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Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

Walked away from millions in debt, and yet didn't have to start again at the bottom, and as you can tell still so much bad feeling for them.

My bad feeling is for people who still get the facts wrong. The club did not go into administration nor bust.

A lying toad of a investor didn't have the means. This man told the board and a preseason fans' meeting he was putting in his usual several £100ks, as he had done for a few years. His business went bust 6 weeks later. 

Many had heard the rumours his business was in deep trouble. Many doubted he'd lie through his teeth in front of so many people.

That meant the assembled, push for promotion, expensive squad could not be maintained. Your Worcesters etc would've carried on regardless. Yorkshire Carnegie didn't. Like most normal people and I would have done if we had a massive income cut, we cut our cloth accordingly, struggled for a while but now, things are looking a bit brighter.


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Originally posted by Donnyknightfan Donnyknightfan wrote:

Originally posted by Se7en Se7en wrote:

Originally posted by Connor Macleod Connor Macleod wrote:

Originally posted by Donnyknightfan Donnyknightfan wrote:

Leeds get promotion from Nat2N and it gets mentioned on the Yorkshire Post Sports’ Twitter page but Donny beating the 2nd placed team in the Championship didn’t happen in their world. It doesn’t take me long when reading the Leeds love-in in recent days from a lot of the local regional press to remember why it was always extremely satisfying to stick one on them when they were in the Championship - which we did a number of times. 

It's mainly due to the fact that most people from Leeds can read so it's not wasted print 👍, 

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I'm not sure about how literacy levels vary across Yorkshire, but I would say it's more likely the fact that Leeds Tykes have actually achieved something meaningful at the weekend by winning promotion back up to National 1. As opposed to Doncaster beating an (admittedly very good) semi-pro side in a (currently) ringfenced league without any jeopardy or consequence in terms of promotion/relegation.

Just my thoughts of course but I'm not sure the animosity is justified. Well done to Leeds.

With all due respect, Leeds should have walked N2N this season - anything else would have been dismal failure. They’ve won the league, but let’s see how they do in ND1. If they can do anything similar to what Rotherham have done this year then that would be a terrific feat. I take your point about Donny, but let’s remember that Leeds are still well behind us in terms of Yorkshire rugby at the moment. I think Donny beating the (then) second placed team in the Championship deserved more credit because as well as Leeds have done this season, it’s still at level 4 of the pyramid. 

Leeds deservedly won promotion this year, but let’s not pretend that it was some unforeseen feat, it was pretty much nailed-on that they’d go up this year in my opinion. Next year for the Tykes will be interesting to see how they adapt to the higher level. 

With all due respect, you've got that dinosaur Geech consulting at Doncaster. He's a lot to answer for, for his 'franchise' vision. Just wait til he starts poking his nose into the business side, rather than the playing side... it'll happen.

As for nailed on Tykes promotion - ever watched any Nat2 rugby? It's hard - any team can win on any day and the Tykes have had to dig themselves out of several holes this season to get some of their wins. It's been grit and determination that's got them promoted.
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I certainly think the Yorkshire Carnegie thing was a major blunder and kick in the teeth for numerous clubs at the time.
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Originally posted by Rothman2 Rothman2 wrote:

Just wanted to congratulate Pete Seabourne and his Leeds Tykes team on winning National 2 North this season and look forward to renewing rivalries again next season. 👏👏👏👏👏🍾🍷🍺



Thank you  - the thread went downhill after this post didn't it..... I too look forward to renewing rivalries. You've had a fantastic season - at one point I thought even if we did reach Nat 1 you'd have already left it..... at least 1 local fixture next year.

As for the rest "not a true club" etc. I didn't realise there were laws on who and what rugby clubs are allowed to be. Tell that to the lads who put their bodies on the line to achieve promotion last saturday and to the coaches (one of whom has been at the club from a very young age) - oh and for the record there aren't 8 of them. Playing at West Park has benefits for both clubs and is a pragmatic solution all round.

