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RumoursAreTrueRight? ![]() Mini and Juniors ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Apr 2023 Location: Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 4 |
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Very well said and spot on
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RumoursAreTrueRight? ![]() Mini and Juniors ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Apr 2023 Location: Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 4 |
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My bad feeling is for people who still get the facts wrong. The club did not go into administration nor bust. A lying toad of a investor didn't have the means. This man told the board and a preseason fans' meeting he was putting in his usual several £100ks, as he had done for a few years. His business went bust 6 weeks later. Many had heard the rumours his business was in deep trouble. Many doubted he'd lie through his teeth in front of so many people. That meant the assembled, push for promotion, expensive squad could not be maintained. Your Worcesters etc would've carried on regardless. Yorkshire Carnegie didn't. Like most normal people and I would have done if we had a massive income cut, we cut our cloth accordingly, struggled for a while but now, things are looking a bit brighter. |
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RumoursAreTrueRight? ![]() Mini and Juniors ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Apr 2023 Location: Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 4 |
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With all due respect, you've got that dinosaur Geech consulting at Doncaster. He's a lot to answer for, for his 'franchise' vision. Just wait til he starts poking his nose into the business side, rather than the playing side... it'll happen. As for nailed on Tykes promotion - ever watched any Nat2 rugby? It's hard - any team can win on any day and the Tykes have had to dig themselves out of several holes this season to get some of their wins. It's been grit and determination that's got them promoted.
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Rothman2 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Rotherham Joined: 20 Jan 2010 Location: Derby Status: Offline Points: 12557 |
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I certainly think the Yorkshire Carnegie thing was a major blunder and kick in the teeth for numerous clubs at the time.
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Observingfromafar ![]() Mini and Juniors ![]() Joined: 08 Apr 2025 Location: Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Thank you - the thread went downhill after this post didn't it..... I too look forward to renewing rivalries. You've had a fantastic season - at one point I thought even if we did reach Nat 1 you'd have already left it..... at least 1 local fixture next year. As for the rest "not a true club" etc. I didn't realise there were laws on who and what rugby clubs are allowed to be. Tell that to the lads who put their bodies on the line to achieve promotion last saturday and to the coaches (one of whom has been at the club from a very young age) - oh and for the record there aren't 8 of them. Playing at West Park has benefits for both clubs and is a pragmatic solution all round. I don't think anyone at Leeds thought we "should have walked the league this season" and I'd suggest that it's disrespectful to the other clubs involved to say that. Leeds have had some extremely tough matches. It's clear from the battle at the bottom just how tough and close this league actually is. The professional game in the leagues above us is an unholy mess. The National Leagues offer something different. One of the best things about rugby is leaving the rivalry on the pitch. Some of the bitter jibes on this thread make a mockery of that
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Sid James ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Jun 2013 Location: East Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 1680 |
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I don't think this thread went downhill at all.
What is wrong with posting some comments and views and, if necessary, be corrected by those in the know. That's what a forum is for. Leeds will need to recruit to be competitive in Nat 1. and that will be a problem, unless Beckett have some good prospects. I say this because since Covid, at National League level, we have seen that players are not as ready to move as they used to be. I suppose the size of the cheque book will help with any decision to move but I hope they don't fill the squad with 'journeymen' looking for a last pay day. Retention will also be an issue as I have already heard one or two current Leeds players are in the market as they don't relish the hours on the road that Nat 1 brings. Add to this the RFU's refusal to assist with travel expenses and you have enough problems before setting foot on the field. Good luck! Edited by Sid James - 09 Apr 2025 at 08:27 |
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Se7en ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 18 Apr 2023 Location: Not given Status: Offline Points: 666 |
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Donnyknightfan ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 28 Feb 2021 Location: Doncaster Status: Offline Points: 687 |
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Despite some of the views I’ve expressed about Leeds, I hope they do well in ND1 next year. Another Northern team in the league is a good thing for a geographical spread that tilts evermore southerly.
I’d be interested to know what is the general feeling at Roth with regards to missing out on promotion?. Is there disappointment there that after such a great season, they just ran out of steam towards the end. Or, have Titans now found their natural level and being a Championship club again is beyond their financial means at the moment?.
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Donny Knights - best team in Yorkshire
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backrowb ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 07 Nov 2013 Location: Gods own county Status: Offline Points: 1686 |
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And where will Leeds recruit from?
