Revolt in the North

WEvans wrote: Monkey Boy wrote: Camquin wrote: I agree no club can make it from the lower leagues to National 1 except:   Ampthill Midlands 3 East (South) champions: 2006–07 Bishop Stortford London Division 2 North champions: 2002–03 Caldy Euromanx South Lancs/Cheshire 1 champions: 2002–03  Cambridge London Division Two North playoff winners  2003-4 Chinnor South West Division 2 East champions: 2000–01 Cinderford South  West Division 2 West champions 1998–99 DMP North East 1 champions: 1998–99 Loughborough Students Midlands 4 East (North) champions: 2001–02 Old Elthamians Kent 2 champions: 2002–03 Sale<span style="white-space:pre">     </span>South Lancs/Cheshire 4 champions: 2003–04 So why have ambition? As I've said to you before you aren't the sharpest tool. That lot didn't have ambition they had cash and lots of it. Students also had a significant change in cirmcunstance. Remember Mounts Bay? Well imagine Huckleberryermouth coming into cash. They still wouldn't have any better players to choose from I don't know about the sharpest tool but from the way you behave you just appear to be a tool.

Well done Mr Evans. Appear in the middle of a discussion which has nothing to do with you or Rosslyn Park and you get offensive to people. Mmmmm I wonder who the tool is?

Raider999 wrote: This whole subject is getting boring. Obviously, others think so because they have resulted to abusing each other.

It matters a lot to us lads up North. If you are bored then don't read it.

red rose lad wrote: Camquin wrote: I agree no club can make it from the lower leagues to National 1 except:   Ampthill Midlands 3 East (South) champions: 2006–07 Bishop Stortford London Division 2 North champions: 2002–03 Caldy Euromanx South Lancs/Cheshire 1 champions: 2002–03  Cambridge London Division Two North playoff winners  2003-4 Chinnor South West Division 2 East champions: 2000–01 Cinderford South  West Division 2 West champions 1998–99 DMP North East 1 champions: 1998–99 Loughborough Students Midlands 4 East (North) champions: 2001–02 Old Elthamians Kent 2 champions: 2002–03 Sale<span style="white-space:pre">     </span>South Lancs/Cheshire 4 champions: 2003–04 So why have ambition?   with money, not on coming through the clubs junior ranks, and by  the way Sale did not have a junior section selling of the land what the owned as made them succesful

I am sure there are many more qualified here to post about Sale FC...but it was always my understanding that they have had considerable assets for years but chose to remain as an amateur club until the relatively recent shift in direction.

This is the professional era and if a club is lucky enough to find itself in money...through whatever (legal) means then they should not be prevented from seeking to better their standing. İt is down to the members/directors of that club to ensure the money is used in a wise and sustainable way.

The clubs that have no interest in that side of the game have come up with their own local solution (Lancashire Leagues) and despite my initial reservations I think for those clubs that embrace it, it is a great solution.

I still share a few misgivings about Cumbrian clubs being cut adrift but hopefully an improved solution can be found for 2 seasons time

red rose lad wrote: with money, not on coming through the clubs junior ranks, and by  the way Sale did not have a junior section selling of the land what the owned as made them succesful

HM don't be coy. Think you are referring to a lay-by at the side of the M6 near Wigan. They are still in the RFU Leagues so maybe they have bigger plans?

I believe the phrase "A lay by on the M6" is copyright of Will Carling.

Might be throwing money but trying to convert league players will only get so far.

It was 1973/74
Lay-by at side of M6 25 - Harlequins 7
The Lay-by went on to beat Northampton 19-9 before losing 12-3 to London Scottish in the semis
Thought it sounded like a Brian Moore quote but he was only 13 at the time? Any other suggestions?

No I'm fairly certain it WAS a player and an England international

Thatbloke wrote: I'm like a dog with a bone now! Starmer-Smith is a real possibility and also Marcus Rose who were both playing for Quins & England in 73