I don't think anyone at Leeds thought we "should have walked the league this season" and I'd suggest that it's disrespectful to the other clubs involved to say that. Leeds have had some extremely tough matches. It's clear from the battle at the bottom just how tough and close this league actually is. 

The professional game in the leagues above us is an unholy mess. The National Leagues offer something different. One of the best things about rugby is leaving the rivalry on the pitch. Some of the bitter jibes on this thread make a mockery of that
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I don't think this thread went downhill at all.
What is wrong with posting some comments and views and, if necessary, be corrected by those in the know. That's what a forum is for.

Leeds will need to recruit to be competitive in Nat 1. and that will be a problem, unless Beckett have some good prospects. I say this because since Covid, at National League level, we have seen that players are not as ready to move as they used to be. 
I suppose the size of the cheque book will help with any decision to move but I hope they don't fill the squad with 'journeymen' looking for a last pay day. Retention will also be an issue as I have already heard one or two current Leeds players are in the market as they don't relish the hours on the road that Nat 1 brings.
Add to this the RFU's refusal to assist with travel expenses and you have enough problems before setting foot on the field. Good luck!



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Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

I don't think this thread went downhill at all.
What is wrong with posting some comments and views and, if necessary, be corrected by those in the know. That's what a forum is for.

Leeds will need to recruit to be competitive in Nat 1. and that will be a problem, unless Beckett have some good prospects. I say this because since Covid, at National League level, we have seen that players are not as ready to move as they used to be. 
I suppose the size of the cheque book will help with any decision to move but I hope they don't fill the squad with 'journeymen' looking for a last pay day. Retention will also be an issue as I have already heard one or two current Leeds players are in the market as they don't relish the hours on the road that Nat 1 brings.
Add to this the RFU's refusal to assist with travel expenses and you have enough problems before setting foot on the field. Good luck!


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Despite some of the views I’ve expressed about Leeds, I hope they do well in ND1 next year. Another Northern team in the league is a good thing for a geographical spread that tilts evermore southerly. 

I’d be interested to know what is the general feeling at Roth with regards to missing out on promotion?. Is there disappointment there that after such a great season, they just ran out of steam towards the end. Or, have Titans now found their natural level and being a Championship club again is beyond their financial means at the moment?. 
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And where will Leeds recruit from?
We know it won't be from the Junior and Mini section, or from the 2nd team, no it will be from local clubs who have nurtured players since they were kids. Will they come for the pleasure of spending all weekend on a bus? Of course not.

It's an insult to all those volunteers that put in so much hard work at rugby clubs.

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Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

And where will Leeds recruit from?
We know it won't be from the Junior and Mini section, or from the 2nd team, no it will be from local clubs who have nurtured players since they were kids. Will they come for the pleasure of spending all weekend on a bus? Of course not.

It's an insult to all those volunteers that put in so much hard work at rugby clubs.
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Think your letting your bitterness get the better of you, ... again!!!

Sometimes clubs offer better facilities or pathways, not always financial as said we are not the highest payers in the league but offer location and facilities second to none 

Prime example last season we lost Jon Okafor to Roth outstanding player and was the difference in both games last season was even man of the match in the game we won, I'm guessing he went for financial and better opportunities and good luck to him and Roth 

Players careers are short let them go where they want, I have yet to see a player especially at part time level being forced to play at a club they don't want to be at, 

Wish we had financial clout but sadly that's a way off yet, 


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Originally posted by Donnyknightfan Donnyknightfan wrote:

Despite some of the views I’ve expressed about Leeds, I hope they do well in ND1 next year. Another Northern team in the league is a good thing for a geographical spread that tilts evermore southerly. 

I’d be interested to know what is the general feeling at Roth with regards to missing out on promotion?. Is there disappointment there that after such a great season, they just ran out of steam towards the end. Or, have Titans now found their natural level and being a Championship club again is beyond their financial means at the moment?. 

