million-Covid-19-loans.html" rel="nofollow - www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-13244757/amp/Government-Premiership-rugby-150million-Covid-19-loans.html
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Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2024 at 11:49
I don't believe the governments position is unreasonable. The clubs can't increase the salary cap whilst at the same time pleading poverty. ------------- Moderator http://www.leaguerugby.co.uk" rel="nofollow - National League Rugby Message Boards Remember Wakefield RFC |
Posted By: Breakdown
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2024 at 12:00
The key thing the government wants is squad size reduction in the Premiership. That was a central recommendation from the "commissioners" they appointed to advise the RFU/PRL on financial and governance reform. But if that is implemented, which seems very likely, it will encourage Premiership sides to strike deals with Championship sides to take on loan players who don't make their cut. Slippery slope if that happens. ------------- Broken down. Beyond repair. |
Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2024 at 12:43
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The Championship Clubs Committee met today to hear an update from their Executive on progress made in discussions about the future of Tier 2 of English rugby. While there was at one point in the recent history of this crucial process a deadline of March 31st for the selection of clubs for a second tier, that deadline was scrapped some time ago and there are currently a series of important and intensive discussions going on around the league, which will be launched for the 2025/26 season. Those discussions between the CCC, the RFU and, where relevant, Premiership Rugby Ltd, cover all the basic points needed to establish a new Tier 2 for the good of the English game and for the security and planning necessary to the current Championship clubs. There is no deadline for these discussions, although clearly it is important that agreement is reached as quickly as possible so that planning for both the new Tier 2 league and for the 2024/25 season can begin. Solid progress has been made on the various issues being discussed. The parties involved believe that an agreement is within reach, although some very important topics still need to be brought to a satisfactory conclusion for all the parties. These are vital discussions and are taking place in an intensive, progressive and co-operative atmosphere. No doubt, when outstanding issues are resolved, a public statement will be made, but in the meantime, please be assured that the future of Championship clubs and the interests of those who aspire to join the second tier of our game are being given the priority they deserve by all of us involved.
Simon Halliday, Chairman, Championship Clubs Committee. |
Posted By: GreenThrough&Through
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2024 at 13:36
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It would be interesting to know which clubs are formally asking for an extension to the Covid repayment timelines. Someone like Newcastle then i can sort of understand. They've been cost cost cutting for the last 18 months and you get the feeling they are almost living hand to mouth. If, however, there is a club who have spent large sums on recruitment over the 12 months (Bath for example signing Finn Russell) then they should be told "tough, pay what you owe". It's amusing that PRL are stating the clubs have benefited the economy to the tune of £80 million in tax yet when Wasps, Worcester and Irish all went to the wall, HMRC were the largest creditor. Im pretty sure if you looked at the books of the remaining clubs, HMRC would be top of the list of outstanding bills.
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Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2024 at 14:47
Isn't this where the Academy structure should step up to fill any shortfall and give game time to up and coming players? ------------- Moderator http://www.leaguerugby.co.uk" rel="nofollow - National League Rugby Message Boards Remember Wakefield RFC |
Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2024 at 15:43
As I understand it the RFU want each Club to have a number of senior players and a number of Academy players - numbers to be agreed. The aim is to get as many players as possible playing every week. I think the relationship between Premiership teams and Tier 2 teams and how players might step up to fill gaps is one of the outstanding matters. Conor O'Shea is very clear that young players must play and not just train. George Makepeace-Cubitt is a prime example.