We know it won't be from the Junior and Mini section, or from the 2nd team, no it will be from local clubs who have nurtured players since they were kids. Will they come for the pleasure of spending all weekend on a bus? Of course not. It's an insult to all those volunteers that put in so much hard work at rugby clubs. Leeds wil
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Connor Macleod ![]() Academy player ![]() Joined: 02 Oct 2023 Location: The glens Status: Offline Points: 13 |
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Think your letting your bitterness get the better of you, ... again!!! Sometimes clubs offer better facilities or pathways, not always financial as said we are not the highest payers in the league but offer location and facilities second to none Prime example last season we lost Jon Okafor to Roth outstanding player and was the difference in both games last season was even man of the match in the game we won, I'm guessing he went for financial and better opportunities and good luck to him and Roth Players careers are short let them go where they want, I have yet to see a player especially at part time level being forced to play at a club they don't want to be at, Wish we had financial clout but sadly that's a way off yet, Edited by Connor Macleod - 09 Apr 2025 at 11:42 |
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Rothman2 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Rotherham Joined: 20 Jan 2010 Location: Derby Status: Offline Points: 12557 |
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We never really thought about promotion. Injuries have bitten hard and that last five or six game run in would have been brutal with a fully fit squad. I think it has been a sensational season really. Anyone is capable of beating anyone on their day. Regarding the Championship, maybe just maybe, next season might just be the season where it gets back to a proper structure as it has been treated abysmally. With 14 clubs though, the Championship ought to have two relegated and two promoted into it, but usurping clubs into it, rather than earning it must be stopped and the rules clearly defined before the start of the season, not changing it on a whim. As for us, I think the Championship is attainable but National 1 as it stands at the minute, is for me the best and most competitive league in the whole structure. Of course the jeopardy of relegation and the opportunity of promotion keeps that intensity, rather than having stale leagues without it. As far as the Premiership goes, no interest whatsoever. Edited by Rothman2 - 09 Apr 2025 at 10:16 |
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Wp_leeds ![]() Mini and Juniors ![]() Joined: 08 Apr 2025 Location: Leeds Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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A very well thought out post - yes no doubt we will need to recruit and some players will not have the desire to board a bus at 4pm on Friday travel to Plymouth for a game and then get back in the early hours of Sunday morning. They will enjoy the excellent camaraderie you get in National 2 North, play rugby to a very good level and be home with the family for the evening. I don't actually think the management will go for the journeyman approach, I believe they will only get players that will fit in culture wise - several times this year the team spirit has got them through some very tough games, that will become key next year. I wouldn't be surprised that if a player is too concerned over the cheque book rather than playing at a higher level, with a decent set up (courtesy of a tie up with Leeds Beckett Uni - a recent article on the web site) then he will be thanked for his interest and people move on. Also as mentioned on previous posts, there is no benefactor promising £'000s so all spend is closely monitored and no spend will be done over what we have in the bank. Don't get me started on the RFU...
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Wp_leeds ![]() Mini and Juniors ![]() Joined: 08 Apr 2025 Location: Leeds Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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Another yawn post I am afraid! There are several clubs throughout the leagues that will be like that, but never mind. I think more to the point, it would suggest that you are saying that players shouldn't progress through the leagues if the opportunity arises to play at a higher level - what a shame that we wouldn't have seen Danny Care in an England shirt as he would still be playing at West Park. It has gone on for years this, a player playing in the Yorkshire leagues gets approached from a team in the Northern Leagues and then gets approached by a team in the national leagues - why wouldn't you wish them all the best in the world to play at a higher level and if it comes with added financial compensation then so be it. As mentioned in my previous post, I suspect if money is a players sole motivation then they will not be seen in a Leeds Tykes kit - yes it may mean they are more willing to spend a lot more time on the coach on a weekend, but some may see it as progression
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ParkBench ![]() British and Irish Lion ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Oct 2013 Location: Richmond Status: Offline Points: 158 |
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Congratulations to Leeds Tykes. Great to have somewhere new to visit.
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Sid James ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Jun 2013 Location: East Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 1680 |
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With all due respect, you offer 'West Parks' facilities, which you rent and which West Park remain in control of, hence your occasional need for a 16:00 kick off when West Park are at home. And, "facilities 2nd to none" - debatable.
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All Knwoing All Seeing
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backrowb ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 07 Nov 2013 Location: Gods own county Status: Offline Points: 1686 |
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My apologies to the Opinion Police. I sincerely apologise for having one.
With regards to the claim that all creditors had been paid, was it not that the creditors agreed to 15p in the £ as part of a CVA? Somewhere, a lot of people lost a lot of money. Where do Leeds get there money from? It can't be from clubhouse revenue, admission fees or membership fees? Where is the sustainability? where is the development of the sport, where is the inclusivity? I'm not bitter, I just have no time for what I don't consider "proper" rugby clubs. I will be a happy lad if I don't have to visit Leeds Tykes at West Park Leeds RUFC or Hull RUFC. I don't care what anyone says, visiting paces like that are just not the same. My loathing of visiting Hartpury and Luffbra Stooodents is even worse. It is just a very poor experience; incomparable to a visit to Tynedale, Ionians, Sheffield, Fylde, Chester, Otley, Preston etc etc
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RumoursAreTrueRight? ![]() Mini and Juniors ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Apr 2023 Location: Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 4 |
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Inclusively? Did you not read that we are effectively a club that's only been in place a couple of years? The people who put their money into the club now are building for the future. Watch this space. As for being happy if you didn't have to visit us, or Hull come to that, it's really simple - don't.
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Se7en ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 18 Apr 2023 Location: Not given Status: Offline Points: 666 |
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It's always telling when someone starts a paragraph claiming that they aren't this, that or the other, but then go on to demonstrate that that is exactly what they are in the following lines. Why visit places that you loathe, and then have a rant about it on a forum? I presume no one forced you to visit Hartpury or Loughborough? Life's too short. Madness.
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backrowb ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 07 Nov 2013 Location: Gods own county Status: Offline Points: 1686 |
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1. It's not a club, it's a team 2. If you've only been a club for a couple of years then how come you started in level 3? 3. I follow a team home and away through thick and thin, when at the matches I contribute to my club 4. It also means I've visited a huge variety of clubs and thus can form an opinion. You may not agree with my opinions, but you're more than welcome to disagree vociferously. 5. Anyone else enjoy a visit to souless places, some of which I've mentioned? |
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rugbychris ![]() British and Irish Lion ![]() Joined: 02 May 2019 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 205 |
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