We never really thought about promotion. Injuries have bitten hard and that last five or six game run in would have been brutal with a fully fit squad. 
I think it has been a sensational season really. Anyone is capable of beating anyone on their day. 
Regarding the Championship, maybe just maybe, next season might just be the season where it gets back to a proper structure as it has been treated abysmally.

With 14 clubs though, the Championship ought to have two relegated and two promoted into it, but usurping clubs into it, rather than earning it must be stopped and the rules clearly defined before the start of the season, not changing it on a whim.

As for us, I think the Championship is attainable but National 1 as it stands at the minute, is for me the best and most competitive league in the whole structure. Of course the jeopardy of relegation and the opportunity of promotion keeps that intensity, rather than having stale leagues without it. 

As far as the Premiership goes, no interest whatsoever. 






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Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

I don't think this thread went downhill at all.
What is wrong with posting some comments and views and, if necessary, be corrected by those in the know. That's what a forum is for.

Leeds will need to recruit to be competitive in Nat 1. and that will be a problem, unless Beckett have some good prospects. I say this because since Covid, at National League level, we have seen that players are not as ready to move as they used to be. 
I suppose the size of the cheque book will help with any decision to move but I hope they don't fill the squad with 'journeymen' looking for a last pay day. Retention will also be an issue as I have already heard one or two current Leeds players are in the market as they don't relish the hours on the road that Nat 1 brings.
Add to this the RFU's refusal to assist with travel expenses and you have enough problems before setting foot on the field. Good luck!


A very well thought out post - yes no doubt we will need to recruit and some players will not have the desire to board a bus at 4pm on Friday travel to Plymouth for a game and then get back in the early hours of Sunday morning. They will enjoy the excellent camaraderie you get in National 2 North, play rugby to a very good level and be home with the family for the evening.

I don't actually think the management will go for the journeyman approach, I believe they will only get players that will fit in culture wise - several times this year the team spirit has got them through some very tough games, that will become key next year. I wouldn't be surprised that if a player is too concerned over the cheque book rather than playing at a higher level, with a decent set up (courtesy of a tie up with Leeds Beckett Uni - a recent article on the web site) then he will be thanked for his interest and people move on. 

Also as mentioned on previous posts, there is no benefactor promising £'000s so all spend is closely monitored and no spend will be done over what we have in the bank.

Don't get me started on the RFU...
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Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

And where will Leeds recruit from?
We know it won't be from the Junior and Mini section, or from the 2nd team, no it will be from local clubs who have nurtured players since they were kids. Will they come for the pleasure of spending all weekend on a bus? Of course not.

It's an insult to all those volunteers that put in so much hard work at rugby clubs.

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Another yawn post I am afraid! There are several clubs throughout the leagues that will be like that, but never mind.

I think more to the point, it would suggest that you are saying that players shouldn't progress through the leagues if the opportunity arises to play at a higher level - what a shame that we wouldn't have seen Danny Care in an England shirt as he would still be playing at West Park. It has gone on for years this, a player playing in the Yorkshire leagues gets approached from a team in the Northern Leagues and then gets approached by a team in the national leagues - why wouldn't you wish them all the best in the world to play at a higher level and if it comes with added financial compensation then so be it. As mentioned in my previous post, I suspect if money is a players sole motivation then they will not be seen in a Leeds Tykes kit - yes it may mean they are more willing to spend a lot more time on the coach on a weekend, but some may see it as progression
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Congratulations to Leeds Tykes. Great to have somewhere new to visit.
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Originally posted by Connor Macleod Connor Macleod wrote:

Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

And where will Leeds recruit from?
We know it won't be from the Junior and Mini section, or from the 2nd team, no it will be from local clubs who have nurtured players since they were kids. Will they come for the pleasure of spending all weekend on a bus? Of course not.

It's an insult to all those volunteers that put in so much hard work at rugby clubs.
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Think your letting your bitterness get the better of you, ... again!!!