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Posted By: cheshire exile
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2024 at 17:45
| Who??? |
Posted By: Nat1
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2024 at 18:43
https://www.ncarugby.com/interviews/george-makepeace-cubitt-exclusive-you-dont-expect-it-when-youre-not-linked-with-a-premiership-team/" rel="nofollow - https://www.ncarugby.com/interviews/george-makepeace-cubitt-exclusive-you-dont-expect-it-when-youre-not-linked-with-a-premiership-team/
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2024 at 19:00
How many players do you need to run a Premiership club?6 front row minimum to meet match day requirements. Minimum 2 for the remainder so 14 x 2 + 6 = 34 - reasonable? ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2024 at 19:48
Yes but you will have to factor in injuries and other unavailability, so that's where I see the Academy players being drawn into the squad. ------------- Moderator http://www.leaguerugby.co.uk" rel="nofollow - National League Rugby Message Boards Remember Wakefield RFC |
Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2024 at 20:32
| Senior academy players are currently playing in the National leagues and Championship, very few are ready for Premiership rugby and even fewer will get a pro contract. Leicester Tigers currently have 38 senior squad members and 30 senior academy players, I think only one of those current academy players has played in the league, quite a few have been in squads for the Premiership Cup, most are playing in the National leagues and Championship. Of the academy lads O. Chessum, D. Cole, J. Hayes, G. Martin, Jv Poortvleit, T. Reffell, H. Simmons, F. Steward, H. Wells, J. Whitcombe and B. Youngs now currently have a pro contract. Pretty sure all of those also played for Championship or National league clubs. |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2024 at 21:39
Fair play to CCC for getting an update out b4 Easter. It doesn’t say much, but I wouldn’t blame them for that. Sad that it sounds as if this could roll on over summer & maybe into next season - who knows? This clarity was due by Dec ‘23, we were told in early Oct after the demise of the Reds, who announced they’d ceased trading 6 months ago today, but here we are going into April & none the wiser. What a g’an on, as my Granny used to say…
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2024 at 21:55
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It is simply a holding statement - but it does sound like the worst fears will not come to pass. Or maybe not. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Donnyknightfan
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2024 at 08:08
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As a Donny supporter, I was pleased to see that Castle Park meets the criteria - it’s a fantastic ground and if it’s good enough to host England under 19s/20s and Women’s internationals then it was obviously good enough for Premiership Rugby. However, would I want the Knights to go up with the way things are at the moment?. No. The chasm between the two leagues is vast and the financial inequality that the promoted team faces when they get up there makes it virtually impossible to compete unless you start throwing stupid money around speculatively, and we’ve seen how that ends up. I wouldn’t want to kill the club off just for the sake of a couple of unsuccessful seasons in the Premiership. Roth had two goes at it and it very nearly pushed them out of existence - it’s just not worth it. Until the promoted side gets an equal share of the money as soon as they get up and also get more time to recruit between seasons going up will be a poisoned chalice. You’re basically relegated before you start. ------------- Donny Knights - best team in Yorkshire |
Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2024 at 09:41
You could make a similar argument for or against promotion from any of the National leagues too, the step up between Nat 1 and the Championship also seems huge as Cambridge are struggling for points and Leicester Lions are not exactly finding point easy to come by since their promotion into Nat 1, we don't want to kill competition and desire to succeed do we?
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Posted By: *Stalwart
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2024 at 10:13
Completely agree with this. Castle Park is a cracking stadium. Having said that Ealing are a different kettle of fish. There seems to be a bottomless pit of money there and they showed in the Prem Cup that they are capable of competing against the big boys. If they played Newcastle now, over two legs, they'd probably beat them. The inequality is compounded by the ridiculous parachute payment which allows a team relegated from the Prem to keep the majority of their Prem squad when they embark on the Championship season. ------------- *Stalwart |
Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2024 at 10:36
It kind of explains why when Exeter upset the apple cart and stopped Bristol immediately jumping back up and condemned them to years in the Championship, that when Bristol finally did get back up, they were all in favour of pulling up the drawbridge. It is a protectionist system, we all know that. But unless the Championship winner gets blocked on MSC and sues over it, then nothing will happen.
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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2024 at 13:13
Agree with this although I would suggest the "bottomless pit of money" at Ealing is only a short-term thing. Much like at any of the existing Premiership clubs at the moment.
