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Thunderbird 
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Eddie , far better put than I ever could.
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Camquin
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Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 14:12 |
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I believe you do get invited to the odd rugby match - but that may be of less interest to those with more travel. I know the Eastern Counties Secretary took advantage of the RFU hospitality for the Scotland game last season - of course being a good Scot he went in his kilt and full regalia.
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Clive Norling
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Camp Freddie, it is few years back but I stood against John Dance, and Geraint Ashton Jones (Royal Navy) e-mailed me at the time your "perks" as a CB representative, whilst I accept time has moved on, even if cut by 25% they would still be very attractive ..... |
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Big Eddie
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Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 15:07 |
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I haven't read Brian Moore's article which apparently supports the proposed funding cuts but I have not heard any other arguments in favour of the RFU's position.
What I just cannot understand is how the RFU can ever justify a policy or decisions which adversely affects more than 99% of their constituents. How is it possible? It happens in North Korea and in despotic dictatorships but in democratic countries does it ever happen? The senior management of the RFU appear to have forgotten who they represent. They should represnt 2,000+ clubs fairly ........not just the elite game. That they are able to get away with this and believe that they somehow have right on their side shows just how undemocratic and un representative the RFU has become.
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Am I the only one who finds the silence coming out of the premiership clubs depressing for the future of the professional game? There are a number of clubs who have developed a good working
relationship on a playing level through D/R with clubs in the
premiership but clearly that appears to be not the case at boardroom
level. If these clubs are genuinely concerned for the future of the
professional game it would go along way towards reversing this terrible
decision if they came out in support of the championship. Their silence demonstrates to me that they are complicit with the RFU in this decision and are happy for them to be seen publicly as the bad guys. If this is the case then it is very worrying that the so called governing body of the sport is allowing itself to be used in this manner to effectively 'ring fence' the premiership. |
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Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 16:31 |
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Anyone in a position to explain where the Saracens fine money goes? That would give the Championship some breathing space to plan.
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Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 16:38 |
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Was it a PL fine or a RFU fine? Who set the wage cap? |
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Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 17:04 |
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Already been divided amongst the other prem clubs AIUI. Exeter, to their credit, put their share straight into their community foundation.
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billesleyexile
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PRL - hence the very quick share out amongst PRL...
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Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 17:05 |
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I think RFU funding should be aimed at broadening the player pathway and encouraging participation and a professional player pathway outside London and SE. Bit like Boris's levelling up. Use the money to support successful Championship/N1 clubs outside L&SE - Pirates, Coventry, Nottingham, Darlington, Plymouth. Give those clubs the funding, supporting pro rugby in the regions and based on their developing a full offer academy in their patch.
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Laudable, but how do you define "successful Championship/N1 clubs outside London and SE" That sounds like the bun fight to end all bun fights - "free money, but someone's deciding who gets it and why".... |
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Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 17:20 |
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Could somebody who understands these things please answer this.
Who makes these crass decisions? Who put them in place to do so? How can we remove them or force them to change their decision? Those questions are the basis of democracy.
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I think I just did define them perhaps add Moseley too. These are the only clubs. No one thinks Yorkshire C is successful and Rotherham and Hull are about to be relegated. RFU just choose those 6 clubs, ensure that a proper acadamy structure is set up and check it is preforming regularly then put the £500/£600k pa that is needed to support a professional club in as well and let them fly. IMO there is nothing wrong with the RFU picking regional champions if it is based on merit and sustainability - which clearly was not the case with YC this year. |
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Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 17:39 |
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Dividing the fines amongst other Premiership clubs sounds very incestuous. If the fine is for misconduct, surely it ought to be distributed at large for the good of the game. Sorry, I forgot, we're dealing with a cartel here.
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Don’t get this. So you want to take money away from a club like Cornish Pirates who are and have been doing an incredible job in the promotion and development of grass roots rugby in Cornwall and give it clubs that may have similar aspirations but are in the lower branches of the tree? Just seems as though you are cutting off the legs of one club to give them to another. As mentioned earlier, laudable sentiment, but I couldn’t see it working practically. |
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Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 18:02 |
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Funding of clubs outside London/SE is always going to be difficult. Correct me if I'm wrong but do clubs in the Nat 1 get £13,000 from the RFU? Clubs such as DMP, Hull Rotherham spend quite a considerable sum of money on hotels whilst the London and SE clubs have most of their games within a short distance. So it seems the SE/ London clubs with rich sponsors are always going to be a lot better off.
Over recent years is is quite obvious that Rugby Union is fast becoming a southern game whilst northern clubs, and there will be southern clubs such as Ampthill, that have to work extremely hard to make ends meet. A very difficult thing to achieve, means testing!!! which makes it very unlikely that the RFU could get it right!!!
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Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 18:57 |
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I included Pirates as one of the regional clubs to be supported!
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What about Jersey then? We have an academy fast approaching 700. We have a good record of players moving on to the likes of Hartpury and Loughborough with rugby scholarships plus a growing record of being a stepping stone for players to move to the PL. Travel is extremely expensive and our age groups need game time against uk sides. Why shouldn’t we be included?
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Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 19:10 |
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News to Roth and Mose fans that one - don't think there's anyone in B13 breathing a sigh of relief... I sort of get what you mean though. Just can't see how someone does it objectively, as per Brizzer.
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Interesting that Doncaster are not included in the “regional clubs” to be supported given their current position in the Championship. Can I suggest that everyone should watch the England v Ireland Red Roses match on Sky at 12.45 on Sunday. The game is being played at Castle Park, the home of Doncaster Knights, to see what one Championship club has achieved with generous sponsors and hardworking supporters, diligent applications to funding sources available to all clubs in the country and an outstanding professional, amateur, community rugby and ladies rugby set up.
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