Sometimes clubs offer better facilities or pathways, not always financial as said we are not the highest payers in the league but offer location and facilities second to none 

Prime example last season we lost Jon Okafor to Roth outstanding player and was the difference in both games last season was even man of the match in the game we won, I'm guessing he went for financial and better opportunities and good luck to him and Roth 

Players careers are short let them go where they want, I have yet to see a player especially at part time level being forced to play at a club they don't want to be at, 

Wish we had financial clout but sadly that's a way off yet, 

With all due respect, you offer 'West Parks' facilities, which you rent and which West Park remain in control of, hence your occasional need for a 16:00 kick off when West Park are at home.
And, "facilities 2nd to none" - debatable.
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My apologies to the Opinion Police. I sincerely apologise for having one.

With regards to the claim that all creditors had been paid, was it not that the creditors agreed to 15p in the £ as part of a CVA?  Somewhere, a lot of people lost a lot of money.   Where do Leeds get there money from? It can't be from clubhouse revenue, admission fees or membership fees?  Where is the sustainability? where is the development of the sport, where is the inclusivity?

I'm not bitter, I just have no time for what I don't consider "proper" rugby clubs.   I will be a happy lad if I don't have to visit Leeds Tykes at West Park Leeds RUFC or Hull RUFC.   I don't care what anyone says, visiting paces like that are just not the same.  My loathing of visiting Hartpury and Luffbra Stooodents is even worse. It is just a very poor experience; incomparable to a visit to Tynedale, Ionians, Sheffield, Fylde, Chester, Otley, Preston etc etc
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Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

My apologies to the Opinion Police. I sincerely apologise for having one.

With regards to the claim that all creditors had been paid, was it not that the creditors agreed to 15p in the £ as part of a CVA?  Somewhere, a lot of people lost a lot of money.   Where do Leeds get there money from? It can't be from clubhouse revenue, admission fees or membership fees?  Where is the sustainability? where is the development of the sport, where is the inclusivity?

I'm not bitter, I just have no time for what I don't consider "proper" rugby clubs.   I will be a happy lad if I don't have to visit Leeds Tykes at West Park Leeds RUFC or Hull RUFC.   

Inclusively? Did you not read that we are effectively a club that's only been in place a couple of years? The people who put their money into the club now are building for the future. Watch this space.

As for being happy if you didn't have to visit us, or Hull come to that, it's really simple - don't.


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Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

My apologies to the Opinion Police. I sincerely apologise for having one.

With regards to the claim that all creditors had been paid, was it not that the creditors agreed to 15p in the £ as part of a CVA?  Somewhere, a lot of people lost a lot of money.   Where do Leeds get there money from? It can't be from clubhouse revenue, admission fees or membership fees?  Where is the sustainability? where is the development of the sport, where is the inclusivity?

I'm not bitter, I just have no time for what I don't consider "proper" rugby clubs.   I will be a happy lad if I don't have to visit Leeds Tykes at West Park Leeds RUFC or Hull RUFC.   I don't care what anyone says, visiting paces like that are just not the same.  My loathing of visiting Hartpury and Luffbra Stooodents is even worse. It is just a very poor experience; incomparable to a visit to Tynedale, Ionians, Sheffield, Fylde, Chester, Otley, Preston etc etc

It's always telling when someone starts a paragraph claiming that they aren't this, that or the other, but then go on to demonstrate that that is exactly what they are in the following lines. 

Why visit places that you loathe, and then have a rant about it on a forum? I presume no one forced you to visit Hartpury or Loughborough? Life's too short. Madness.
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Inclusively? Did you not read that we are effectively a club that's only been in place a couple of years? The people who put their money into the club now are building for the future. Watch this space.

As for being happy if you didn't have to visit us, or Hull come to that, it's really simple - don't.
1. It's not a club, it's a team
2. If you've only been a club for a couple of years then how come you started in level 3?
3. I follow a team home and away through thick and thin, when at the matches I contribute to my club
4. It also means I've visited a huge variety of clubs and thus can form an opinion. You may not agree with my opinions, but you're more than welcome to disagree vociferously.
5. Anyone else enjoy a visit to souless places, some of which I've mentioned?

 


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