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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2024 at 14:34
I suspect the 'ridiculous parachute payment' is there to protect payments to Premiership players who are usually on contracts of greater than 1 year length. Without these the relegated club would likely go bankrupt. ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: *Stalwart
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2024 at 19:37
At The Pirates we have only agreed one year contracts for a few seasons now - because there is no certainty about what the next season will look like. Prem clubs should suck this up like the rest of us have to. ------------- *Stalwart |
Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2024 at 09:12
Is it not the top finishing compliant side. I believe it is now 5,000 seats and working towards ( a clear plan ) 10,000. Then you get the chance to play home and away against the bottom team of the Premiership. Where I believe the team from the Championship will be on the wrong side of the appointed ref. I say this because I have seen it several times. The two that stick out are when Ealing played Bristol at Ashton Gate and should have been awarded a penalty in front of the post to win the game but the the ref just kept resetting until finally Bristol cleared their lines . The second one is Ealing at home to London Irish where a Irish centre clearly knocks on but the other centre catches the ball and scores under the posts.....to win the game. The Irish example is on YouTube. The Bristol travesty use to be and may well be there still. Sour grapes maybe .  ------------- Ambition should be made of sterner stuff. |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2024 at 09:54
I also am reminded of the Ealing playoff match against Leeds where a five meter scrum was rumbling towards the line and the ref ordered Ealing to use it. Never seen that before or since, and it was material to the final score on the home and away aggregate.
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2024 at 10:27
So yes. What I said then, semantics aside. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2024 at 13:04
My understanding of the Wasps Phoenix was they would be given 3 years to come up with a compliant stadium. That is the reasonable approach that should be offered to all Premiership promoted teams together with a 2 years relegation moratorium. I remember some Premiership clubs being non-compliant when the leagues turned Professional. Why dig into a mountain of debt only to slip back into the Championship. Or is that being too reasonable? I also believe we should follow the French example and carry on during the 6 Nations and increase the Premiership to 14 teams or will that put pressure on the salary cap and RFU funding? As to non-EQP players and those playing abroad.......
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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2024 at 16:00
Not sure Bath is compliant even now ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Bluesman11
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2024 at 18:57
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Where has the idea of the top compliant side being eligible for the playoff come from? Almost certain that is nonsense. If true, it means Doncaster will have a promotion playoff regardless of where they finish. I think Ealing fans thinking the referees have conspired against them in the playoff games is a good example of confirmation bias in practice… ------------- Championship Prediction League Winner 11/12 |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2024 at 19:03
Quite (I'd overlooked his ref to 'top compliant' and in my mind read it as 'compliant, top', which is the actual requirement as tou say, so, as you were). ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2024 at 19:07
They aren't
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2024 at 19:47
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(Avoiding overlong quotes). What does the Rec fail on then? I have no idea. It's not capacity as it holds 4,500 in excess of the current requirement. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Redted
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2024 at 09:03
Not sure but possibly the use of the uncovered temporary stand.
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2024 at 09:20
Cover is irrelevant. Other clubs have used temporary stands too, surely? ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: workerbee
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2024 at 10:22
| One of the requirements in the Championship is that the perimeter fencing needs to be 5 metres from the edge of the pitch including dead ball areas which is clearly not the case with Bath. |
Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2024 at 11:42
Good job there is no relegation then!
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2024 at 12:00
Oh well, Cov are relegated then... ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2024 at 12:41
I believe it is the 'temporary' stand that has been there for years - it should have been replaced with a permanent stand a long time ago, however I believe there are planning problems ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2024 at 15:45
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How about a 22 dead ball area. Yesterday's England Wales Women's 6 Nations was a joke. Ashton Gate - about 10m ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2024 at 16:27
Yes, the city don't want to lose their main cricket ground!
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2024 at 16:31
| I’m pretty sure the Premiership clubs that did not meet the criteria just had to pay annual fines. |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2024 at 02:06
Sounds like a plan ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: JAB87
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2024 at 06:58
| If a Championship club is promoted to the Premiership (at some point in the future), would they lose some of their income from TV etc. to CVC, despite not receiving any of the original “investment” ? |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2024 at 07:57
TBC
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