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I must admit I was looking forward to Quins playing Nick Easter's Chinnor.
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I wonder if the final will be played at the Allianz Stadium.



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It is not allowed to play contracted players to play at that level!!
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Originally posted by SoulStew SoulStew wrote:

It is not allowed to play contracted players to play at that level!!

I hope so. Chinnor are a good bunch so hopefully nothing to worry about.
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Mail from Cambridge Chair to members today suggests that the cup format is not final.
I suspect there are two clubs voting against it.
So I would not book travel you cannot cancel.
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Chinnor confirmed their non-participation in the Prem Cup on social media yesterday...
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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

Mail from Cambridge Chair to members today suggests that the cup format is not final.
I suspect there are two clubs voting against it.
So I would not book travel you cannot cancel.

Perhaps the Prem/Champ clubs that do play could pay compensation to Cam/Chin for lost income - gate, bar, social, raffle etc Censored

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So it was supposedly all being finalised/approved at the Champ clubs AGM on Tuesday.
Anyone know what happened?
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Originally posted by FHLH FHLH wrote:

Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

Mail from Cambridge Chair to members today suggests that the cup format is not final.
I suspect there are two clubs voting against it.
So I would not book travel you cannot cancel.

Perhaps the Prem/Champ clubs that do play could pay compensation to Cam/Chin for lost income - gate, bar, social, raffle etc Censored

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I think leaving out Chinnor and Cambridge is grossly unfair in both clubs.

Would be interesting to see a bar on Loans or Dual Reg players introduced so a club can only field a full 23 of their own - not sure the two excluded clubs would proved to be the weakest with an even playing field.
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Originally posted by Monkey Magic Monkey Magic wrote:


Would be interesting to see a bar on Loans or Dual Reg players introduced so a club can only field a full 23 of their own - not sure the two excluded clubs would proved to be the weakest with an even playing field.

Quite.
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Originally posted by Dalesman Dalesman wrote:

So it was supposedly all being finalised/approved at the Champ clubs AGM on Tuesday.
Anyone know what happened?

The pre-season circular two days ago from the Cambridge chairman said it was yet to be finalised. The Chinnor post on X says both clubs are out
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I wonder what (if any) effort was made to find two more sides (e.g. Cardiff & Scarlets?) to round the competition out to 24 clubs?

Presuming that was not possible, I'm a bit surprised they didn't get it all sorted in time for a preliminary round between last year's bottom 3 plus Chinnor so that at least everyone has the chance to qualify for it.

the format at least is a proven winner, so it gives the competition the best chance of success and thriving in the longer term, which has to be the priority. Bad formats kill competitions, even good ones like Super Rugby & the European Cup get killed with rubbish formats. 
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The Champ clubs appear to have been quite tightly together in recent negotiations with RFU/PRC over promotion, minimum standards etc, so it would surprise me if 10 clubs had just turned round to the other 2, shrugged and said 'sorry chaps nothing we can do' without a real battle and insistence on compensation etc
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Originally posted by FHLH FHLH wrote:

[QUOTE=cheshire exile]When Northampton Saints spent their season in the Championship their “support team” took one look at the Pirates’ away changing room and determined that their squad would instead get changed in their hotel before being bussed to the ground.

I hope they used their hotel to shower & change  after the game too?
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I think one issue is the fact that there is only 10 Premiership clubs so the 20 team format works 5 pools of 4 playing home and away with 2 Premier clubs in each group with the Championship clubs getting 2 home games against Premiership sides. I am not sure how a 22 or 24 team competition would work splitting 10 Prem clubs across the bigger pools.  
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Originally posted by workerbee workerbee wrote:

I think one issue is the fact that there is only 10 Premiership clubs so the 20 team format works 5 pools of 4 playing home and away with 2 Premier clubs in each group with the Championship clubs getting 2 home games against Premiership sides. I am not sure how a 22 or 24 team competition would work splitting 10 Prem clubs across the bigger pools.  

They managed to come up with a format for 22 teams last season, why not this. I realise the teams played 5 games last season (those which didn’t go bust) & there are 6 weekends allocated for pool games this time out, but could worked something out I’m sure - where there’s a will…
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Drop 2 Prem  clubs instead? LOLWink
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This may be a bit on the blind side. How much would it cost for Cambridge & Chinnor to play these games and how much do they get out of the pot, maybe they save money to not get thumped each week as happened to Cambridge last year
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Originally posted by Rabbie Burns Rabbie Burns wrote:

This may be a bit on the blind side. How much would it cost for Cambridge & Chinnor to play these games and how much do they get out of the pot, maybe they save money to not get thumped each week as happened to Cambridge last year
I would hope/expect Cambridge are a bit more competitive now.
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